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Old 02-15-2009, 03:42 PM   #1
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Hey, I had a few posts here asking about purchasing information on a JK a while back. My dad and I want an all-round vehicle we can use for anything. He recently purchased an older F-150 regular cab 4x4 and is super happy with the 4wheel drive on it.

I was ready to purchase last year, but I looked at the economy and decided to wait, as I knew that Chrysler was going to be hurting and SUV sale prices were going to drastically drop.

Now I'm ready again, and it looks like it paid off. I went to the Jeep website and built a Rubicon, and the out-the-door price they stated was just over 24k. I was originally planning on spending about 24.5k on a decked out X S package.

There's not a local jeep dealer in my area, I'd have to drive an hour or so to find a decent sized one with selection. Is this 24k price on the rubicon something that I'd be able to actually find in the real world? It seems like too good a deal to pass up at that price point.

Or...would it be better to get an X S. package for several thousand less, and spend the leftover money to put a winch on it, with some aftermarket rims and better off-road tires? The winch would come in handy for what we'll be doing.

How much of a difference does the upgraded front axle on the Rubicon really make? I'm not looking to do any super hardcore rock crawling, so would it even be worth it? What about the low range? Is it even useful to have the 4:1 that the rubicon has if I'm not going to do my best impression of a billy goat?

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Old 02-15-2009, 04:54 PM   #2
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I've never heard a Rubicon owner say "man, I wish I would have bought the X model" but have heard many X owners say "I wish I had bought the Rubi"

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Old 02-15-2009, 05:38 PM   #3
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Old 02-15-2009, 05:43 PM   #4
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Yes, I know that people always want the top-end vehicle, be it with a mustang or a jeep, but I'm less interested in a do-it-all than a rock climber.

Are there any advantages to the dana 44 axle and crawl rate/suspension rate on the rubi that I would actually ever use if I'm not going to be doing any hardcore rock climbing?

Basically, I'll be using it in heavy snow, to tow a small trailer, and as a daily driver. Perhaps some light trail and off-road duty for hunting trips, but not big hairy rock climbing.

Would the rubicon still make sense for what I need? Is it less prone to breakage with the heavier parts? Would an X S-package with some knobby tires actually get stuck in snow any more than a rubi would? Are there any advantages to the rubi that I'm overlooking that might be pertinent to my needs?

Thanks for the replies in any case!
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Old 02-15-2009, 07:06 PM   #5
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I have a 4 door Sahara and sometimes wish I had gotten a 2 door Rubi, woulda been about the same cost. The big advantage of the Rubi is lockers front and rear and 4.11 gears. It's always better to have something and not need it than to need it and not have it. Re gearing and lockers are probably 2 of the most done and expensive mods folks do. Oh and the electric swaybar disconnect don't hurt either. The Rubicon comes with a pretty agressive 32" tire as opposed to the wienee tires on my Sahara.

Another plus for the Rubi is that if you ever decide to sell it, you'll take less of a hit in depreciation. Wranglers as a whole retain their value pretty well, the Rubicon just more so.
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:05 PM   #6
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I guess the biggest concern for me is really the suspension. Does the Rubi ride higher? Does it have higher spring ratios? Those are two things that I definitely would want right out of the box.

I'm definitely leaning towards the Rubi at the current prices (and I suspect that the rebates are going to be around for quite a while).

Final question: I'd really be interested in a white one, I think the white plus the black steel bumpers and black fenders/roof/rollbars looks absolutely ace. But I'd like to add some pinstriping (of the non-rock scraping origin ), probably in a nice deep blue. The white plus the black and then blue striping on the sides would, I think, be beautiful.

Anyone have pics of some pinstriping on a Wrangler? I don't care about the color of the car or pinstriping, I'd just like to see how it looks in general. I'd go for decal, not paint, pinstripes, is there a good company that sells them?
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As far as pin striping goes. I used 3M on my Dodge pickup. They have a large selection of different types.
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I think you will find, as you use your jeep that you WILL want to do more things in it than you originally expected.

I wouldn't want to go out "crawlin" in a brand spankin new Rubi, just because if I rolled it, I'd be sick.

The nature of the Jeep addiction is that it takes progressively more challenges to get the adrenaline pumping.

I'd buy the Rubi
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Old 02-16-2009, 06:12 PM   #9
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Rubi it is then! Thanks for all the help guys. I gotta say, in terms of an online automotive community, you jeep guys have BY FAR been the most positive experience. The Mustang and Camaro crowd I usually post with (I've owned a Cobra and an older IROC-Z) fight like a room full of three year olds after a sucker.


Also, what is the best company to go with for purchasing an aftermarket front bumper that can accept a winch? I'll not be getting the winch right away, as I'm just graduating from college and money is a problem, but I would like some tips in terms of research.

Finally, what are some good options for a larger lockable storage solution for the jeep? I'll likely be removing the rear seats and installing some kind of bolted down lockable box, for carrying weapons to and from hunting trips.
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:43 PM   #10
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What the others said... go with the Rubi.... Mine stickered for 32700 and walk out the door for 25.... didn't even bother the "arguement" process...

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