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Old 11-01-2012, 01:17 PM   #31
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I actually prefer a firm gas pedal on a off-road vehicle. It's too easy to gallop a off-road vehicle with a soft pedal. Like my YJ for instance, a deck of cards will hold the gas pedal down.
I prefer my yjs gas pedal and I don't rodeo it and I've been through some deep/ bumpy areas

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Old 11-01-2012, 03:46 PM   #32
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Gas pedal hard to push, man card rejected.
Hehe, sounds like something I'd usually say. Mine wasn't hard to push though, more jerky, like it would move in increments rather than a smooth motion. Now it's a bit too soft so I'm going to try a new assembly to see if mine was faulty.

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It seems like my brake pedal is set forward and my accelerator is further back... Either way somehow i feel like I'm too close to the steering wheel yet perfect when it comes to distance from pedals... :/
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:15 AM   #34
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Believe it or not the second you hit 1000 miles the jeep comes alive. It's hard to explain but you are in for a surprise and a pleasant one at that. Seems like they have some kind of breakin procedure pre programmed.
Is this true? Source plz.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:28 AM   #35
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This was the first thing I said when I got my '12 manual. It was the oppsite of my '05 manual. The clutch was heavier than the gas (as it should be) in the '05 and the opposite in the '12. It is a very odd feeling after driving stick my entire life.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:45 AM   #36
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The pedal on my 2012 6 speed doesn't feel stiff or hard to push. I have 2 other vehicles and it's pretty much the same gas pedal feel on all of them. I'd check some other new Jeeps in the dealer parking lot to see if they're the same as yours.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:33 PM   #37
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I am completely used to it at this point. Nothing that warrants messing with.
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This was the first thing I said when I got my '12 manual. It was the oppsite of my '05 manual. The clutch was heavier than the gas (as it should be) in the '05 and the opposite in the '12. It is a very odd feeling after driving stick my entire life.
That's one of the reasons I went auto. I found it difficult to use the hard gas/soft clutch pedals. Been driving sticks all my life and just didn't like it at all
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:10 PM   #39
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I actually prefer a firm gas pedal on a off-road vehicle. It's too easy to gallop a off-road vehicle with a soft pedal. Like my YJ for instance, a deck of cards will hold the gas pedal down.
Totally agree.
The jeep is more responsive to the gas peddle in 4Lo.
A stiffer peddle is better for offroad especially when bumping over obsticles when even a light unintentional push on a sensitive accelerator could put you or your spotter in a bad situation.
Granted it does add to a bit of driver fatigue on the highway or around town, but IMO I'd rather be safer offroad.
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:39 PM   #40
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Just picked up my 13 JKUR manual the other day, and I agree you can most definitely feel two distinct different levels of restriction with the gas pedal. I kind of like it, its softer in the zone that kind of keeps me in "ECO" and is more or less the mellow side of driving the Jeep. If I want more GO GO you just push past the cushy travel and into the more restrictive zone of the gas pedal's travel. More gas equals more resistance from the pedal.
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Wondering how your experience has been after several months of working with the large spring removed? I'm in need of this adjustment as city driving in wearing out my shins, but I want to make sure this is a good mod. Thanks for the advice!
yeah its been on for quite some time and i love it,,, no issues on or off road and i wheel the piss outta my jeep... sorry for the delay in my respons ,,but i'v been taking a vacation from WF,,, to many flamethrowers out there.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:23 PM   #42
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yeah its been on for quite some time and i love it,,, no issues on or off road and i wheel the piss outta my jeep... sorry for the delay in my respons ,,but i'v been taking a vacation from WF,,, to many flamethrowers out there.
Haha. Thanks man, I agree, it's better. Found a few flames here too but whatever, it's a great resource and I'm happy to contribute what I can.

You didn't happen to take a photo of the internals of the acc pedal did ya? Can't figure out where that wedge shaped piece of white plastic goes. Pedal works fine without it but I didn't intend to go in there in search of spare parts lol.
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Weird, I have never noticed...but I have been driving jeeps for 25 years, so if you have come from a car, perhaps it is more distinct.

Actually, I wish that mine had more resistance, because I do a lot of around town driving...and with 285 HP and a 4.10 rear axle, I tend to stand on it bit...because it responds so much more nicely than my TJ...and that is not helping my gas mileage.
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Haha. Thanks man, I agree, it's better. Found a few flames here too but whatever, it's a great resource and I'm happy to contribute what I can.

You didn't happen to take a photo of the internals of the acc pedal did ya? Can't figure out where that wedge shaped piece of white plastic goes. Pedal works fine without it but I didn't intend to go in there in search of spare parts lol.
sorry no pictures, i got so frustrated trying to get that top nut off i was running out of daylight ,,,so i did not take the time to snap any pictures.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:06 PM   #45
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I just removed the spring tonight. It was so easy and so worth it. It is so much more enjoyable to drive. It was a piece of cake, only took 30 minutes to do. And I did take pictures but I cant figure out how to post them.
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here it is as an attatchment
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here it is as an attatchment
That's awesome, thanks for the shot (glad I got it right . I really appreciate it.
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Thanks for the great write up.
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Well I finally did this as I've voiced my opinion of the "hard" gas pedal since day one. I completely understand why it's built this way, and I'd prefer the stiffer pedal for off-road, but 99% of the time I'm not off-road I tried removing each spring separately and either way the pedal was much too soft. I went to Home depot and bought some small compression springs. In the picture below, the thicker spring is the smaller spring in the pedal assembly. I replaced it with a cut version of the spring next to it. I just cut it to the same approximate length and the OEM spring and voila, it's perfect (for me)
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:19 PM   #50
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In the picture below, the thicker spring is the smaller spring in the pedal assembly. I replaced it with a cut version of the spring next to it. I just cut it to the same approximate length and the OEM spring and voila, it's perfect (for me)
Nice! Thanks for that. I was thinking about doing the same but after a week or so of driving with the single outer spring in my pedal I'm now used to it and very much enjoy it. If it starts to soften up tho I'll be following your methodology.
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well i did find some picture, one is the angle of the ratchet .
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:32 PM   #54
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I just did my pedal this afternoon. I had been having some hip pain from a cycling injury and the stiff pedal was making it worse. Took the inner spring out and it's nice and soft now. Thanks for the procedure write up.
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Well I finally did this as I've voiced my opinion of the "hard" gas pedal since day one. I completely understand why it's built this way, and I'd prefer the stiffer pedal for off-road, but 99% of the time I'm not off-road I tried removing each spring separately and either way the pedal was much too soft. I went to Home depot and bought some small compression springs. In the picture below, the thicker spring is the smaller spring in the pedal assembly. I replaced it with a cut version of the spring next to it. I just cut it to the same approximate length and the OEM spring and voila, it's perfect (for me)
What's to stop your new inside spring from flopping around?

BTW what diameter and length was the new spring before you modded it?
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Believe it or not the second you hit 1000 miles the jeep comes alive. It's hard to explain but you are in for a surprise and a pleasant one at that. Seems like they have some kind of breakin procedure pre programmed.
I was enjoying my firm gas pedal actually. I could rest my foot a bit while driving without worrying I was putting too much weight on the pedal for once, then I got over 1000 miles... yeah... it loosened up and my shift points in the transmission changed too. I am now at about 2000 miles and it's the same, I wish I could go back to the first 1000 miles on it.
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Nearly 10,000 miles on mine and the gas pedal is pretty firm. Not to mention, I simply can NOT get off to a smooth start, no matter what (manual transmission). I've been driving manuals for nearly 12 years and haven't had any problems with any of my manual vehicles until this one. It's impossible to feather the gas and I feel like I always have to rev the engine to about 2,000 RPMs to keep the damned thing from stalling.

...Maybe it's the electronic throttle?
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Nearly 10,000 miles on mine and the gas pedal is pretty firm. Not to mention, I simply can NOT get off to a smooth start, no matter what (manual transmission). I've been driving manuals for nearly 12 years and haven't had any problems with any of my manual vehicles until this one. It's impossible to feather the gas and I feel like I always have to rev the engine to about 2,000 RPMs to keep the damned thing from stalling.

...Maybe it's the electronic throttle?
Depends on what kind of driving you're doing. I understand that some jeep owners prefer the factory dual spring setup in the gas pedal to avoid 'bouncy throttle' on rough trails. That does make sense. If you're more of a city/mountain trail driver you'll find that removing the center spring from the assembly will make your life much easier.

If you're on the fence, after removing the middle spring I compared my gas pedal to a Mercedes e350, Lexus es300, & Nissan murano. Chances are you'll have had some experience with a vehicle in one of these categories as they all use the same drive by wire components as their sibling models. The modified jeep pedal is still more stiff then any of those.

So it's still a firmer pedal then most sedans or SUVs, but requires much less effort to engage. For me it's resulted in a much smoother and enjoyable driving experience and I've had no difficulty on the trail whatsoever. The caveat being that I'm not driving a jacked up rock crawling rig, nor do I intend to be doing that kind of driving.
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So it's still a firmer pedal then most sedans or SUVs, but requires much less effort to engage.
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Depends on what kind of driving you're doing. I understand that some jeep owners prefer the factory dual spring setup in the gas pedal to avoid 'bouncy throttle' on rough trails. That does make sense. If you're more of a city/mountain trail driver you'll find that removing the center spring from the assembly will make your life much easier.

If you're on the fence, after removing the middle spring I compared my gas pedal to a Mercedes e350, Lexus es300, & Nissan murano. Chances are you'll have had some experience with a vehicle in one of these categories as they all use the same drive by wire components as their sibling models. The modified jeep pedal is still more stiff then any of those.

So it's still a firmer pedal then most sedans or SUVs, but requires much less effort to engage. For me it's resulted in a much smoother and enjoyable driving experience and I've had no difficulty on the trail whatsoever. The caveat being that I'm not driving a jacked up rock crawling rig, nor do I intend to be doing that kind of driving.
Sounds like I may wanna try removing it. How do I remove the spring?

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