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Old 08-07-2013, 05:14 PM   #1
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First... a thank you to Rancho for giving me the opportunity to try out and review these.
This is Rancho's version of the control arm drop bracket. Now I know there was a older version and I'm not sure the change. Rancho was the original innovator of the drop bracket. AEV used cam bolts before their bracket was introduced


I am impressed. The brackets are a one piece design and put together well. The welds/coating look amazing. Great job !!

I was told these are made for lifts in the 3-3.5" range but will work at 2.5"
I may be wrong here but lower lifts will achieve more positive caster. The higher you go, too much caster is not a good thing-esp with a aftermarket DS and pinion angle.

These brackets are pure beef compared to AEV's. I would not worry a bit dragging across a rock

I've yet to read any failure stories about the AEV brackets, but one thing I noticed comparing the two.
The Rancho brackets together are the same width as a control arm joint and fit right into the factory mount. The AEV brackets-one bracket fits inside and the other outside of the factory mount. I would think this design to be a lot stronger.

Rancho .. Unlike AEV... Supply's the 12mm passenger upper CA bolt. This bolt needs to be cut out because the exhaust is in the way and can't be removed. For the AEV brackets, I had to source this bolt

Price is going to be $130-$150 according to Rancho.
A bit more on the cost but built better/stronger and I don't think AEV used shouldered bolts which would add to the cost.

As soon as the brackets get installed I will update the thread with my thoughts.
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Looks STOUT! Can't wait to hear what you think about them.

Let me know if you need someone to relieve you of the AEV brackets you have...I may "know someone" that could use them ...just sayin'...

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Odd, we did not have that bolt issue when my buddy installed the AEVs. These do look stout. I wonder if they will make my new Elkas look fat.
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Looks STOUT! Can't wait to hear what you think about them.

Let me know if you need someone to relieve you of the AEV brackets you have...I may "know someone" that could use them ...just sayin'...
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Odd, we did not have that bolt issue when my buddy installed the AEVs. These do look stout. I wonder if they will make my new Elkas look fat.
Maybe the 12-14 jeeps have more clearance ?
AEV instructs you to "pry" the exhaust to get the bolt clearance. Well...... The exhaust maybe moved 1/8" or so.

Wait ..... no you did not. Did you lol
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Lol "noted"
LOL!

Question - do you need to align the jeep after you install something like this?
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take pics side by side with the aev's. it does look more beefier than the aev's. but i'm not saying that aev's aren't weak either.
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LOL!

Question - do you need to align the jeep after you install something like this?
I ran a toe check and it did not change.
Caster is set with the brackets. Nice to know where you are at though. Need it ? No
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those look good, are they available as part of one of their lifts now or is this a new, not yet available part?
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Good to know...once again, thanks for the advice!
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Looking forward to your impressions on these compared to the AEVs after the install. What's the price point?
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take pics side by side with the aev's. it does look more beefier than the aev's. but i'm not saying that aev's aren't weak either.
I will...
These look to be the same thickness but structurally ... Better/stronger.

The 2 brackets are boxed together. Also.... The two sections that bolt into stock mounts are built up. The AEV brackets use crush sleeves. These have a tube like structure that goes in between the factory mounts.
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those look good, are they available as part of one of their lifts now or is this a new, not yet available part?
Good question. I see them pictures in their higher lifts. Rancho will be able to answer this for you.

Price ? Don't quote me on this but I believe they are in the $125-$150 range. More expensive the they are built very well. Also includes the factory 12mm bolt which saves some hassle.
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Good question. I see them pictures in their higher lifts. Rancho will be able to answer this for you.

Price ? Don't quote me on this but I believe they are in the $125-$150 range. More expensive the they are built very well. Also includes the factory 12mm bolt which saves some hassle.
eh, if they are more expensive I'll just stick with AEV. I don't think the AEV brackets are all that susceptible anyway and they are used across the 2.5-3.5 lift range and are obviously stout enough for that.

I still have the Rancho 3" trail system with 9000 shocks in my amazon shopping cart and if they did another rebate deal and these brackets came with the 3" trail system or were available for cheaper then it would be a tough kit to beat for the price.
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You have to see them in person...BEEFY!! Uppers and lowers $400-$600 won't provide the great handling characteristics drop brackets provide, and being able to take hits and a huge plus.

Def a must with any lift over 3"
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those look good, are they available as part of one of their lifts now or is this a new, not yet available part?
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Looking forward to your impressions on these compared to the AEVs after the install. What's the price point?
$130ISH to $150ISH depending on where you find it.

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Good question. I see them pictures in their higher lifts. Rancho will be able to answer this for you.

Price ? Don't quote me on this but I believe they are in the $125-$150 range. More expensive the they are built very well. Also includes the factory 12mm bolt which saves some hassle.
A few things that set ours apart from others.
Ease of install, this takes about 45 minutes or so not 1.5 hour or so.
Material used, our steel will BEND while others will snap. This material is used in CA in building constructions to withstand (as much as possible) earthquakes.
Boxed for added strength.

Feel free to ask questions as they arise.
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Thanks for chiming in ^^
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I've yet to read any failure stories about the AEV brackets, but one thing I noticed comparing the two.
The Rancho brackets are the same width as a control arm joint and fit right into the factory mount. The AEV brackets-one bracket fits inside and the other outside of the factory mount. I would think this design to be a lot stronger.

Going to add this is my first post
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Rancho was the original innovator of the drop bracket.
I like Rancho as a company... before and after they were bought. Rancho was the first lift on my 1991 Cherokee.

When did they invent the drop arm bracket?

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I think I'll have to stick with the AEV brackets with only a 2.5" lift. Would have been nice if Rancho had the holes for 2.5" lifts like AEV does.
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But.... but.... what about AEV's superior engineering?

Just kidding. These look great. I hope Rancho does well with them. AEV and their fans are always going on about the ride. I'm sure most of it has to do with these brackets.

I'm really glad they're not bright red!
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But.... but.... what about AEV's superior engineering?

Just kidding. These look great. I hope Rancho does well with them. AEV and their fans are always going on about the ride. I'm sure most of it has to do with these brackets.

I'm really glad they're not bright red!
Actually red would go with my scheme
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I like Rancho as a company... before and after they were bought. Rancho was the first lift on my 1991 Cherokee.

When did they invent the drop arm bracket?

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that's a good question. I Remember reading about them on JKF a ways back.
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Installed !!!!

About a hour and a half. That's with removing the AEV brackets as well. No issues whatsoever. Clean install.

Got some cleaning up to do and hopefully go for a drive.
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Nice. BTW, I looked at the the AEV bolts. They are silver- not shouldered though. You probably will not (am curious to know though) notice a difference driving around but the beefier brackets should be useful when landing on them.
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The drive ..
Hmm...... Feels a little bit tighter and more controlled when one tire hits a bump. Driveway pinion angle shows around 1-1.5* which would have caster around 4.5-5* This would tighten up the feel a bit. Hard to give a true comparison without some miles. So far so good, they seem to do what they're supposed to do. That's what matters most
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Nice. BTW, I looked at the the AEV bolts. They are silver- not shouldered though. You probably will not (am curious to know though) notice a difference driving around but the beefier brackets should be useful when landing on them.
Thanks ... My AEV brackets are 3rd hand lol
Bought- installed for a short time and sold. He never used them and sold to me. Original owner used 9/16 shouldered bolts
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Interesting. The beefier brackets probably do translate into a slightly tighter feel. That's great.

Well, the Elkas are definitely softer on slow stuff but tighten up on fast stuff. I am off to drive around for 70-80 miles (roads here are too smooth...have to drive east) and see what I feel. The tire air pressure is the same and we simply replaced the 5100s with the Elkas and put on the AEV Shock Doubler brackets (nice 1.5 inch outward relocation since the passenger side shock would otherwise be just about touching the frame). Oddly, the Elka bodies are even bigger around than the 5100s even though they have the resi. They are some big shocks.

Back to the brackets- they are brilliant.
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Interesting. The beefier brackets probably do translate into a slightly tighter feel. That's great.

Well, the Elkas are definitely softer on slow stuff but tighten up on fast stuff. I am off to drive around for 70-80 miles (roads here are too smooth...have to drive east) and see what I feel. The tire air pressure is the same and we simply replaced the 5100s with the Elkas and put on the AEV Shock Doubler brackets (nice 1.5 inch outward relocation since the passenger side shock would otherwise be just about touching the frame). Oddly, the Elka bodies are even bigger around than the 5100s even though they have the resi. They are some big shocks.

Back to the brackets- they are brilliant.

Glad things are finally turning around for you. If anybody knows how frustrating it can be .... Its me

Oh brackets .... Thanks

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