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Old 11-05-2011, 08:23 PM   #1
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ANy one using this set-up with front and rear 2" receiver hitches?....Also, if so; have you hardwired the 12volt to the rear, OR due you use cables with clamps?, OR?????

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Old 11-05-2011, 08:37 PM   #2
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It is Jimbox you seek, find him you will . . .



Seriously, there's a member here named Jimbox who's done this to great success for a long time. Nice set up.

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Old 11-05-2011, 08:40 PM   #3
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It's the set up I'll use - and will be looking to JIMBOX when the time comes 4 sure! He spent the day on the road, but will chime in here soon I'd wager...
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:06 PM   #4
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I'm considering his set up as well. Maybe he'll just ship it up here for some Beta testing
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Heh Heh, aw shucks guys, everybodys got one of these

The jeep, has the rear 2" hitch, either from Mopar or after mkt and my trailer has a 2" hitch on the tongue and rear bumper, so

I have two mobile winch's---not heavy WARN 9K ones 90 lbs /w cradle, I've got the WARN light 3000 lb/w cradle and an ATV 2000lb'er I keep in the trailer, the trouble is--

My setup is for light duty recovery and self mover, by using a "snatch block" you can double the winch pull, but

You need winch training/video/recovery class--it can be dangerous

I don't hard wire any ofit, because it has to carry a LOTTA current and unforseen shorts are caused by to many things resulting in "FIRE"--China Meltdown---so

I use HD cables and HD Battery clamps--the trailer has a group 34 12vdc batt/ jeep has its battery and My spare BLUE top OPTIMA GEL battery, so I have enough 12 volters

There are after mkt frame to frame FRONT hitch's, but then you loose a lotta front end clearance, so I got the Olympic "rock" front bumper--I think series 530, but you'll have to lookup in 4wdparts/ Quadratec/JCW/Northridge and get the part#/price now--mine over 2½ years old-$265 bucks





Remember this kinda setup is notta heavy duty full recovery winch arrangement, so bear that in mind--it works for light duty winching ie-off a rock/in a rut/pulling trailer over alien aircraft/Rangers FJ40--!

It works for me and remember the ProCal Module has a setting for increasing your engine idle-while at rest and controlled by the "dimmer" sw., you can usually get it up to 2000 rpm--WHILE STOPPED-It helps keep the battery charging whilest WENCHING ()-

Having a WELL SETUP, hardwired, permanently installed power winch, is the best of the best-just be ready for the cost/maintenance/harness installation, control installation and suspension sag !

Ya gotta do what ya gotta do-

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re: "It helps keep the battery charging whilest WENCHING ".....that's always a good idea in my own experience....

Jimbox; I've got an existing front-mount dual 1" received previous owner installed to pull my JK behind their Class A motor home. Could post some photos tomorrow....I've been considering whether it would be feasible to set up something based on this....twin small square tubes frame mounted directly under the front bumper. They've even got a tow-plug for powering the toad lights....

Will post if you want to see 'em.
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WOW JJ, I don't know much about the applications of 1" receivers, but


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re: "It helps keep the battery charging whilest WENCHING ".....that's always a good idea in my own experience....

Jimbox; I've got an existing front-mount dual 1" received previous owner installed to pull my JK behind their Class A motor home. Could post some photos tomorrow....I've been considering whether it would be feasible to set up something based on this....twin small square tubes frame mounted directly under the front bumper. They've even got a tow-plug for powering the toad lights....

Will post if you want to see 'em.
I can't imagine it being strong enough for any recovery and I don't think you can get recovery gear of any kind except for ATV use !!(thats what my real light winch is for)

The 2" hitch has been accepted for quite a few years as the "NORM" for towing/recovery and supposedly the TOWING limit for the class II is 3500 lbs, thats why they usem on our jeeps-

Class I is 2000 lbs, I would assume lighter welds/struts and thinner sq stock--

An idea would be to go by a UHAUL place and talk to them---they have to adhere to your states laws and usually perform at higher standards--Good luck

Yea show da pics

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Jimbox....any pics of the clamp attachments @ winch end?...planning on using "welding stingers" as cables.
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Just look at my second pic, even with the lighter winch, it has +/- heavy duty terminals and my cables have the ¼" lugs to attach-


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Jimbox....any pics of the clamp attachments @ winch end?...planning on using "welding stingers" as cables.
The welding cables should do great "0"/"00"--even so, you have to warch out for terminal/cable heat, cause that really increases the current draw !

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Just look at my second pic, even with the lighter winch, it has +/- heavy duty terminals and my cables have the ¼" lugs to attach-

The welding cables should do great "0"/"00"--even so, you have to warch out for terminal/cable heat, cause that really increases the current draw !

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I have had a Warn 'multi-mount' with Warn 9000i for years for use on my truck. I now have hard mounted the winch onto the Jeep bumper and have the cradle just sitting in the garage. If anyone wants it gimme a PM and we can work a deal.. It's VERY well made.
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Jimbox, regarding the "light duty" aspect of this set up, this bumper set up basically removed your stock tow hooks, right? So in that sense, you've made it tougher for some body to help you?

Do you suppose bolting some D rings to the bumper (at those bolt holes on the bumper face) would be helpful? Seems to me they would at least be a little less directionally dependent than a tow hitch, though they would still only be attached to the bumper rather than the frame, so I'm not sure what they'd really add . . .

I'm considering this bumper along with your winch set up, but I'm not wild about apparently losing my tow hooks.
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Well, that seems obvious, but


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Jimbox, regarding the "light duty" aspect of this set up, this bumper set up basically removed your stock tow hooks, right? So in that sense, you've made it tougher for some body to help you?

Do you suppose bolting some D rings to the bumper (at those bolt holes on the bumper face) would be helpful? Seems to me they would at least be a little less directionally dependent than a tow hitch, though they would still only be attached to the bumper rather than the frame, so I'm not sure what they'd really add . . .

I'm considering this bumper along with your winch set up, but I'm not wild about apparently losing my tow hooks.
If you attach any "tow hooks", they.ve gotta be attached to the frame ends (4 bolts), just like the stockers-however



I use the Military LUNNETTE ring for both ends and it's center mount/w unidirectional apps--

I'm not really in favor of MOST tow hooks, because they're too many SHARP edges that FRAY/DEGRADE the nylon/poly tow straps and weaken-tearem-

Oh. and by the way--in my pic, the "D" ring is actually 180° out !

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