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Old 02-25-2014, 10:50 AM   #1
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Potholes vs JKU

So I just blew up my ford focus on the highway the other day. Had to buy a new tire but thankfully everything else was ok. The experience got me thinking about my JKU. How would a JKU sport handle a pothole going around 45 mph on a highway? Would 33/12.5r15 duratracs make the experience better then stock wheels?

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I'm glad your OK. That must have been a scary experience.

Obviously it's hard to guess what would happen given that there are so many variables but your JK is larger, has larger tires (makes pot hole relatively smaller) and a lot more wheel travel to absorb the impact than the Focus. So the relative shock to the suspension and steering would be relatively less. However, the JK has a higher CG and in general does not have the inherent stability of the Focus. Depending on the size of the pot hole and your tire pressure the Duractracs have a much better chance of not blowing up but the jarring impact could cause a loss of control at 45MPH.

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I hit a big one yesterday. It didn't feel good but my tire is fine as far as I know
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More suspension travel, more tire mass to allow for impaction, heavier duty tires in general. One would think you'd have less chance for a blowout.
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Old 02-25-2014, 01:05 PM   #5
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Guess I'll drive my JKU during pothole season here in NY. Best case scenario is avoiding the pothole but sometimes they just pop up suddenly.
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yep My jkur is light years ahead of my mustang on these bad NY roads. They are the worse I have seen them in years.

If I still had my mustang I would have had big troubles this year. Make sure you chalk test your tires for best tire pressure. it will make a HUGE difference in how your jeep handles the pot holes. I only had to drop my pressure 2 lbs to get the correct pressure when doing this test. But pot holes that would bounce the jeep almost out of the lane. Now I barely even feel. it really was that noticeable at only 2 lbs.

Good luck maybe we will cross paths on the LIE. Lately it is like a off road park
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So I just blew up my ford focus on the highway the other day. Had to buy a new tire but thankfully everything else was ok. The experience got me thinking about my JKU. How would a JKU sport handle a pothole going around 45 mph on a highway? Would 33/12.5r15 duratracs make the experience better then stock wheels?
My parents live in Queens, and I visited them the other day. Man the plows did a number on NYC roads this year. Driving on the cross bronx is like driving on the moon. I saw 6 cars pulled over with flat tires/broken wheels...not bent, BROKEN. These are china deep potholes. My dad is getting rid of his 2010 Acura RL because he is tired of replacing tires. He went through 3 last year alone, and bent his rim twice. He has had enough. He's getting a grand cherokee now. As for the Wrangler, yes, a set of duratracs in 33" flavor will increase your pothole threshold dramatically...but remember, they are not bulletproof....a big enough hole would still kill it, but it would have to be one hell of a hole.....one that would literally destroy a stock normal sedan. While it doesn't feel good to hit one on a wrangler, it will be MUCH tougher to damage.
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Old 02-25-2014, 04:17 PM   #8
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I'm going to add this to the list of things i don't have to worry about in east texas....

Snow
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China deep potholes...
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I'm going to add this to the list of things i don't have to worry about in east texas....

Snow
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China deep potholes...
I'll add...communists, stupid magazine laws, and no carry permits.

Driving in NYC is like offroading in Moab.
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i fear a pothole activating death wobble. my buddy had a dodge with dw. he had to drive a very certain way on roads to avoid it acting up. with all these potholes their impossible to 100% avoid unless you want to drive into on coming traffic.
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i fear a pothole activating death wobble. my buddy had a dodge with dw. he had to drive a very certain way on roads to avoid it acting up. with all these potholes their impossible to 100% avoid unless you want to drive into on coming traffic.
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I was a lot more afraid of potholes in my Subaru because of the low-profile tires and the stiff suspension.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:45 PM   #13
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I'm in New Jersey and the pot holes are Extremely bad this year.... I just put on nitto trails so I should be ok but I'll still watch out for the china deep pot holes.
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I'm in New Jersey and the pot holes are Extremely bad this year.... I just put on nitto trails so I should be ok but I'll still watch out for the china deep pot holes.
Jersey seems to have gotten bad on side streets...main roads (turnpike, garden state, etc) are still fairly decent. NY on the other hand....OMG. I just don't think the plow drivers gave a crap. Didn't raise plows when they were supposed to, etc. Hell, one of them killed a woman! The traffic in certain areas (ie Belt Pkwy) is insane...people going 4mph crawling over the torn up pavement...they will fix some of the holes just before the next winter rolls around, and we get to do it all over again.
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Jersey seems to have gotten bad on side streets...main roads (turnpike, garden state, etc) are still fairly decent. NY on the other hand....OMG. I just don't think the plow drivers gave a crap. Didn't raise plows when they were supposed to, etc. Hell, one of them killed a woman! The traffic in certain areas (ie Belt Pkwy) is insane...people going 4mph crawling over the torn up pavement...they will fix some of the holes just before the next winter rolls around, and we get to do it all over again.
Just over the bridge in pa is terrible on all roads. I need the tires from the Mars rover to be safe
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Don't forget tire size with wheel size. A 33 inch tire on 18 inch rims is going to be very stiff and rough, not to mention it would pretty much be a run flat wagon wheel.

If you run a 33 tire on 15 inch rims you will have a softer ride just from the design difference.

If you air down a hair the ride improves on rough roads too, less bump steer, better handling - lose a few mpg, but save your kidneys.
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take my word, i am from the country of super massive potholes. This JK's are as tough as nail... fortunately for me, there are countless holes and crevases (excuse my english please? i forgot the spelling)
and JK just flattens every single holes... a must have truck for UB roads
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I was a lot more afraid of potholes in my Subaru because of the low-profile tires and the stiff suspension.
Which is one of the major reasons I got rid of my WRX, and bought the Jeep, much happier now on MA roads(aka the surface of the Moon)
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:32 AM   #19
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CT isn't much better, I've never seen it as bad as it is this year. I've actually been thinking of airing down a bit. LOL - but seriously. I hit a couple quick ones, one right after the other & I could feel it resonate all the way up to the steering wheel & linger. My suspension was not happy, it kinda freaked me out.

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that's why you will need Jeep with fat tires in northeast.. You dont have to go anywhere to offroad, just drive around, u will find hundreds of hotholes ,lol
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CLE Ohio is no better. Being on road is rougher than any off road I've done. But the larger tires and heavier suspension definitely make a big difference. My Mustang would get eaten alive on our roads right now while my CoD rolls through like nothing (I'm running 315/70/17). Like it was said earlier, no tire is infallible, but our Jeep tires are definitely heartier than the thin-walled car tires.
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CLE Ohio is no better. Being on road is rougher than any off road I've done. But the larger tires and heavier suspension definitely make a big difference. My Mustang would get eaten alive on our roads right now while my CoD rolls through like nothing (I'm running 315/70/17). Like it was said earlier, no tire is infallible, but our Jeep tires are definitely heartier than the thin-walled car tires.
I ran many Cleveland winters in a Mustang so I feel you! Now I live in Phoenix where our roads are basically pristine other than those stupid speed bumps they put everywhere and I drive a Jeep lol!
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I'm in the tire business in NJ and love the potholes! My customers are telling me it's the worst they've ever seen them and I'm talking rural as well as city.

A lot of my business is equipment tires and with all the snow we're booming. My customers hate asking me how my weather is, 70 and sunny!
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Left lane of the belt parkway is basically undriveable. Blasted my focus again trying to pass someone doing 30 mph. Thankfully my tire was ok. Think I'm just going to stick to the middle lane until I order my duratracs.
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I'm in New Jersey and the pot holes are Extremely bad this year.... I just put on nitto trails so I should be ok but I'll still watch out for the china deep pot holes.
I drove through Jersey yesterday on 322. Drivers in front of me looked like slalom racers trying to avoid the pot holes
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They finally fixed one of the bigger potholes on the LIE westbound. The patch was only 30 ft long and the width of the whole left lane.

There is another spot on the service road that is just off exit 37. It is 2 lanes wide and probably 300 ft long. You literally have to go 5 miles an hour. I bet if you made something like this at Rausch creek it would be a huge attraction.
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Left lane of the belt parkway is basically undriveable. Blasted my focus again trying to pass someone doing 30 mph. Thankfully my tire was ok. Think I'm just going to stick to the middle lane until I order my duratracs.
The on ramps of the belt are incredible...literally look like an offroad park.
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The section of BQE btwn Williamsburg and Kosciuszko Bridge is increasing traffic by extra 10-15 mins due to the potholes. The best part is watching idiots with European cars thinking they are invincible and going 50-70mph over the pot holes while everyone is rolling bumper to bumper.
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The section of BQE btwn Williamsburg and Kosciuszko Bridge is increasing traffic by extra 10-15 mins due to the potholes. The best part is watching idiots with European cars thinking they are invincible and going 50-70mph over the pot holes while everyone is rolling bumper to bumper.
Don't worry, they will be making an expensive visit to their mechanic soon.
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The frost heaves and freeze/thaw cycles just obliterated the roads around here. Worst I have ever seen. Some roads are worse off than some mountain pass roads I have done in the Rockies... you practically need a desert race trophy truck to cross town in any reasonable period of time

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