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Old 03-20-2012, 02:16 PM   #31
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Sorry to steal the thread here. Is that really true? I'm heavily considering a 2012 2 Door 6 speed for my driving in the Urban Jungle that is Manhattan. My current DD is a Lotus Elise, which I would like to make my weekend driver. I guess you can say I like purpose built vehicles. I would occasionally, at least I like to tell myself to make the purchase have even a modicum of rationality, take the jeep light off roading in upstate new york. Pj O'Rourke's piece on why the wrangler is a great DD conveys exactly how I feel about it. I know it's not a great car for us pavement drivers, and thats sort of exactly why I want it.

Anyway, and more to the point, I tend to keep my cars 1-2 years, so this resale value quotient is quite important to me.

I in no way need the Rubi, I was thinking likely the Sahara because I want the beige interior.

Is there really that large of a difference between the Sahara/sports and the Rubi's in terms of retention value? I know the Wrangler in general has the highest resale value of any American car (to my knowledge), but I was not aware of a difference in retention value between the various models.

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I have a 2010 Sahara with 44000 on it, just traded it in on 2012 Rubicon and got 5500.00 over what I owed, nice down payment.

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Old 04-29-2012, 09:01 AM   #32
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Like others here, I'm trying to decide between the Sahara and the Rubicon. I'm worried about being a poser too. I drive a suburban north Texas commute 3-4 days a week and spend 99% of my time on highways. However, we do have land in east Tx that barely has a passable road and I do a lot of camping around the state. We're new empty-nesters and I *hope* to start doing more fun stuff. I currently drive an '02 Xterra (2WD) that I adore but it's time to get something new and pass this one on to my daughter. I told my husband this was my version of a Harley... my mid-life-crisis toy, but I'll actually drive it every day unlike some expensive bike. If I get to go off-road once a year it will probably be the happiest days that year, right? I could get a nice little Benz but hey, it's not like I'm driving the Autobahn every day either. (Yes, I'm rationalizing out loud.)

No longer will I fear the potholes of the local shopping mall! Steep highway ramps shall not daunt me! I WILL have the Rubicon of my dreams! Or a Sahara. Still deciding.

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Old 04-30-2012, 08:31 PM   #33
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I just traded my 2010 Sahara in on a 2012 Rubicon, I had it 2 years and 2 months, it had 45500 miles on it. I got 23500.00 trade in for it, cleared 5800.00 to pay down on the Rubicon, payments are less then they were on the Sahara.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:37 PM   #34
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I wanted a Rubicon when I bought my Sahara in 2010 but I let a few people talk me out of it. After I got the Sahara, I kept looking at how much I needed to spend to get it up to par on what I wanted, wheels, tires, lockers, etc and I kept kicking myself. When the 2012s came out with the better engine and transmission, I knew I wanted a Rubicon this time. I love it. I have a friend with a Sport that is doing what I did, deciding what to add first to get it up to par. Just my 2 cents
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:41 PM   #35
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Actually, many are saying that Rubicons hold their value better. That isn't true. The Rubicon actually is at the bottom of the three in residual value. The Sport actually holds it value better and then the Sahara and then the Rubicon. That comes from Chryslers lease information. Now mods don't hold value real well so many use this to say that Rubicons hold their value better because they need less mods. Again, not really true. Most mods many do to one they do to any model like new tire and wheels, lifts, premium bumpers and other mods.

If you don't need a Rubicons crawling advantages then don't get it. they are all based on a Sport with just a package upgrade. Again, it's the extras that don't hold value. The Wrangler does great in value over the years by itself.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:46 PM   #36
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I'll put it this way, if you get a rubicon you won't regret it....Seems like there's a possibility of that happening with another consideration...
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:54 PM   #37
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Wow, looks like there are some really thought out responses here, but will just say this:

If you have to ask the question, you're probably better off with the Sport or Sahara - not the Rubi.

P.S. I pick up my Rubi within the next 48 hrs...
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:55 PM   #38
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:51 PM   #39
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I own both, a Sahara and a Rubicon. Take your pick. Either is nice.

I ordered the Sahara with 3.73's, LSD and a couple of other ammenities. Otherwise it had everything we wanted.

The Rubicon does have the D44's, Lockers, Disco's etc...

Driving both is about the same. I have not wheeled either hard yet, but both will be more capable than I will be. I had a 03 Sport. I liked the Sahara's so when the wife needed a new car, we traded in her old vehicle and the Sahara is what we bought first. I wanted a new Jeep to replace my Sport and always wanted a Rubicon so I got one.

Will you use everything from the Rubicon? Who cares, if it is what you want get it. Will you push the Sahara past its limits, probably not it is very capable, it is a Jeep after all. Price difference was about $3000.

If you don't get a Rubicon and go with the Sahara, take the saving and use it on a vacation or trip (maybe 2) to put your new Jeep through its paces...
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:06 PM   #40
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If you want four wheel drive buy a Rubicon
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Old 07-10-2012, 05:55 PM   #41
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Nice revival of an OLD thread, ... so I'll add my 2cents, ..

People are always talking about modifying their sports and sahara's to match a Rubicon, but it would cost more to modify a sport to match than it would to buy a Rubi.

Everyone's talking about E-disco's and lockers, but the the Low gear in the Rubi has gotten me through more stuff without even having to use the lockers. Swapping tranny's is a much more expensive proposition, ...

I've owned a 96 XJ Classic for a few years now, and I can honestly tell you that I drive my JK with the confidence that it would take some real doing to get her stuck.

Besides, ... who's got a bigger R&D budget, .. ME sitting at home on surfing the internet, or JEEP?
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Ive owned many tacos and two rubi's... the 2012 JKR is by far light years ahead of my 08 TRD off road DCSB 4X4... LIGHT YEARS!
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:41 AM   #43
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I own both, a Sahara and a Rubicon. Take your pick. Either is nice.

I ordered the Sahara with 3.73's, LSD and a couple of other ammenities. Otherwise it had everything we wanted.

The Rubicon does have the D44's, Lockers, Disco's etc...

Driving both is about the same. I have not wheeled either hard yet, but both will be more capable than I will be. I had a 03 Sport. I liked the Sahara's so when the wife needed a new car, we traded in her old vehicle and the Sahara is what we bought first. I wanted a new Jeep to replace my Sport and always wanted a Rubicon so I got one.

Will you use everything from the Rubicon? Who cares, if it is what you want get it. Will you push the Sahara past its limits, probably not it is very capable, it is a Jeep after all. Price difference was about $3000.

If you don't get a Rubicon and go with the Sahara, take the saving and use it on a vacation or trip (maybe 2) to put your new Jeep through its paces...
Like the thought process here... also that you have two Jeeps these damn things are addicting

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