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Old 12-09-2011, 03:52 PM   #121
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Just curious does the Lemon law require you have an attorney? I would not be happy if I had to hire a laywer on top of everything else you have been through
Having no luck with Chrysler! In VA under the Lemon Law (2011 revision, anyway) Chrysler will be responsible for all Court & Lawyer costs!

Chrysler's promises to call be back never happen, yet Chrysler at this point has no idea why my 2012 has a electronic, electircal engine failure!

But yes, this seems to be just my unit as far as I can find out at this time!

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Old 12-09-2011, 04:39 PM   #122
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1500 miles on mine so far and loving it. No issues at all. Except for noticing that weird paint edge/crack on the fenders. Will take that in for them to fix or at least note. Hoping for no issues like listed in this thread!

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Old 12-09-2011, 04:56 PM   #123
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Having no luck with Chrysler! In VA under the Lemon Law (2011 revision, anyway) Chrysler will be responsible for all Court & Lawyer costs!

Chrysler's promises to call be back never happen, yet Chrysler at this point has no idea why my 2012 has a electronic, electircal engine failure!

But yes, this seems to be just my unit as far as I can find out at this time!
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Got a call at 5:30pm this afternoon, from the Jeep Service Shop, saying my Jeep is fixed?????? Took the poor guys almost 2-weeks to locate this hidden demon and yes, they were doing their BEST?

It was a ground-wire, making contact with whatever?


They separated the two, it then started (believe it or not) and they drove it over 20-mi, no problems.

How the HELL can something so SIMPLE, cause so MUCH trouble and be so damn hard to find? Miles of wiring, covered, shielded and in extremely difficult to get to

Again, this seems to be limited to only my unit as far as I can find out.

Words cannot describe how much I want to get back in my JEEP

Thanks for the kindness and support shown me during this stresssful time

Now, I can install my new "seat-covers" that came while she was in the shop
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:18 PM   #124
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Congrats!!! Glad it was finally figured out
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:42 PM   #125
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A testimony to the fine UAW labor agreements that lazy management has agreed to over the decades !
Actually no. All those agreements were voided by the bankruptcy and completely clean sheet new agreements put in place. Also, the factory in which our Wranglers is built is a completely new factory that was built in 2005-2006 for the new 2007 Wranglers and there was a lot of Daimler input into how it was designed, so there's not a whole lot of legacy insofar as processes are concerned, it's a fairly highly automated factory (well, by Jeep standards ) that *should* be able to produce quality product -- if anybody cared. .

I think one problem is that between Daimler, Cerberus, and the bankruptcy, there was a lot of turmoil for a while. It doesn't help that our JK is basically not a Jeep -- it's a shrunk Dodge pickup truck frame with a Jeep-like body on it, probably the first all-new fresh from-the-ground-up redesign of the "military" style Jeep since 1942 (I swear that any GI mechanic from WW2 who got up under my 2006 LJ could figure out what everything under there did, even if he couldn't figure out *how* the innards of some of those black boxes did what they do). So experienced Jeep assembly workers had to come up basically from scratch, as vs. the evolutionary improvements of previous-generation Wranglers that really *were* derived from the original WW2 Jeep design, just with decades upon decades of incremental changes.

So anyhow, I'm generally satisfied with the quality of my 2012 Rubicon. The only problem I've had thus far is the Chinese water torture (drip... drip... drip... onto my left shoulder). I'll shift the driver's side roof panel around and see if I can fix that myself before turning the dealer loose on it.
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:19 PM   #126
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:17 PM   #127
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Not complaining, chief. Passing along info on a forum designed to pass along info to others. I love my Wrangler, but I wanted others to know how Jeep's fancy commercials and 'new approach' to quality may not always be the case.

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Why dont ya'll go over to JKowners.com and check it out. Its just a different environment on some of the bigger offroad websites. If the guy had a legitimate problem that needed to be fixed then he would have gotten the help he needed. He was simply complaining; a legitimate complaint? Yes, but complaining none the less.

Whether you've been on the bigger sites for 50 years or 5 days complaining will get you nothing more than a hand full of people telling you that you need to dig the sand out of your.... Well, you know. He has complaints about the vehicle but decided to keep it anyway. Now he has come to a website devoted to the vehicle and is telling us how crappy they are. Its not a very good strategy for welcome.

I see where Jkristie is coming from and he is somewhat right. He just isnt used to being censored like ya'll are here and he tells it like it is.

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