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Old 07-29-2013, 10:10 PM   #1
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Quality shocks

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I'm looking for a quality set of shocks. Im on somewhat of a budget. Im pretty sure I'll be going with the Rubicon express 2.5 inch standard coil lift. At this point I want opinions on if I spend the $80 per shock and get the kit with monotubes which are tuned bilsteins or look elsewhere for shocks that are similar or of better ride quality for a lower price. Thanks

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I can't believe I replied to a shock thread before KJeeper!

I have Rancho RS9000XLs with 2.5 coil TF lift and love them. The ride is great and adjustable to suit your liking. They are more expensive normally but you can often catch a rebate or deal that makes them very comparable in price.

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On a 2 door I would go teraflex 9550...very good on road.
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Damn it lol

9000's for DD
7000's for DD/off road
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I can't believe I replied to a shock thread before KJeeper!

I have Rancho RS9000XLs with 2.5 coil TF lift and love them. The ride is great and adjustable to suit your liking. They are more expensive normally but you can often catch a rebate or deal that makes them very comparable in price.
I've read that the lever to adjust them is prone to rusting from salt and snow, and living in Ohio I don't know how long they would last before I'd have to replace them. And they are usually $110 each.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:25 PM   #6
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Damn it lol

9000's for DD
7000's for DD/off road
If you are at 2.5 of lift, you get the ones for 0-2" right? and for 3.5 of lift, you get the ones for 4"? correct?

I'm looking to get some 7000s based on your thread about them being less harsh than the bilsteins.
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If you are at 2.5 of lift, you get the ones for 0-2" right? and for 3.5 of lift, you get the ones for 4"? correct?

I'm looking to get some 7000s based on your thread about them being less harsh than the bilsteins.
On road, a 9550 rides better than both of those with a 2 door.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:31 PM   #8
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On road, a 9550 rides better than both of those with a 2 door.
Have you ran both? Also I do plan to offroad occasionally so how do the 9550s hold up and respond?
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Sorry but disagree ^ I've run all the shocks mentioned in this thread lol

0-2" are pretty much for stock or smaller leveling kit.

4" shocks are going to be what you want for 2.5-3" lift. You can go longer if the jeep is set up for them.

I have the chart for the 9000's but not the 7000's,

The 7000's I have now are 10-101/2 travel shocks. I could go longer at 3.5 of height,
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9000's for DD
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I'd run the 7000s. But from dawhitesjku review of the rubicon express lift and their monotubes I heard that the monotubes are not as harsh as the 5100s but still very firm and responsive. Any input?
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The 9550's are ok. A little stiffer shock but lack the responsiveness I like in the 7000's.
same with the 9000's. great shock but the 7000 valving just works better for my setup.
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Have you ran both? Also I do plan to offroad occasionally so how do the 9550s hold up and respond?
I have driven innumerable shock combos on jeeps. I currently run fox but my 9550's gave the best on road ride...yup...better than fox. They are a slight bit soft, so maybe not the best for a 4 door, but really nice on a 2 door. The rubi mono tubes and 7000's are like fox...more high speed offroad, which is nice because I live in louisiana where even the runways are bouncy. 9000's were a great shock 10 years ago. The worst...skyjacker, Bds and rough country. Please avoid those.
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I'd run the 7000s. But from dawhitesjku review of the rubicon express lift and their monotubes I heard that the monotubes are not as harsh as the 5100s but still very firm and responsive. Any input?
Honesty AEV/Re both run "tuned" Bilstiens.
I bought mine separately and have no idea what the psi was at.
Its a love/hate relationship with the 5100's.
I do know, 4 doors seem to pair well with the 5100. The extra wheelbase is what helps.

The 2 door is finicky with shocks. Too firm and the suspension bounces the jeep all over the road. The shocks front to back done have time to do their job.

The 7000's have something like 175-200 psi which is lower then the 5100's and supposed to not be as harsh (according to Rancho)
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The 9550's are ok. A little stiffer shock but lack the responsiveness I like in the 7000's.
same with the 9000's. great shock but the 7000 valving just works better for my setup.
How have the 7000s been holding up? They lose any of their firmness or settle at all?
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Shock choice is so subjective. 4 door/2 door.
Lifted/control arm angles/caster/tire load.
So many things can contribute to a poor ride and make a decent shock to some ride like crap with others.
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Honesty AEV/Re both run "tuned" Bilstiens.
I bought mine separately and have no idea what the psi was at.
Its a love/hate relationship with the 5100's.
I do know, 4 doors seem to pair well with the 5100. The extra wheelbase is what helps.

The 2 door is finicky with shocks. Too firm and the suspension bounces the jeep all over the road. The shocks front to back done have time to do their job.

The 7000's have something like 175-200 psi which is lower then the 5100's and supposed to not be as harsh (according to Rancho)
Have you ever driven a jeep with the tuned bilsteins?
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How have the 7000s been holding up? They lose any of their firmness or settle at all?
Not really. I haven't put many miles on them yet. I do like them though.
They are firm just like most gas shocks but responsive. The jeep feels solid but bumps are soaked up very well. The 5100's sent me trough the roof
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Have you ever driven a jeep with the tuned bilsteins?
Bought mine through Jason at Krawl. Same shock paired with all the RK lifts.
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Honesty AEV/Re both run "tuned" Bilstiens.
I bought mine separately and have no idea what the psi was at.
Its a love/hate relationship with the 5100's.
I do know, 4 doors seem to pair well with the 5100. The extra wheelbase is what helps.

The 2 door is finicky with shocks. Too firm and the suspension bounces the jeep all over the road. The shocks front to back done have time to do their job.

The 7000's have something like 175-200 psi which is lower then the 5100's and supposed to not be as harsh (according to Rancho)
The aev bilstien are great...with the triple progressive rate springs and geo correction brackets. 5100's did well on my 06 LJ and seem to do pretty well on my 85 CJ, but the jk ones seem a bit rough on a 2 door. All of that to say I completely agree with this description of the difference in shock selection for a 2 door. It can absolutely make or break the ride.
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So should I go with the tuned bilstein which may be firm and responsive or send me through the roof, go with the 7000s which are the same price and firm and responsive? Which company has a better reputation and customer support as well?
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OP grab a pen and paper
- rip 10 or so squares.
- write (5100/9550/9000/7000/OME/Fox 2.0/king/Elka on each of them.
- mix all in hat
- reach in and grab one

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So should I go with the tuned bilstein which may be firm and responsive or send me through the roof, go with the 7000s which are the same price and firm and responsive? Which company has a better reputation and customer support as well?
It seems like overkill but I would find a local jeep club and ask to ride along in some 2 door Jk's, and see what you think is the best option for you. Shock feel can be very subjective but I would go 7000 over the re tuned bils...
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OP grab a pen and paper
- rip 10 or so squares.
- write (5100/9550/9000/7000/OME/Fox 2.0/king/Elka on each of them.
- mix all in hat
- reach in and grab one

Enjoy wining shock choice
Now you want to bring Ome into the mix...ha. Rofl
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Remember the "tuned" 5100's are tuned with The manufactures coils. AEV's brackets make a huge difference in ride too.

Part of my problem was mixing them up

Who knows what "tuned" means anyways. Somebody I saw mention- that's just a marketing plot
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I think I'll get the 7000s and make an exit before more shocks are thrown in the mix and a war begins. And I'll probably be getting the aev brackets too after your review kjeeper. Thanks everyone. Once again kjeeper wins with all his knowledge.
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Now you want to bring Ome into the mix...ha. Rofl
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Remember the "tuned" 5100's are tuned with The manufactures coils. AEV's brackets make a huge difference in ride too.

Part of my problem was mixing them up

Who knows what "tuned" means anyways. Somebody I saw mention- that's just a marketing plot
Which for re are tuned to 4 doors...big weight difference, hence my comment before.
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Ooooh I forgot. I do believe Rancho has a 90 day trail period. Don't like them you can return..... You won't but........
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Fantastic ... Good night peeps

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