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Old 04-17-2012, 10:17 AM   #1
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Remote Start Tripping Codes

Hi All,
Looking for assistance with a little problem.

In February I traded up my 2000 TJ and bought a 2012 JKU Arctic Edition (manual transmission), love this vehicle by the way, and had a 1-way Compustar remote car starter installed. The installation and starter was provided by the dealership, part of an anniversary incentive for buying a new vehicle.

Since then the check engine light has come on and stayed on twice. The codes both times are P0513 (Invalid Skim Key) and P0830 (Clutch Pedal Switch A Circuit). The first time, I took it in for servicing the dealership said that they had forgotten to wipe the codes from the system after the initial installation. The second time, for which I just dropped the Jeep off at the dealership, they indicated that the remote starter is not compatible and would need to be removed otherwise this problem will keep reoccurring.

So my questions are:
1. Is it likely the starter being incompatible or something wrong with the installation or perhaps a faulty relay circuit or part?

2. Does anyone know of a remote starter Brand/ Model that is definitely compatible for a 2012 Wrangler if this one isn't?

Maybe I will luck out and get upgraded to a 2-way system.

Any thoughts, advice.

Thanks

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Old 04-17-2012, 10:25 AM   #2
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hi, just have the dealer deactvate the remote start and see if that
clears the problem, worth a try,

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Old 04-17-2012, 11:06 AM   #3
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Worth a try. It is pretty much determined that it is the remote start causing the error codes. Weird thing is after resetting it is a about a month before the error codes pop up. Coincidentally after I have driven more aggressively.
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:54 PM   #4
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Hi,

Compustar remote starters are installed in many vehicle without issues. The error code ěnvalid skim key leads me to believe that your sentry immobilizer solution is not working properly, rather than the remote starter itself. I would suggest going back to your installer. It may be a matter of moving the immobilizer module away to a better location (away from metal) or if a coil around tumbler transcoder pickup was used then it may need to be adjusted forward or backward or rotated and silconed to stay in place.

If that fails, an XPRESSKIT that is flashed for Chrysler products will be your best bet if your installer cannot get the present solution to work. XPRESSKIT is also the cleanest solution. It does not require you to sacrifice a factory key or anything weird like that. The other error code may indicate that the remote starter needs to be configured for use with a standard transmission but I would think this setting should be available on a Compustar. Compustar support should be contacted directly by your installer if this code continues to appear after the invalid shim key error code is resolved.

A nice relatively inexpensive solution for Jeep Wrangler 2012 without power doorlocks is AVITAL 4113LX (it has just one button and looks like it could be factory, black like the interior, incredible range, but it is one-way and you would want a Python or Viper remote starter with 2-way if you have power doorlocks or if you are often in buildings with lots of steel that block the signal) and the immobilizer bypass XPRESSKIT XK09 or DB-ALL (they need to be flashed with most current software using the XKLOADER 2 but then it ensures the highest level of compatibility). I am thinking that the factory Mopar remote starter from Mopar would work but it is expensive to get the 3 parts of the kit (remote starter module, vehicle specific installation kit, and 2-way upgrade) to make it 2 way (but it is not clear if it works on the non-premium Sport versions since it it not listed as an option, and the Sport Wrangler may have a stripped down wiring harness, or not).

I think that since you have already had your remote starter installed, I would be addressing your issues with your installer. Since your dealer paid for the remote car starter they should be putting pressure on the installer to get it right.



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Old 04-21-2012, 06:25 PM   #5
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This link is a video of some guy who installed a XPRESSKIT in a Jeep Wrangler 2011 (should be similar to 2012). This appears to be one of his first DIY installations of a remote car starter with an immobilizer bypass but he got it right and everything seems to work. I thought I would post it just in case others wanted to attempt an aftermarket remote car starter install on their own.

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Old 04-21-2012, 06:39 PM   #6
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Smile get an installer to replace your transponder bypass kit

edit: i guess we both were workin on a reply at the same time, the above video uses an dball like i recommended
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I own ski's car audio and have done 100's of manual vehicles, chrysler/jeep products are touchy when it comes to bypassing the transponder so ask your local car audio shop if they sell the dball piece by Directed elec.
you wil then have a clone of the key when it comes time to remote start.
i normally use pkumux by directed but when your prob comes up it's dball or any other one that clones the key not adds another key.
also they may have forgotten to hook up the ground while running wire then the jeep does'nt see a key.
if you want to send me an email skiscaraudio@yahoo.com
it is not the remote starter....i can put a ten year old unit on your car and it will be fine so dealer is wrong bout the starter....it's the bypass
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:01 PM   #7
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he probably used a loop type ie pkumux, the loop can come loose and you could get a code for no key
dball uses no loop and again is a clone of your key and the bcm cant distinguish between the 2 so no codes will pop
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:59 PM   #8
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Compustar FT-CHR2 or FT-CHR1 remote start install. It is a bypass and remote start in one. No cutting wires comes with T- harness.
Intalled it in a 2009 unlimited with sentry key. Complete install took 30 min. Works with factory remote or aftermarket compustar remote. Will post link to installation video later.

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