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Old 01-07-2011, 04:49 AM   #1
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Power increase in the JK, try it!

All I have to do is think of the 73 Ford Pinto I drove in High School!
Now when I press the petal on the right I grin ear to ear!

I am new to the Jeep family, but amazed at how many complain on the lack of power from their Jeep, makes me wonder why they bought a Jeep to start with. In the early 80's me and my father bought a 1948 CJ3A, the engine had been rebuilt but other then that it was pretty much a basket case.
We rebuilt it ourselves, it was an experience that will always be cherished the time we had doing this together. When it was completed we had fun going about anywhere we wanted as long as we was not in a hurry, as I stated it was a 1948 and it had the original Flathead 4 cyl I can't recall what the HP was but I would bet it was less then 75 HP but took us anywhere.

We buy a Jeep to take us places other vehicles dream about, that's what Jeeps was designed to do.

Why is this need for speed, slow down! life is too fast anyhow, if you need more power then that can be done with gears.

We just seem to always want more, plastic flowers are the most beautiful flower a person can buy. But you can't smell it!

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i did a little personal research on the board a while back asking what kind of previous vehicle new jk owners had. i saw a lot of v8 trucks and sporty cars. so i'm not surprised to hear all the gripes, no matter how unfounded i find them to be.
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My own cherished "first jeep experience" was with a 1945 CJ2 in the early 60s. IIRC it was around 45HP and it would go anywhere.....at its own pace.....the various comforts were nearly non-existent. The heater/defrost was an illusion. I once was feeling around down around the defrost fan to see whether it was actually turning.....managed to get my finger in the little cage around it and was smited mightily by a blunt edge turning feebly and slowly.

Under ideal conditions there might be barely enough non-frigid air moving onto the windshield to almost keep the condensation off. The heavy frost on the canvas top made winter coats mandatory for any driving between Oct-April or so.

Still, it went places that opened up a whole new world to me. The nearly box-stock GI everything was amazingly effective at doing what it was designed to do.

Today's wranglers are incredibly upgraded. Only a week in on this purchase, I haven't found the point of "not enough power".

Went on some old logging routes yesterday. Wonderful experience. Good suspension, good heater/defrost, what's not to like?
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a guy my father used to work with at Gore has an old willys jeep he used to drive from philly to fair hill, md. every day, all year long. that's over an hour drive. no heat or defrost, canvas top. he kept a scraper and a towel in the jeep to do the INSIDE of the windshield.

so yeah, everyone should quit their bitching.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:23 AM   #6
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a guy my father used to work with at Gore has an old willys jeep he used to drive from philly to fair hill, md. every day, all year long. that's over an hour drive. no heat or defrost, canvas top. he kept a scraper and a towel in the jeep to do the INSIDE of the windshield.

so yeah, everyone should quit their bitching.
How about those vacuum operated wipers,, sure miss them.
Anyone know how I could upgrade the JK to this???

Back off throttle, wiper sweep, back on throttle,,,man that was the days!!!
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How about those vacuum operated wipers,, sure miss them.
Anyone know how I could upgrade the JK to this???

Back off throttle, wiper sweep, back on throttle,,,man that was the days!!!

or the even older hand operated wipers!! that is hard core.
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txron,

I used to drive a little compact and of course, did modifications to it. It wasn't fast, but zippy. I used to drive fast. But ever since I picked up the Jeep, I've been taking it slow, smelling the roses (especially with the roof down).

For those that complain about the speed, well, that's what a test drive is for!
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I never understood the complaints. I can understand why we tweak our Jeeps to get the most out of it especially when we add larger tires. But we tweak to get more out of the larger tires. I have taken my Jeep on many trips and I have to say that It never lacked power to go 70 mph down the highway. Nor did I ever have a problem passing the slow poke riding in the fast lane. Don't want to start me on that topic. But I tell you what, if you put power into perspective then go out and buy a Kia Rio then tell me that a Jeep has no power, lol. I do find it funny though that for something that some have called a slug seems to take a steep hill like it is nothing and has never stalled out on me from lack of power.

But that said, what I find exciting about a Jeep is that there is so much you can do with it. And the pleasure of driving it is awesome. It only took one test drive for me to be hooked and never look back. If you want power get a supercharger and love it. You can personalize a Jeep anyway you want. Don't worry about the power but rather enjoy the fun. A Jeep is like a women. The right one can give you great pleasure but empties your wallet.
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For those that complain about the speed, well, that's what a test drive is for!
x5349185134571234698724689!!!!

that's always my first question to myself reading the complaints. did you not test drive it?
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For the days I need to go fast, I drive my wife's Grand Cherokee. That Hemi is the most fun I've ever had driving I-25 and I have tickets to prove it. I think I drove it last 3 months ago. Love my Wrangler.
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Talk about power. I sold my 2010 Camaro SS with 426HP to buy my 2010 Jeep Wrangler. Don't get me wrong the Camaro was awesome to drive but I have more fun driving my Jeep. I did lose a little power when I put Khumo 33x12.5 tires on 17x9 wheels but to compensate I downloaded Superchips Flashpaq and installed K & N CAI and MBPR performane exhausts. Power is more than adequate for my needs and I get better MPG now. Sure it would be nice to have 350HP in my Wrangler but then what would I do with it. Not the most aerodynamic vehicle I have ever driven.
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"he kept a scraper and a towel in the jeep to do the INSIDE of the windshield."

I had a towel for the inside of my TJ. I hated having the top up.
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I love that! That's great
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The dealer that sold me my 2010 Sport has one just like it in the shop, in the middle of a conversion to a Hemi that they bought out of a new Grand Cherokee. It looks to be a pretty intense install. Even the firewall has to be pounded and dented to allow space for the longer engine. They estimate that when done, they will have easily sunk at least $20k into the conversion. Obviously there's a customer our there with a lot more money laying around than I've got. Personally, I'm like PecosRiver, and when I get my foot into a hemi or a stroker motor or any other overly powered car, I find myself in trouble. I too LOVE the power of my stock Wrangler. Gets me through traffic real nice, but doesn't get me tickets. My wife can drive the powerful cars because she can hold her foot back. Not me... Power's there to be used.
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i would really love to drive a hemi wrangler. right now, i just can't pay double what my jeep cost new just for a hemi. i do understand there is a lot that goes into it.

of course if money was no object........
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I bought mine when the dealers weren't even sure they'd be in business much longer, prior to the bailouts. I STOLE that thing! $42,000 sticker, paid $31,000. It was the priciest Jeep on their lot.
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I'm with you 100% my JK is plenty quick enough.
My first car was a '74 Beatle.
After that anything is fast, my record speed was 80 down a hill, I could hold 70 only when drafting a Semi. I've driven fast cars but its all relative, I love the JK and have no problem with the speed.
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Why is this need for speed, slow down! life is too fast anyhow, if you need more power then that can be done with gears.
No you can't. It truly baffles me how many people believe this myth.


Anyway, we put up with the Jeep's deficiencies because of its off-road prowess:

The harsh ride - a result of the solid axles we get.
The noise - a result of those wonderful removable tops.
The difficult entry and exit - a result of all that ground clearance
The lack of storage - gives us that wonderful turning radius and break-over angle
The terrible fuel economy - a result of that styling we're all drawn to (and the poor aerodynamics that go with it)

There is nothing about off-roading that requires a dog of a motor. So yeah, those of us who aren't used to driving econoboxes and 18-wheelers, we'll continue complaining.

As for slowing down and smelling the roses...I'll do that when someone pays me to do so, or when I'm on vacation somewhere that has roses to smell. Trying to merge with freeway traffic in a city is not a good time to be smelling roses...

That said, I don't complain too awful much...just state the fact that the Jeep is slow every now and then. I purchased my 190 hp Jeep to supplement my 190 hp motorcycle...
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The harsh ride - a result of the solid axles we get.
The noise - a result of those wonderful removable tops.
The difficult entry and exit - a result of all that ground clearance
The lack of storage - gives us that wonderful turning radius and break-over angle
The terrible fuel economy - a result of that styling we're all drawn to (and the poor aerodynamics that go with it)

The nicest explanation i've ever seen regarding wranglers !!! : )
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I'm with you 100% my JK is plenty quick enough.
My first car was a '74 Beatle.
After that anything is fast, my record speed was 80 down a hill, I could hold 70 only when drafting a Semi. I've driven fast cars but its all relative, I love the JK and have no problem with the speed.

1974! That was pure, unadulterated horsepower!

When I started driving in 1967 my Dad bought an old, tired 1954 Beetle with an 1100cc engine (it was going to be a collectors car). It had 36 HP when new. Who knows what it had when he gave it to me. Most people can't imagine the joys of owning a less than 36 HP manual transmission car in northern Ohio with lots of hills and snow/ice.
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No you can't. It truly baffles me how many people believe this myth.


Anyway, we put up with the Jeep's deficiencies because of its off-road prowess:

The harsh ride - a result of the solid axles we get.
-----My JKU rides as smooth/harsh as I want it to---

The noise - a result of those wonderful removable tops.
-----No noise-quiet as a mouse---

The difficult entry and exit - a result of all that ground clearance
-----Easy as pie


The lack of storage - gives us that wonderful turning radius and break-over angle
-----All kinds of storage and with rack, even more----

The terrible fuel economy - a result of that styling we're all drawn to (and the poor aerodynamics that go with it)
----I don't consider 15mpg--THAT POOR fuel economy, I had a Dodge Ramcharger in 1974 that got 11 mpg---

There is nothing about off-roading that requires a dog of a motor. So yeah, those of us who aren't used to driving econoboxes and 18-wheelers, we'll continue complaining.

As for slowing down and smelling the roses...I'll do that when someone pays me to do so, or when I'm on vacation somewhere that has roses to smell. Trying to merge with freeway traffic in a city is not a good time to be smelling roses...

That said, I don't complain too awful much...just state the fact that the Jeep is slow every now and then. I purchased my 190 hp Jeep to supplement my 190 hp motorcycle...
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