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Old 05-20-2013, 11:08 AM   #1
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Rancho 3" trail kit- too good to pass up? Please advise!

The Rancho 3" trail kit (comes with front track bar and rear track bar brackets) is listed on sale at my local shop for $899 (sale price) and then I can use the $300 off mail in rebate. I wasn't considering this kit...I had my mind set up on the Metalcloak dual spring unlimited 2.5 inch lift kit that came with the front track bar and rear brackets for $1199.

Both kits come with front upper control arms and could be built out. The Rancho kit is $600 cheaper than the Metalcloak but I need an exhaust crossover and possibly extended shock brackets if I retain my stock shocks for now. How will these lifts compare in quality and bombproofness? Will the MC outperform the Rancho by a large margin on road and off road? The Rancho has a lifetime warranty.

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I am considering this kit as well. I'm pretty sure that to get the $300 you will need to buy 4 Rancho 9000 shocks as well. which will bring you in closer to the metal cloak pricing prior to the MIR.

From what I have read both of them have an excellent reputation. I like the Rancho trail kit because its red... Stupid I know, but it will look sexy under my black & red 10A Wrangler...

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I am considering this kit as well. I'm pretty sure that to get the $300 you will need to buy 4 Rancho 9000 shocks as well. which will bring you in closer to the metal cloak pricing prior to the MIR.

From what I have read both of them have an excellent reputation. I like the Rancho trail kit because its red... Stupid I know, but it will look sexy under my black & red 10A Wrangler...

Correct you need to pair the system with a Rancho shock of your choice.
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I have the 3" Trail lift on my 13 Rubicon. A very nice installation, although I have the same rodend nut issue on the front track bar others have spoke about. The length on mine is correct however. I have installed the 9000 shocks as well and the two work well together. I had 9000s on my TJ and loved them. The lift is closer to 4" initially. I bought the exhaust crossover Rancho offers, to deal with the driveshaft interference, but I don't want the crossover being the lowest thing under the Jeep in that spot, so I think I'm going to replace the driveshaft with a Tom Woods.
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I have the 3" Trail lift on my 13 Rubicon. A very nice installation, although I have the same rodend nut issue on the front track bar others have spoke about. The length on mine is correct however. I have installed the 9000 shocks as well and the two work well together. I had 9000s on my TJ and loved them. The lift is closer to 4" initially. I bought the exhaust crossover Rancho offers, to deal with the driveshaft interference, but I don't want the crossover being the lowest thing under the Jeep in that spot, so I think I'm going to replace the driveshaft with a Tom Woods.

I'm pretty sure regardless of drive shaft you still need to do the exhaust extension.
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I have the 3" Trail lift on my 13 Rubicon. A very nice installation, although I have the same rodend nut issue on the front track bar others have spoke about. The length on mine is correct however. I have installed the 9000 shocks as well and the two work well together. I had 9000s on my TJ and loved them. The lift is closer to 4" initially. I bought the exhaust crossover Rancho offers, to deal with the driveshaft interference, but I don't want the crossover being the lowest thing under the Jeep in that spot, so I think I'm going to replace the driveshaft with a Tom Woods.
Can you elaborate on the rod end nut issue? This is new to me.
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Can you elaborate on the rod end nut issue? This is new to me.

We were off on the track bar by "that much". This made the jam nut not keep the heim in place. It was about 12 systems, I know of 8 that have been addressed. We send out the correct trackbar to those effected. YOu can call our Tech line 734-384-7804 or PM me.
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I'm pretty sure regardless of drive shaft you still need to do the exhaust extension.
A smaller diameter driveshaft eliminates the problem.
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oh, ok that makes sense!
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I was one of theones with a replaced track bar. I installed the 3'' sport kit. It rides great and do not have enough good to say about this kit. paired with the 9000 shocks, I think its a great deal. especially with the 300 dollar rebate.
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Whats the actual lift on a JKU with the weight gain goodies (front bumper, winch, rear bumper, etc.)
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Stock, I got 4'' in the front and 3 in the rear. Took the rake out and site level.

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If you aren't gung ho about supporting the little guy, amazon has it for 800$.

http://www.amazon.com/Rancho-RS66107...I2DL2J9IANGJLE

The 3" Trail kit is my plan sometime next year
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Stock, I got 4'' in the front and 3 in the rear. Took the rake out and site level.

Hmmm, that might be a little high. Im planning on getting 35s sometime in the near future, and already have a Teraflex leveling kit. I'd like to avoid a lift if possible but don't want to rub, so I may go with flatties first. I would like to upgrade my shocks, but don't want to replace them if I do decide to lift, so can I run the 3" shocks without having a 3" lift?
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If you aren't gung ho about supporting the little guy, amazon has it for 800$.

Rancho RS66107 Suspension System : Amazon.com : Automotive

The 3" Trail kit is my plan sometime next year
That's exactly the deal I was looking at.
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I got my system from amazon, shocks too. Great pricing, and had it two days later without paying for speedy delivery.
As far as having 3'' lift shocks on a stock set up. I wouldnt. You could possibly damage a shock. If your looing for an upgrade, definatly go with the rancho 9000's.

I dont think I have read a bad review. I am running them on both my Tj and Jk.
I would add the flat fenders first. They give a great deal of clearance. I like the look of a lifted vehicle, so thats what I went for. I also have installed flat fenders since that pic.

If after installing the 35's you need a little more, you can always get a BB if you need.
I was trying to decide between a 2.5 and a 4'' lift. I am glad I saw the post for the 3'' lift.
very happy with the ride and off road performance.
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Well at 850 for this lift after the rebate I am thinking it may in fact be too good to pass up. I don't read a lot about Rancho lifts and was really leaning toward a 2.5 from teraflex or metalcloak game-changer lite, or even AEV but this 850 is at worst a grand cheaper and more in the metalcloak case. Wow.

Is there some quality or performance issue with them or are they just an extremely good deal right now?

Trail 3" lift in red with 9000 series shocks. Red accents will look good on my 10th Anniversary.
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Well at 850 for this lift after the rebate I am thinking it may in fact be too good to pass up. I don't read a lot about Rancho lifts and was really leaning toward a 2.5 from teraflex or metalcloak game-changer lite, or even AEV but this 850 is at worst a grand cheaper and more in the metalcloak case. Wow.

Is there some quality or performance issue with them or are they just an extremely good deal right now?

Trail 3" lift in red with 9000 series shocks. Red accents will look good on my 10th Anniversary.
actually just did the math and with Amazon points from my Amazon card it would be right around 800 shipped...
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I got my system from amazon, shocks too. Great pricing, and had it two days later without paying for speedy delivery.
As far as having 3'' lift shocks on a stock set up. I wouldnt. You could possibly damage a shock. If your looing for an upgrade, definatly go with the rancho 9000's.

I dont think I have read a bad review. I am running them on both my Tj and Jk.
I would add the flat fenders first. They give a great deal of clearance. I like the look of a lifted vehicle, so thats what I went for. I also have installed flat fenders since that pic.

If after installing the 35's you need a little more, you can always get a BB if you need.
I was trying to decide between a 2.5 and a 4'' lift. I am glad I saw the post for the 3'' lift.
very happy with the ride and off road performance.
I was definitely going with the 9000 shocks. So rancho, which 9000s do I want for a Teraflex leveling kit equipped JKU (2" front 1" rear?)
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Anyone else have the 3" trail lift with 9000xl shocks that would like to share a review?
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I was definitely going with the 9000 shocks. So rancho, which 9000s do I want for a Teraflex leveling kit equipped JKU (2" front 1" rear?)
0-2" 26xl front and 28xl rear
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The Rancho 3" trail kit (comes with front track bar and rear track bar brackets) is listed on sale at my local shop for $899 (sale price) and then I can use the $300 off mail in rebate. I wasn't considering this kit...I had my mind set up on the Metalcloak dual spring unlimited 2.5 inch lift kit that came with the front track bar and rear brackets for $1199.

Both kits come with front upper control arms and could be built out. The Rancho kit is $600 cheaper than the Metalcloak but I need an exhaust crossover and possibly extended shock brackets if I retain my stock shocks for now. How will these lifts compare in quality and bombproofness? Will the MC outperform the Rancho by a large margin on road and off road? The Rancho has a lifetime warranty.
I just ordered the 3" sport lift and 4 RS9000 shocks, along with the cross over pipe and a Superchips Flashcal. Got it all for $1100 shipped, and with the rebate, the lift comes out to about $600 with the shocks, can't beat that with a stick.
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I just ordered the 3" sport lift and 4 RS9000 shocks, along with the cross over pipe and a Superchips Flashcal. Got it all for $1100 shipped, and with the rebate, the lift comes out to about $600 with the shocks, can't beat that with a stick.

Hey Troy,

Where did you order from? Amazon has the 3" lift rs66107 ($865), 4 9000xl shocks($89.22ea.) and Flashcal ($159) for $1381.
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Does anyone know the part #s I would need for the 9000 shocks that would match their 3 inch trail lift? When I looked I could only find shocks for 0 - 2" or ones for 4".

Also, does the 3 inch trail lift come with front sway bar disconnects?
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Does anyone know the part #s I would need for the 9000 shocks that would match their 3 inch trail lift? When I looked I could only find shocks for 0 - 2" or ones for 4".

Also, does the 3 inch trail lift come with front sway bar disconnects?
I would do the longer 4" 31xl and 32xl
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Does anyone know the part #s I would need for the 9000 shocks that would match their 3 inch trail lift? When I looked I could only find shocks for 0 - 2" or ones for 4".

Also, does the 3 inch trail lift come with front sway bar disconnects?
It does not come with disconnects. The P/N from us is RS6756B

For shocks you can run the longer ones or these:
RS999329XL (front)
RS999330XL (rear)
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For those of you curious about Rancho, here's the deal. Metalcloak, Teraflex, AEV are all specialized Jeep only companies. Think good firms, but small, limited market.

Rancho not only covers most 4 wheel drive vehicles, they are also owned by Tenneco. Tenneco is a major OEM parts supplier to Detroit. So Rancho has the financial backing and R&D resources the smaller guys do not. I know for a fact that Ford uses Rancho shocks as an off-road upgrade on some of it's trucks, and have heard (unconfirmed) that Tenneco makes the factory Sahara and Rubicon shocks.

Rancho has also been in business for a very long time. This means a lot when you are talking about the value of lifetime warranties.

No I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just a satisfied customer.

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I just installed the 3" trail kit that I ordered during their promotion last year (yes, it took me that long to get around to installing it...). I purchased it with the RS9000 shocks as well. I love the lift and the ride, but it has been a bit of a chore to get everything to work out properly.

-Rancho initially sent me 2 incomplete kits that were missing one of the UCAs. I sent the first one back, they sent a new one, and it was still missing. Finally, they sent just the missing UCA and all was well.
-Mine was one of the kits with the longer track bar. They sent the shorter one with 2-day shipping after a brief phone call.
-The front UCAs are at their minimum length on my setup, and it's giving me only ~3.9° of caster. I was really hoping to be able to dial in ~5°, but the arms seem to be too long for my Jeep. I haven't read about any one else having this issue, and the Jeep seems to ride OK as is.
-One of my heim joints squeaks like a mo-fo. It's driving me crazy. I've checked the torque on all the components, and it's still there. I've tried using some dry-lube to quite it down and that hasn't worked yet, and it's a strange issue for me. It always seems to squeak to some extent, but some days are waaay worse, others it seems to barely squeak at all.

All-in-all, I'm pretty satisfied (other than the freaking squeaking!). It performs well and it's a great kit for the money. I can honestly say that you can buy with confidence from Rancho. Through all the issues that I've had, the customer support has been amazing. Matt has been incredibly responsive and helpful getting any problems taken care of, and their engineers/technicians in California have been great with my questions.

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