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Old 03-27-2012, 09:51 PM   #1
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Quadratec Q9000 Winch Unboxing/Installation with pix

After a wait of about a month, I received my Quadratec Q9000 winch today. The UPS driver left it on my front porch and this precluded my bringing it inside to assemble it. First, the box. I was pleased to see that the box was still rectangular and that there weren't any holes in it.
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As I flipped the box on its side, I heard some small stuff rattling around in there. Naturally, I was worried. But upon opening the box, I found that the worst damage had been sustained by the Quadratec catalog. No great loss; I have about five of them. Everything was well-secured, with the exception of a couple of bolts and washers.
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The winch itself was well secured in the box. As is visible in the picture, the sides of the box have multiple layers of cardboard. They clearly intended for this thing to arrive at its location in working order. This winch was sold to me as a "second" due to some minor cosmetic damage that occurred en route to Quadratec. The blemishes were minor and no worse than what probably will be on there after several months of driving around with it on the front of my JK.
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The additional components were in other boxes alongside the winch. The solenoid box looked fine, but the controller already looked like it had seen some use. Everything else looked great.
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In the box were:
  • The winch
  • Solenoid
  • Wired controller
  • Roller fairlead
  • Bolts and nuts for mounting the winch and fairlead to the bumper
  • Side mount plate for the solenoid
  • Installation instructions - full-color, on glossy paper
  • Owner's manual - 47 pages, glove box size
  • The usual Quadratec catalog
As I laid everything out, I came to the first real problem: on the first page of the installation guide, it says "verify that all parts are in the box." However, there is not a parts list to compare to. That's a pretty severe oversight in my opinion.

This is when I had to make a call to Quadratec. The instructions imply that there are two sets of mounting hardware for the solenoid: one for top-mounting it above the cable spool and another one for mounting it over the motor. My box was missing the top-mounting hardware. I had to call customer service to verify and to get them to send me the top mount.

Being an impatient sort, I went ahead and mounted the solenoid above the motor. When I get the other hardware, I will probably move it to the middle if I can.

So, dive into the instructions. Everything is very clearly explained. The cables are color-keyed to the ends of the connection studs, so it is very difficult to make a mistake in wiring it up. The connection hardware on the ends of the cables is heavy duty and attached firmly. I have a problem with this line regarding the cable connections from the solenoid to the motor: "be careful not to over-tighten". On the winch itself, it specifies that the connectors should be tightened no more than 10 Nm. My torque wrench only goes down to about 16 Nm, so I just used my trusty socket wrench and made them snug.

The winch having been assembled, I moved to the bumper of my JK to install the fairlead. The instructions are completely silent on the matter of installing it, but it's pretty straightforward. I had to decide whether to feed the bolts through from back to front, or the other direction. It turned out to be a good thing that I stuck the bolts through from the back; their length would have interfered with mounting the winch had I done them the other way. A word about this in the guide would have been nice; surely I am not the only first-timer who is going to try to install this winch.

Now, with the fairlead safely attached to the bumper, I could install the winch itself. My son's skateboard turned out to be a perfect cart for rolling it over to my rig. I was able to get it onto my Smittybilt SRC bumper with little difficulty; the fit was tight, but workable.

The winch mounts to the bumper using stout bolts. But the legs of the winch are not threaded internally. Instead, there are cutouts exactly the right size to accept flanged nuts and hold them in place while the bolts are tightened. The instruction guide recommends sticking them in place with a little bearing grease; it would have been good if I had heeded this advice because I had a bit of trouble getting one of the nuts back into its little alcove when they all fell out as I was positioning the winch.

Now it was time to attach the winch. I was able to tighten the two mounting bolts on the front of the winch, but the ones in back completely defeated me. This is not the winch's fault but a problem with the design of the bumper. My daughter was able to sneak a hand in there and get the last two bolts hand-tight, but I don't have a tool capable of getting in there to tighten the bolts. And getting a torque wrench on them to tighten them to the specified 50 ft.-lbs. of torque seems like an impossible dream.

Overall, I spent about two hours working on this project, including ten minutes waiting to talk to Quadratec. Not too bad for a first-timer working largely by himself.

Tomorrow, I will need to go visit my friendly neighborhood mechanic to see if he has a way to torque those two bolts. Since it isn't mounted properly yet, I haven't hooked it up to the battery. However, I have run the power cables back there and they reach the battery with several inches to spare. Once I have it hooked up, I will be able to give it a test pull and see how well it works.

In summary:

The Good
  • Winch is solidly packaged.
  • Installation instructions are easy to understand.
  • The owners manual is very thorough and easy to keep in your rig.
The not-so Good
  • Missing parts.
  • Incomplete installation instructions, especially the lack of a parts list.
And here it is on my Jeep. I really think it would look better if the solenoid was mounted in the center, but I am not sure that I want to try to move it since it seems that it will require completely unmounting it.
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Great job and clear posting info. Looks good on your Jeep too.

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Great write up!!! Have you tested it out yet?
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I was able to tighten the two mounting bolts on the front of the winch, but the ones in back completely defeated me.
I have the same bumper and installed it and my winch 2 weekends ago and ran into the same problem. No matter what I tried I could not get those nuts to tighten all the way. I tried EVERYTHING I have. Universal joint on a socket, multiple wrenched and different sets of pliers. That was the single worst part of the whole bumper and winch install.

Please let me know if you figure out how to get them tight. If that damn lip on the rear whole didn't curve up it would be fine
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You guys think removal of the bumper would let access to those bolts?? I'm afraid with my RR XHD that I'm going to have to pull the entire bumper to get the winch on it...
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Great job and clear posting info. Looks good on your Jeep too.
yep! nice write up thanks for sharing. interested in hearing how you like it on the trail! keep us in the loop.

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You guys think removal of the bumper would let access to those bolts?? I'm afraid with my RR XHD that I'm going to have to pull the entire bumper to get the winch on it...
I really do not think so. As another poster mentioned, there is a lip on the bumper itself that prevents you from getting a tool on those back bolts. I have a buddy with a shop around the corner and I will be asking him tomorrow. If I can just get them snug, I will feel good about hooking up the power leads and trying it out.

I think a very short box-end wrench might do the trick. It will just be tough to get enough leverage on it to get it to the spec'd torque.
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You guys think removal of the bumper would let access to those bolts?? I'm afraid with my RR XHD that I'm going to have to pull the entire bumper to get the winch on it...
Honestly, I don't think it would help at all. The problem is the lip on the back curves up towards the bolt limiting the space to almost nothing. If you try to go in from the back the curves gets you again as it sticks out to the front too far to allow access.

I thought about trying to cut the top portion of the curve out, but really didn't want to cut through that sexy powdercoat. Plus, the tiny size of the holes on the front and the angle at which the front plate is mounted at only allows me to get a couple fingers in the hole at one time and I don't have huge hands either
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Looks nice, can you post some more pics from farther out?
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great write up. did you winch anything yet lol? but, also, what do you think about that color? not the most appealing eh?
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what do you think about that color? not the most appealing eh?
It's not as bad as the pix make it look, except for the solenoid box, which is pretty close to the same color as an IBM PC from 1990. I would have made the whole thing a darker shade of gray, but performance is what counts to me. If it's as good as its published specs for that amount of money, I'm not one to quibble about the color.

Of course, if it was pink with Hello Kitty stickers on it, I would probably have to get a cover for it.
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Looks nice, can you post some more pics from farther out?
Yeah...I will get some more when I actually try it out.
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Sorry you didn't get your center mount brackets. Mine came with them

I mounted mine on my Smittybilt XRC bumper prior to mounting the bumper without a problem.

I tested my winch and it works - at least when pulling my rig up my driveway while anchored to a tree in the back yard.

Also - I'm not crazy about the color either - but - it can always be painted or have a black cover thrown ontop of it.

Just my 2 cents to share.
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It sounds as though you may have to "fabricate" a special wrench to tighten those bolts. A few years ago I had to do so to allow me to loosen & tighten the spark plug leads on an aircraft engine - they screw on & the exhausts were in the way of any direct access.

What I did was to get the appropriate size open end wrench and bend it in tow spots at 90 degrees which created a funky wrench with kind of a U shape at the end. It required a vise & torch to bend the wrench. Might not work for this instance but perhaps worth a try?
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I got it.

I went to my friend's shop and he had a very low profile 15mm socket with a pivoting head (I think it was a Snap-on). It was able to get in between the flange and the bolt head and tighten it up just fine. I have now hooked it to the battery and made sure that it works. I only winched it out and back in a few inches, but it worked.

The other thing that I think would work is a flex head box wrench because it will work at any angle.
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This is a wonderful write up! I just circulated it around the office for everyone to read here. I'd also like to double check on the warranty for the missing solenoid mount. Could you send me a PM with your account info? I have a few extra sets sitting next to me that I can send out to anyone that gets their winch with the missing center mounts.

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It's not as bad as the pix make it look, except for the solenoid box, which is pretty close to the same color as an IBM PC from 1990. I would have made the whole thing a darker shade of gray, but performance is what counts to me. If it's as good as its published specs for that amount of money, I'm not one to quibble about the color.

Of course, if it was pink with Hello Kitty stickers on it, I would probably have to get a cover for it.

true, I agree it's a function over form in this case...but I still wouldn't buy it unless it came in a darker color like you said, maybe gray or even black. glad it all worked out, go and use it and let us know how awesome that thing is!!
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Its always good when the vendor replys to your write up offering help! also i'd be very interested to see how it works on the trail!
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Of course I was looking to buy that same winch and they were all sold out!!!! I would have had to wait another 3 months for it they said. So I bought a Smittybilt XRC-8. Got my Universal mounting plate from Harbor Freight today, gonna mount it tonight! Might just be posting a thread about it too. I am mounting it inside the stock bumper, l like many others have, upside down with the fairlead mounted on the outside of the stock bumper with some spacers in between the fairlead mount and the bumper! Oh my, I am so very exited!
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By the way Joe from Quadratec, nice job on the response to his thread. You guys are the best!!!
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Subcribed, looking at this as my first mod on my 04 Rubi.
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2 things:

1 I understand the mounting points for this winch are standard measurements - so pretty much all winches will be difficult to install on that particular bumper once it's already mounted. It's no "fault" of this winch (not that anyone said that - but I want to make that clear)

2 would painting my winch void the warranty? Being I'm blacked out, I need to either paint it or get a cover. Does Quadratec have a black cover of their own yet? If not, and it messes up the warranty, I'll be picking up a Smittybilt cover...
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2 things:

1 I understand the mounting points for this winch are standard measurements - so pretty much all winches will be difficult to install on that particular bumper once it's already mounted. It's no "fault" of this winch (not that anyone said that - but I want to make that clear)
In the original post, I most definitely blamed the bumper and not the winch.

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2 would painting my winch void the warranty? Being I'm blacked out, I need to either paint it or get a cover. Does Quadratec have a black cover of their own yet? If not, and it messes up the warranty, I'll be picking up a Smittybilt cover...
I almost picked a cover up to go with it, mainly for protection, but I'm holding out because a) I don't want to get one and find out it does not fit, and b) I kinda wonder if Quadratec is going to start selling one of their own.
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I have always been told before using your winch, you should spool it almost all the way out (leave about 4 coils left around the spool) and wind it back in under load (put a vehicle in neutral and pull it towards the jeep or put the Jeep in neutral and pull it towards a tree. From what I have been told this tightly spools the cable and keeps it from kinking because of slack when you use it for the first time.
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I have always been told before using your winch, you should spool it almost all the way out (leave about 4 coils left around the spool) and wind it back in under load (put a vehicle in neutral and pull it towards the jeep or put the Jeep in neutral and pull it towards a tree. From what I have been told this tightly spools the cable and keeps it from kinking because of slack when you use it for the first time.
Haven't had a chance to do that yet. Maybe this weekend, if I can find somebody who will let me pull their jeep...
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Have you noticed any power losses from adding all that weight to the front?
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Have you noticed any power losses from adding all that weight to the front?
Not so far. I figure I've added about 200 pounds (give or take 15) with all of my mods from this spring. Last night was the first time I have driven it any distance with the new hardware plus my family, and it seemed as zippy as usual--if you can call a Jeep zippy. It will be interesting to see what it does with the A/C on this summer, not that I really ever use it.
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Not trying to hijack your thread - just want to give my opinions too since I have the same winch

I did the line tightening exercise, which is listed in the manual, by pulling my jeep up the driveway while secured to a tree in the back yard. Slow & steady - worked just as expected. Nothing noticeable to my engine or electrical while operating it either (I had lights and 2 audio amps powered up at the same time). 640CCA battery is recommended, but the stock 600 handles the job just fine.

Biggest factor that robbed my rig of power was tossing 33" Nitto Trail Grapplers on. The added weight of steel bumpers and the winch didn't help - but with my lift (a pretty stiff procomp 2 1/2) - the extra weight is welcomed as it helps soften the ride up a lot. There's plenty of power available, but I understand the torque converter makes things feel sluggish - but that's a whole other topic entirely.

Looking forward to more use & review info!
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Nothing noticeable to my engine or electrical while operating it either (I had lights and 2 audio amps powered up at the same time). 640CCA battery is recommended, but the stock 600 handles the job just fine.
That's good to know. When I was hooking it up yesterday, I saw 600 CCA on the battery and wondered how well it would work. I really don't wanna replace my battery until I have to.

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