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Old 09-07-2011, 09:57 PM   #1
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Remote Start on Manual with Soft Top

I got a Viper 5902 alarm and remote start system as a gift. Looks like a nice set up. I know it can be installed on a manual transmission vehicle. However, I called a few places for install and the ones that seemed the most knowledgable and asked me the most questions said they would not install it on a "convertible". I told them it wasn't a convertible it was a soft top Jeep, but that's besides the point. Their reason, it could be put into gear after I had set the remote start.

Is this something I should actually worry about? Has anyone installed remote start with a soft top?

I could always return it, or exchange it for the unit with just the alarm system.

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That seems silly to me. Would you be using the remote start very often with your top off? I would think the majority of the time the reason for using remote start is to either heat up or cool down the car....neither of which you would bother doing if the top was off...

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Old 09-07-2011, 11:47 PM   #3
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That seems silly to me. Would you be using the remote start very often with your top off? I would think the majority of the time the reason for using remote start is to either heat up or cool down the car....neither of which you would bother doing if the top was off...
Seemed odd to me too. And yes, I'll probably only use it when it's cold out. When it's hot I'll have the top off, unless it's hot and raining at the same time.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:55 PM   #4
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There's a security feature that if the jeep is put into gear without the key in the ignition, it will shut off....

I have an automatic, but I'm guessing this would apply to a manual as well....the moment anyone tries to put the Jeep in gear it will shut off, so..not sure what the big deal is???

**edit** not sure that the security feature applies to an aftermarket remote start, or is it the MOPAR remote start?
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There's a security feature that if the jeep is put into gear without the key in the ignition, it will shut off....

I have an automatic, but I'm guessing this would apply to a manual as well....the moment anyone tries to put the Jeep in gear it will shut off, so..not sure what the big deal is???
Did not know about that. Thanks.
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Sure can, the clutch switch has to be overridden. My friend had to go through a "procedure" to activate it. Also in neutral obviously
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:41 AM   #7
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ND, did you end up getting this installed? I'm interested to see how it's performing since I'm looking to pick this system up. Also have a manual.

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ND, did you end up getting this installed? I'm interested to see how it's performing since I'm looking to pick this system up. Also have a manual.

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I did, but we're not done. The alarm works great. I added the invisibeam field detection sensor to set off the alarm if someone reaches into the vehicle.

The installer is trying to find a solution to one issue. Whenever the remote start is used, the Jeep triggers a check engine light. The read out is something to do with the clutch.
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I had the remote start installed in my "10 soft top manual and it's no problem at all. apparently a lot of people leave their vehicles in gear when they drive a manual so they (bestbuy of all places) gave me a warning about keeping it in gear, seeing as I hardly ever do (unless on a steep hill) I had no problem with this. the way mine works is that my jeep will operate for about 10 mins before shutting off with out the key in it and/or shut off as soon as the break is depressed, I have faked myself out a couple of times thanks to that feature but I live in and around the city so I'm always hitting the break. sorry for the ramble
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Old 09-19-2011, 05:30 PM   #10
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I would advise AGAINST having remote start installed in a manual vehicle. Sure, YOU might know to leave it in neutral, but all it takes is one trip to the dealership for service or a warranty repair and some "technician" playing with your remote, and your jeep is driving off by itself or worse. It's happened.
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I would advise AGAINST having remote start installed in a manual vehicle. Sure, YOU might know to leave it in neutral, but all it takes is one trip to the dealership for service or a warranty repair and some "technician" playing with your remote, and your jeep is driving off by itself or worse. It's happened.
The Viper systems have neutral safety detection, so (if it was installed correctly) the gear shift must be in neutral before the system will even think about cranking the engine.

I've been debating installing the one I pulled from my (automatic) truck into my manual 09 JKU but I've gotten in the habit of parking it in gear, and it seems my E-Brake is somewhat weak unless I REALLY wrench it up when I set it (perhaps it just needs adjusting?)

So my question is, with or without remote start, do you people with stick shifts park in gear regularly or just the E-Brake?

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The Viper systems have neutral safety detection, so (if it was installed correctly) the gear shift must be in neutral before the system will even think about cranking the engine.

I've been debating installing the one I pulled from my (automatic) truck into my manual 09 JKU but I've gotten in the habit of parking it in gear, and it seems my E-Brake is somewhat weak unless I REALLY wrench it up when I set it (perhaps it just needs adjusting?)

So my question is, with or without remote start, do you people with stick shifts park in gear regularly or just the E-Brake?

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E-Brake. I rarely leave it in gear, unless I'm on a hill and I want the extra safety.
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ND,

Did you get you remote start figured out? I'm having mine installed in a couple of weeks.
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Did you get you remote start figured out? I'm having mine installed in a couple of weeks.
Guy thinks he has it figured ut, but I haven't had the time to go back in. This week I'll be in. Hope he's right.
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Good luck, I hope he is right.
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I park in gear. I have inquired about a remote start on a manual and even though it is available, it was not recommended. I opted not to install one because of the potential dangers. I live in an area with a lot of hills and if the emergency brake is not all the way up it rolls. Better to be safe than sorry.
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just to revamp this thread: Has anyone gotten a OEM Jeep remote start to work on a manual JK ?? ( I know all about leaving it in gear and crashing into a building and then the world ends etc etc etc) I just want to if anyone has done it? Obviously I want a remote start and I want the OEM one for the stock key as well.

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just to revamp this thread: Has anyone gotten a OEM Jeep remote start to work on a manual JK ?? ( I know all about leaving it in gear and crashing into a building and then the world ends etc etc etc) I just want to if anyone has done it? Obviously I want a remote start and I want the OEM one for the stock key as well.

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I have a compustar alarm/starter system in my 6sp Wrangler that works very well.
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So apparently it can be done but even if it's done properly you lose the feature if you need to park in gear which I do every time.

I've had too many times I put the e brake on and it started creeping on me and I had to jump back in.

It's a cool feature to have - I used to have it on my truck but it's not something I really miss. Idk to each their own.

I'm going to invent one with a built in prosthetic leg that actuates down and pushes the clutch in so it can be started in gear. Inspector gadget style
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So apparently it can be done but even if it's done properly you lose the feature if you need to park in gear which I do every time.

I've had too many times I put the e brake on and it started creeping on me and I had to jump back in.

It's a cool feature to have - I used to have it on my truck but it's not something I really miss. Idk to each their own.

I'm going to invent one with a built in prosthetic leg that actuates down and pushes the clutch in so it can be started in gear. Inspector gadget style
No worse than leaving a manual to idle up in the cold.

I find my e-brake to be as good as chocking the wheels with a handful of marshmallows on a good day.
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I did, but we're not done. The alarm works great. I added the invisibeam field detection sensor to set off the alarm if someone reaches into the vehicle.

The installer is trying to find a solution to one issue. Whenever the remote start is used, the Jeep triggers a check engine light. The read out is something to do with the clutch.
hey im having the exact same issue, any idea what the fix is?

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