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Old 09-02-2014, 11:44 PM   #1
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Quebec Problems - Winter Tires

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This is my first post here. I traded in my 2014 Cherokee for a 2014 Wrangler Sahara today and because I live in Quebec, Canada I am required by law to have 4 winter tires with the embossed snowflake mountain symbol.

What tire would you recommend I get for winter?

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Hey fellow Canadian! I'm in manitoba but I just can't believe I'm reading this right. In Quebec is it really a law that you need winter tires? That's quite communistic if you ask me haha. takes away from your own choice. But sorry I cant help you with what tire to get, just never really looked into them.

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A lot of all terrains and commercial traction tires have the snowflake.
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I have a 2dr and live near Montreal. I bought the Yokohama Geolander most of all for the truckish look they have... But if you go this way, may i suggest you to use the chalk test to not overinflate them... 35psi is way too much. The overall is good but as you probably know, 2dr is a kind of drift machine!
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I am from Quebec too.

I bought 4 Hankook rw11 in 265/75r16 (31.6 inches) since I currently have 32 inches tire.

202 CAD$ each and I'll keep a summer tire as the spare tire (since the Hankook are directional tires, only a 50% chance that a winter spare would fit on the side I would need it).

I also got them studded, to help with braking on ice in traffic.

From what I've heard from other jeepers, they are real good in deep snow and on ice!

I have a friend that is buying the new Nokian Hakapellita 8 (did I spelled that right?) for his jeep, seems to be a very good tire too!

If you want to use "off-road" tires all year long, the only ones I know that have the snowflake logo are the duratracs and the BFG ko2 (don't know if it is available around here yet tho)
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Hey fellow Canadian! I'm in manitoba but I just can't believe I'm reading this right. In Quebec is it really a law that you need winter tires? That's quite communistic if you ask me haha. takes away from your own choice. But sorry I cant help you with what tire to get, just never really looked into them.
BC has the same law if yer driving mountain passes. Or choice is "winter tires or carry chains"

Not sure why there needs to be a law tho. Anyone who has switched to winter tires mid winter swears they will never drive on All (3) Seasons or MTs again.
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I have a 2dr and live near Montreal. I bought the Yokohama Geolander most of all for the truckish look they have... But if you go this way, may i suggest you to use the chalk test to not overinflate them... 35psi is way too much. The overall is good but as you probably know, 2dr is a kind of drift machine!
I run the Geolanders too. Great winter traction and priced right too.
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i drive to bc regularly and wanted to make sure i wasn't going to get a ticket while driving the passes. was trying to figure out a tire that would be awesome in the summer for off-roading and well... trying to save a few bucks and try and get a tire that was good in the winter as well.

i bought the duratracs and am in love. they're awesome in the mud and rocks when playing in the summer and fantastic in rain and snow. ice... just keep your distance, no tire is amazing on ice.
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Hey folks
...I live in Quebec, Canada I am required by law to have 4 winter tires with the embossed snowflake mountain symbol.

What tire would you recommend I get for winter?
There are a lot of tires with the mountain/snowflake symbol to choose from to make you 'legal'.

If there are many days in a row below freezing where you live (read; ICE) and you want to be safe, then something like the Nokians are an excellent choice.

We tend to have a bit of winter here where I live and the mountain/snowflake symbols is not enough for 'legal' winter tires. (the manufacturer can put that on any tire they want to)

If you are interested in what tires are legal and considered a true winter tire here then here is a link (in English):

http://stro.se/wp-content/uploads/20...neweng_reg.pdf

If we run a tire that is not on this list and have an accident there will be problems with the police and the insurance company. (read: BIG COST)
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It is absolutely true that a dedicated winter tire is FAR safer than a year-round tire with the snow flake. The cheapest Les Schwab soft compound snow tire will outperform a Duratrac all day long on hard packed snow or ice.
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If you want 1 tire for year round use I'd say Duratracs no question. Otherwise Hakkapeliitta's, Cooper discoverer M+s would be my choices. I personally will be running studded duratracs this winter due to the size that I want and the fact that I want a more aggressive tread for winter wheeling.
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I am living in Montreal. I prefer GY wrangler silent armor 255/75/R17 for the winter. The other all season tires without mountain snowflake symbol can be used to off-road in summer. It is good way for tires protection by changing position and checking tire once time in one year during season tire changing. So it is not good choosing by buying GY wrangler Duratrac tires once for all season.
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I am living in Montreal. I prefer GY wrangler silent armor 255/75/R17 for the winter. The other all season tires without mountain snowflake symbol can be used to off-road in summer. It is good way for tires protection by changing position and checking tire once time in one year during season tire changing. So it is not good choosing by buying GY wrangler Duratrac tires once for all season.
You should be rotating tires more than once a year anyways, that gives you the chance to inspect the wheel/tire combo plus everything in behind them. I's be rotating tires every 10,000km or so to avoid premature wear, take them off check them out, rotate them around and re install.
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The OP has a Sahara, I think that has 18" rims right? Also are you driving on the road or off?
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Hey fellow Canadian! I'm in manitoba but I just can't believe I'm reading this right. In Quebec is it really a law that you need winter tires? That's quite communistic if you ask me haha. takes away from your own choice. But sorry I cant help you with what tire to get, just never really looked into them.
Law in BC too.

Winter tires or carry chains Oct 1st thru Apr 30th.
Nothing communistic about it.
It is driven by the insurance industry and their desire to reduce winter accidents, claims and fatalities.

I drive a plow truck all winter here and the Police actually photo the tires of any vehicle in the ditch. If you are driving without winter grips... your insurer can refuse to cover your claim.
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I run Yokohama Geolanders in the stock Rubi size. Great winter tires are not built for year round use and the tread pattern is quite fine, not aggressive, with many sipes.

You get traction on snow by packing that fine tread and the sipes with snow which sticks together like a snowball. Not by throwing it aggressively like a Mud Terrain Tire would. Throwing the snow aggressively will just bury you in a hole... or 4 holes.
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I just installed Nokian Hakkapeliitta LT2. Haven't tried them in the snow yet.
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i drive to bc regularly and wanted to make sure i wasn't going to get a ticket while driving the passes. was trying to figure out a tire that would be awesome in the summer for off-roading and well... trying to save a few bucks and try and get a tire that was good in the winter as well.

i bought the duratracs and am in love. they're awesome in the mud and rocks when playing in the summer and fantastic in rain and snow. ice... just keep your distance, no tire is amazing on ice.
Dedicated winter tires work better in winter conditions. But as you say...DTs are great three seasons.
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If you are going to get a set for the winter get proper winter tires rather than Duratracs.

If you are going to just have one set get the Duratracs.
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The Blizzaks are a great tire on hard pack and ice. Water is the evil and all those fine sipes suck the water iff the road letting the soft winter compound stick to the ice. And they do stick.

Other tips for driving on ice... start off in second gear, not first and if you use low range, start in third or fourth in a Rubicon if you want to lock everything up. But in most cases you will get better traction in 4H than 4L locked.

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