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Old 01-24-2013, 09:23 PM   #61
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That's where I was going with my earlier post. The 0-2 are close to stock in length. A waste with 2"
Are you saying there is no need to replace stock shocks w/ a 2" lift?

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Rancho 2" Sport Lift Installed

The reasons to replace shocks for a 2" lift is better ride and articulation. I actually think the 9000XLs are longer than stock as well, but I don't know by how much. I'm pretty sure that they will travel more than the stock shocks. Plus having the ability to dial in the level of firmness you want based on your driving conditions is a huge plus.


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So here is the info for the 2 door and 4 door:

2 door:
RS66108BR5 or RS66108BR9 - 2dr JK - 2" system - 2007-2013.

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RS66109BR5 / RS66109BR9 4dr JK 2007-2013


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RS66109 has a .75" spacer in the rear
RS66108 has a 1.75" spacer in the rear
I don't get it...I just went on the Rancho website and did a lift looksee at the 2" sport kit. It shows part RS66109 for my 2012 2 door but you stated the RS66109 as correct? No guidance for RS66108 with the larger rear spacer on the rancho site...
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I don't get it...I just went on the Rancho website and did a lift looksee at the 2" sport kit. It shows part RS66109 for my 2012 2 door but you stated the RS66109 as correct? No guidance for RS66108 with the larger rear spacer on the rancho site...
We are in the process of updating the site AND doing some tweeks as well. Should have more info Feb 1.
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We are in the process of updating the site AND doing some tweeks as well. Should have more info Feb 1.
Tweaks to the kit itself? PLEASE ask the engineers to swap out the rear spacers for actual matching coils. If you do that, I would definitely recommend this kit to other people (based mostly on the quality of the adjustable shocks).

As it stands, though, I have to recommend something else that doesn't mix stock and aftermarket coils...
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Tweaks to the kit itself? PLEASE ask the engineers to swap out the rear spacers for actual matching coils. If you do that, I would definitely recommend this kit to other people (based mostly on the quality of the adjustable shocks).

As it stands, though, I have to recommend something else that doesn't mix stock and aftermarket coils...
Agreed! Even if it was closer to $500-600 it would be one of the better kits based on the shocks alone. I did not buy from you for that specific reason
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:56 PM   #67
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Rancho 2" Sport Lift Installed

Well, my 2" Sport Lift just shipped and will be here Tuesday. I'm stoked. You can't beat it for the money with the 9000XLs and I didn't want to go higher than 2" so it's easy to tow behind my RV. The spacer will be fine to level it out.


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Old 01-25-2013, 08:09 PM   #68
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Rancho RS66109BR5 Suspension SystemSold by: Amazon.com LLC

  • Guessing I should cancel and wait to see what Feb 1st brings.
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ahhh, im soo close to pulling the trigger on this.

Rancho, can you say what "Tweeks" your working on? should i wait till feb 1st to order?
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This is a great kit that looks awesome with 33" tires. Rides great too. I just had the misfortune of ordering the 4 door kit instead of the 2. There wasn't a choice you could select on Amazon between the two so be careful ordering.
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Anyway tried 35 with this kit
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Tweaks to the kit itself? PLEASE ask the engineers to swap out the rear spacers for actual matching coils. If you do that, I would definitely recommend this kit to other people (based mostly on the quality of the adjustable shocks).

As it stands, though, I have to recommend something else that doesn't mix stock and aftermarket coils...
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I'd definitely be interested in this lift, if it came with matching coils instead of rear spacers. I'm trying to find a good quality full suspension lift (shocks/springs) for 33" tires. I may have to go with a 2.5" lift, but most of them seem to be designed more for the 35" tires.
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I'd definitely be interested in this lift, if it came with matching coils instead of rear spacers. I'm trying to find a good quality full suspension lift (shocks/springs) for 33" tires. I may have to go with a 2.5" lift, but most of them seem to be designed more for the 35" tires.
Unless Rancho changes this kit, your best bet is probably to grab a complete set of four 2" coils from OME or TF, and then simply add the four Rancho 9000xl shocks separately.

It would certainly be nice to see Rancho release their own proper kit, though!
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And the option for the 4" lift shocks
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:11 PM   #75
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The kit comes with the 4" rear shocks (part number ending in 30). You would only need to upgrade the fronts if you wanted to go higher than 2".

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Unless Rancho changes this kit, your best bet is probably to grab a complete set of four 2" coils from OME or TF, and then simply add the four Rancho 9000xl shocks separately.

It would certainly be nice to see Rancho release their own proper kit, though!
I started out looking at spacer/leveling kits, but decided I would rather have a full suspension lift (shocks/springs). I didn't realize that all of the kits out there are 2.5" or more.
I was really hoping to find a full suspension lift that wouldn't make 33's (285/70/R17) look too small.
Besides that.... just about every 2.5" lift I have looked at, gives you alot more than an actual 2.5 inches of lift on a 2-door (stock bumpers/no winch).

I checked out the OME 2" lift (with the light/medium springs), but from the people I have talked to, it's basically a 2.5-3" lift also.
I'm researching the Teraflex 'Performance' 1.5" leveling kit right now, with plans to add better shocks.
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Thanks for starting this thread. I purchased the 2" kit last fall, and when it was installed the front end was way higher than the rear, the shop did not understand why and didn't know how to correct it.

So I asked the shop if they could add a larger spacer in the rear which they did i believe it was an 1 3/4".

In the end the front end was about a 1/2" taller than the rear.

After installing an Offroad bumper and winch it dropped the front a quarter inch or so.

I never understood why all this happened till now. 4 wheel parts installed the 1 3/4" spacer in the front.

I love the lift and the ride, I only wish I would have gotten the 900 shocks, instead of the 500. At the time I was on a budget and got the lift and installation for just under $500.00.

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P. S. it's not normally this clean, I just washed her.
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Thanks for starting this thread. I purchased the 2" kit last fall, and when it was installed the front end was way higher than the rear, the shop did not understand why and didn't know how to correct it.

So I asked the shop if they could add a larger spacer in the rear which they did i believe it was an 1 3/4".

In the end the front end was about a 1/2" taller than the rear.

After installing an Offroad bumper and winch it dropped the front a quarter inch or so.

I never understood why all this happened till now. 4 wheel parts installed the 1 3/4" spacer in the front.

I love the lift and the ride, I only wish I would have gotten the 900 shocks, instead of the 500. At the time I was on a budget and got the lift and installation for just under $500.00.

This is how the jeep sits now.
P. S. it's not normally this clean, I just washed her.
All of that could be solved, and you could rid yourself of all the spacers, with a proper set of four 2" coils.

Rancho should seriously consider this a problem...
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The price is what makes this kit great.
They would have to increase the price if rear coils were added.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:39 PM   #80
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The price is what makes this kit great.
They would have to increase the price if rear coils were added.
I'm sorry bro, but I have to disagree. The price is "great," sure, but the kit itself certainly is not. You could cut the price half, again, and the kit itself would still be seriously flawed.

I'm fairly confident that most would rather pay $50-$100 dollars more to avoid all the issues and headaches caused by mixing stock and aftermarket coils, and then having to chase an elusive proper stance by adding spacers all over the Jeep. Throw in the fact that stock coils tend to sag over time, and the entire setup becomes a total disaster.

They could avoid all of that by simply adding a matching set of rear coils instead of rear spacers. If that costs a few dollars more, then so be it.

I simply cannot recommend this kit, as is, to anyone. The adjustable shocks? Absolutely! But, the rear setup needs to be re-worked...
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I did not say the kit was great. It is a good "starter" kit for the price.
Essentially you are paying for the shocks and maybe the coils. The option to add rear coils/longer shocks would come at the buyers expense.
I think we all agree, the price is what makes this kit interesting.
Slap a $600 price tag on it, it now fits right in with all the other entry level kits.
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:07 PM   #82
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I did not say the kit was great. It is a good "starter" kit for the price.
Essentially you are paying for the shocks and maybe the coils. The option to add rear coils/longer shocks would come at the buyers expense.
I think we all agree, the price is what makes this kit interesting.
Slap a $600 price tag on it, it now fits right in with all the other entry level kits.
I won't argue except to say that your initial statement was that the price is what makes "this KIT great."

"Interesting" is a much better word choice!

I also disagree that this is a good starter kit. It causes more headaches than it's worth.

That said, I think you and I both know that matching linear rear coils would not add $200 to the price.

The main problem is that they don't even offer matching rear coils as an optional upgrade. Hell, I think everyone would be satisfied if they just did that!
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I'm going to jump in here.....
I would rather spend more money for matching rear coils.
Without them, I will not consider this lift as an option for me.

But, I'm also in a situation where I have limited options......
I'm not real impressed with the factory suspension, so I'm trying to stay away from a spacer lift with factory springs/shocks.
I'd like to stay with a 33" tire (285/70/R17) and also have improved ride/handling.
The 2.5" lifts on the 2-doors(stock bumpers/no winch) seem to be more suited for 35's.
Alot of them make 33's look too small.

So my search/research continues......
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Thanks for starting this thread. I purchased the 2" kit last fall, and when it was installed the front end was way higher than the rear, the shop did not understand why and didn't know how to correct it.

So I asked the shop if they could add a larger spacer in the rear which they did i believe it was an 1 3/4".

In the end the front end was about a 1/2" taller than the rear.

After installing an Offroad bumper and winch it dropped the front a quarter inch or so.

I never understood why all this happened till now. 4 wheel parts installed the 1 3/4" spacer in the front.

I love the lift and the ride, I only wish I would have gotten the 900 shocks, instead of the 500. At the time I was on a budget and got the lift and installation for just under $500.00.

This is how the jeep sits now.
P. S. it's not normally this clean, I just washed her.
Ha! Ha! My shop guy said my jeep looked like it was taking off for the moon. I'm eating on my 1.75 spacer from rancho now... I'm starting to did the gangsta lean though!
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So my search/research continues......
I think Synergy Suspension makes some great coils that you could combine with some Rancho 9000xl shocks for a decent starter setup on a 2dr, specifically.

These Synergy springs provide 1" lift on 4dr, and 2" on 2dr!

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http://www.quadratec.com/products/16315_8008.htm

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I started out looking at spacer/leveling kits, but decided I would rather have a full suspension lift (shocks/springs). I didn't realize that all of the kits out there are 2.5" or more.
I was really hoping to find a full suspension lift that wouldn't make 33's (285/70/R17) look too small.
Besides that.... just about every 2.5" lift I have looked at, gives you alot more than an actual 2.5 inches of lift on a 2-door (stock bumpers/no winch).

I checked out the OME 2" lift (with the light/medium springs), but from the people I have talked to, it's basically a 2.5-3" lift also.
I'm researching the Teraflex 'Performance' 1.5" leveling kit right now, with plans to add better shocks.
Interested as well,shorter wife lift needs to not be too high and really do not want to do more than 33's on my sport. Where in MO are you?
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Interested as well,shorter wife lift needs to not be too high and really do not want to do more than 33's on my sport. Where in MO are you?
I just posted a solution in the post right above yours...
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I just posted a solution in the post right above yours...
Sorry Mr. Horse was commenting maybe Rancho would consider a different package setup. Have only had two jeeps and this one is alot different than the other. Love your build just a little out of my budget until Summer.
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I think Synergy Suspension makes some great coils that you could combine with some Rancho 9000xl shocks for a decent starter setup on a 2dr, specifically.

These Synergy springs provide 1" lift on 4dr, and 2" on 2dr!

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OK then what else would you need to add for completeness? LCA's?
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OK then what else would you need to add for completeness? LCA's?
MAYBE add the AEV Geometry Correction Brackets, JKS Quick Disconnects, and some front Spring Clips? (~ $975 total with the Synergy coils and Rancho shocks).

The stock trackbars and LCAs should work just fine with 2" of lift, or less.

Then again, if you were willing to do the above all at once, I'd just recommend the AEV 2.5" Dualsport XT with Geo Correction Brackets instead ($1000 total), and be done with it.

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