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Old 04-01-2012, 07:21 AM   #1
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Question on Ace rock rails

So I've been looking into a set of rails & I really like the way the Ace rails look, but be honest, are they kinda more for looks than really protecting my Jeep when doing some decent wheeling/crawling with lots of rocks? Some of the guys say they prefer rails that attach to the frame, are they just talking smack or is it true?

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So I've been looking into a set of rails & I really like the way the Ace rails look, but be honest, are they kinda more for looks than really protecting my Jeep when doing some decent wheeling/crawling with lots of rocks? Some of the guys say they prefer rails that attach to the frame, are they just talking smack or is it true?
Ace now make frame rails
Not sure of the availability yet ?

Good question though.

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Ace now make frame rails
Not sure of the availability yet ?

Good question though.
Looked & didn't see anything. Did they post em here?
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So I've been looking into a set of rails & I really like the way the Ace rails look, but be honest, are they kinda more for looks than really protecting my Jeep when doing some decent wheeling/crawling with lots of rocks? Some of the guys say they prefer rails that attach to the frame, are they just talking smack or is it true?
Do you mean the ACE rock sliders, the ones that double as steps? If so, they're plenty strong.

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Do you mean the ACE rock sliders, the ones that double as steps? If so, they're plenty strong.

Yep - those are the ones.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:41 AM   #6
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In confused . . . Don't the ace rails bolt to the frame?
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So I've been looking into a set of rails & I really like the way the Ace rails look, but be honest, are they kinda more for looks than really protecting my Jeep when doing some decent wheeling/crawling with lots of rocks? Some of the guys say they prefer rails that attach to the frame, are they just talking smack or is it true?
"Some guys" VS: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/ace...ils-65607.html
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In confused . . . Don't the ace rails bolt to the frame?
I kinda figured they did too, they attach where the factory side steps attach, i would assume that is to the frame but I've never looked. Do some other brand have 3 attachment points on a JK? Maybe thats what they didn't like.
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In confused . . . Don't the ace rails bolt to the frame?
Yes, and they are far from 'for show" though they do look awesome.
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I kinda figured they did too, they attach where the factory side steps attach, i would assume that is to the frame but I've never looked. Do some other brand have 3 attachment points on a JK? Maybe thats what they didn't like.
Maybe if they did some internet searches and say, poked around on a great forum like this one they would be better informed! LOL
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:56 AM   #11
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Yea well you know how boys can get - the mine's better than your's kinda thing. . I figured no ones really seen a set so they were kinda talking smack.

I've been wanting a set forever and I'm ready to do it so I figured I throw it out there and remove any doubt. The price is just so damn good.
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I wonder if they're thinking about tub armor, like JCR, Poison Spyder, or PureJeep? The Ace sliders don't provide that. They may also be assuming that the aces attach to the body like the Sahara side steps, which I don't believe they do. Ace has published pics showing jeeps with both wheels on one side being lifted off the ground by a forklift pushing up on the rails. They'll hold up fine.
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The ACE rails bolt to the frame mounts on the underside of the Jeep. You can even get a 3rd frame mount added, if you want.

Rock Sliders

The only annoyance with them, and it's minor, is the need to grind the washers during install. Go for it, Sueby.
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I wonder too Mike. But I haven't seen a single bad thing posted about them so - PM sent to Jason. I wanna go out with these guys but I won't go where they go with those stupid factory side step things on my ride.
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FYI.

It's the new rails that are welded to the frame I was taking about. I believe KRAWL posted.

Edit- and I see them on that link

I hope they are durable, cause you gonna have a hellova time removing
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It's the new rails that are welded to the frame I was taking about. I believe KRAWL posted.

Edit- and I see them on that link

I hope they are durable, cause you gonna have a hellova time removing
Edit - never mind - didn't see kbwwolfs post....
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I'm looking into the ACE rock sliders as well. Installing my Bushwacker flat flares this weekend and my factory side step isn't gonna match w/ them very well. Also the factory step is just a "mud holder" when off roading. I'm ready to get rid of it.
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I tell you what, I broke my front axle, and my ace rock rails have been holding up just fine to the abuse I put them too. I suspect any wheeling you might do that would actually break the ace rails would be breaking a whole lot more than the ace rails.

the only reason not to get ace is if you don't like the looks, or you prefer a tub style rock guard instead (tub style would look a bit cleaner, makes the body a bit thinner than the ace). other than that, no reason not to go ace. best price out there, and install is so easy anyone can do it
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I am not sold on their design for the sliders at least with only two bars. I think if they added a third bar similar to the Smittybilt it would be a lot better. Plus you almost have to buy rubi rails to make them look right without showing the seam too much. Maybe seeing them in person would make a difference but still not liking what I see in the pics. They may be strong but just not finished looking. Not a value when you have to buy Rubi rails to make them look finished. IDK Still on fence on what to get
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JKUs get three rails, and they have a kit where you can buy a rail and attach it yourself.

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I am not sold on their design for the sliders at least with only two bars. I think if they added a third bar similar to the Smittybilt it would be a lot better. Plus you almost have to buy rubi rails to make them look right without showing the seam too much. Maybe seeing them in person would make a difference but still not liking what I see in the pics. They may be strong but just not finished looking. IDK Still on fence on what to get

like I said, only reason not to go for it is the looks. I would love to find a posting by someone who broke their ace rails. Funny, i've seen a few people mention how they've seen the rails bend, or theyve seen them do damage to the tub, but no one has ever posted personally about it? Would love to be proven wrong though, never hurts to get more information. ACE has sold tons of these, and everyone who owns them loves them. I think the only time i've seen a set for sale is someone upgrading the 4door rails, since the first version didnt have all 3 attachment points
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I went with Body Armor because of how they mount, after I decided what look I wanted I found these. They mount to the pinch seem and tub, they are very strong and give a lot of protection.
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I have the Rubi rails and it appears the ACE rock rails mount under them nicely, correct?
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I have the Rubi rails and it appears the ACE rock rails mount under them nicely, correct?
Yup, I have my rubi rails on and the ACE rock rails. Looks great.

Only thing with the ACE rails, as someone already said. Make sure you have a good grinder with some new wheels to grind the washers down. For me that was a pain in the ass.
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Well I got them in and on & I'm happy with them so far. Won't be doing any wheeling till next weekend but I really have no doubts. They look pretty good, much better than that stupid side step that was on there, but it does look like something is missing with the seam there. I'm going to look into the Bushwacker sill guards that were mentioned on the board a day or two ago. I think they'd work perfectly.

They did have a decent sized nick in them, but I don't really care, I'm sure I'll be doing better than that to 'em myself so it's all good. They arrived at my door in less than a week, took about 1/2 hour to grind the washers down & do the whole install. The trickiest part was the back frame bolts, they didn't want to come out or go back in for some reason, took a little messing around, but no biggie.
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for folks that may be putting these rails through the paces, I recommend just retorqueing them as part of you pre-wheeling check. either a breaker bar and just twistening them, or getting out the torque wrench and knocking them to 125 ft/lbs.

its probably not needed, especially if you use loctite, but I know some folks like hearing what other folks do, and since I carry a full set of tools with me to the trail, its one thing on my to do list!
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My Ace install had some difficulty getting the bolts back in...you just have to keep pushing and turning. I never had rails or steps on before and yeah, that seam does make it look like something is missing. Looking for Rubi take offs or maybe Plastidip the seam. Someone on the Plastidippin thread did that and it looks pretty good. Can always bedline the seam too.
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Good ideas. Thanks.


Here they are:
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Waiting on rock rails and ace will be next.
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i can honestly say those ACE rails are freaking bullet proof. wheeling today Rob had thrown them on, and on more than one occasion, the front of his JK was about 2 feet off the ground... then came those ACE rails.

holy crap! badass product.

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