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Old 08-20-2011, 11:32 AM   #1
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Replacing stock sub on "premium sound system"

Anyone done this yet? The "premium sound system" is less than par as I have already replaced the speakers in my speaker bar. The stock sub has no umph at all and looks like it is made out of cardboard (worst $400 upgrade I ever paid for). Has anyone replaced theirs with a better one? Noticeable improvements on the stock amp? I just want a little more CRISP bass. The stock one doesn't even sound like a sub to me. Hell my computer sub hits way nicer than it.

This is on a 2012 btw but I am sure the application would be the same with earlier models.

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Post what you replace it with. I plan to purchase a sub and new speakers soon. Had stereo installed a couple of days ago. Like using that USB for music!

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Old 08-20-2011, 08:09 PM   #3
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Hi, I thought the same thing - stock sub isnt quite enough..
only good thing, I was able to tap off the sub wires(already crossed over for bass) to an RCA to Line out converter, ran to my amp rather easily.

ended up with a powder coated dual-10(DVC) subs.. even with the top off I have enough sound - with just adding this it brings everything else to life
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Would the factory installed amp be enough to power a better sub in order to give better crisper bass?
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You have to try it, I was told there are a few 8" subs that will fit in the factory infinity box, but I can hardly doubt it will be enough change.
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After removing my rear seat, it sounds just a LITTLE bit better.
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That seems like quite the sacrifice.
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Wonder if the add-a-trunk would help. I noticed with the top folded back it sounded better-sorta creates a box.
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Old 08-22-2011, 11:25 PM   #9
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Would the factory installed amp be enough to power a better sub in order to give better crisper bass?
I wouldnt bother, you can get a fairly decent mono (single chanel amp) at a fair price and bypass the headach of trying to manipulate an integrated system.
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I wouldnt bother, you can get a fairly decent mono (single chanel amp) at a fair price and bypass the headach of trying to manipulate an integrated system.
hmmm. My son just bought a new amp for his subs, freeing up a Kicker 400W amp. That may wake up the inaudible stock sub.
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That would definatly help rattle the seats a little. Combine that with an 8" sub in the proper box and I think you may be happy. Just remember the best way to tell if you got it right, crank it up and the image in the rear view mirror should shake....lol, at least that is what my son would recomend.
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Anyone done this yet? The "premium sound system" is less than par as I have already replaced the speakers in my speaker bar. The stock sub has no umph at all and looks like it is made out of cardboard (worst $400 upgrade I ever paid for). Has anyone replaced theirs with a better one? Noticeable improvements on the stock amp? I just want a little more CRISP bass. The stock one doesn't even sound like a sub to me. Hell my computer sub hits way nicer than it.

This is on a 2012 btw but I am sure the application would be the same with earlier models.
I just replaced my sub on my '11 Sahara. I purchased a Polk Audio 8" 4ohm db840DVC sub (Sonic Electronix) for $60, the Kenwood KAC-1502S 2 channel amp for $65 (Sonic Electronix), Raptor ISPKBL8-BG install kit for $22 (Sonic Electronix, and the PAC SOEM-T LOC for $22 (Amazon).

All in all, I'm in it for roughly $150 in total, and it sounds really great. I'm not shaking the next car or anything, but the sound inside is completely evened out and the bass hits pretty hard. I keep the equalizer -3 Bass, -1 Midrange, and -3 Treble, and I'm really liking the sound. Can't beat the price either.

This was my first install, learned a lot, and its certainly not as difficult as I originally thought. Now when my son comes of age, I'll be able to wire his as well!

I can see the rear view mirror vibrate a bit, so I must have hit pay dirt!
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I just replaced my sub on my '11 Sahara. I purchased a Polk Audio 8" 4ohm db840DVC sub (Sonic Electronix) for $60, the Kenwood KAC-1502S 2 channel amp for $65 (Sonic Electronix), Raptor ISPKBL8-BG install kit for $22 (Sonic Electronix, and the PAC SOEM-T LOC for $22 (Amazon).

All in all, I'm in it for roughly $150 in total, and it sounds really great. I'm not shaking the next car or anything, but the sound inside is completely evened out and the bass hits pretty hard. I keep the equalizer -3 Bass, -1 Midrange, and -3 Treble, and I'm really liking the sound. Can't beat the price either.

This was my first install, learned a lot, and its certainly not as difficult as I originally thought. Now when my son comes of age, I'll be able to wire his as well!

I can see the rear view mirror vibrate a bit, so I must have hit pay dirt!
How did you do the install and get it to integrate with the factory system, particularly with the amp?
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i ordered a infinity basslink 10" powered sub should be getting it today. if you are interested in something with more umph and not going to take up the whole back of the jeep look into it. there are 2 of them the regular basslink and the basslink 2 i got mine on ebay for under $180 you can also get them on amazon for about the same price. i read a lot of reviews and they are pretty good for that sub.
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i ordered a infinity basslink 10" powered sub should be getting it today. if you are interested in something with more umph and not going to take up the whole back of the jeep look into it. there are 2 of them the regular basslink and the basslink 2 i got mine on ebay for under $180 you can also get them on amazon for about the same price. i read a lot of reviews and they are pretty good for that sub.
Show pics of the install and describe what you did please.
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i installed new speakers in the front and in the sound bar up top. should be getting the sub delivered today by ups in the next few hours will probably install it next weekend and take it out right after just to make sure it works. dont want to leave it in with the soft top on will put it in when the hard top goes back on in the winter. when i get it in and put in in i will take some pics and post them for you. from what ive read it should be pretty easy. the main part will be running power up to the battery from the back other than that just ground it and splice it into the speaker up at the sound bar.
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A few years back, I looked into upgrading the system on our boat. In doing the research, I learned it takes a lot of power (amp wise) to the sub in these open-air toys and would imagine the Jeep would fall into the same category as the boat. The HT would definitely help of course and I would assume the ST would help but just not ad much as the HT. That said, I'm looking forward to reading what you guys do to even out or improve the sound. As a DD, I'm not looking to win any contest but I do like to enjoy my tunes. I don't want to distract the car next to me at the stop light... too much anyway.

My wife's Nissan has the Rockford Fosgate system and it satisfies my needs. if I could replicate THAT system in the jeep... I'd be a happy camper. 
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I ran two sets of wires from headend, one set is line out to front speakers rerouted back to new amp, the second wire is from new amp in rear back to the front speakers. At the amp I split the front speakers output from headend into two Phono plugs, and plugged them into new Alpine amp, channels A and B, then on the amps outputs, one channel is "bridged" and goes to my 10 inch kicker sub, the other channel goes back up front to power the front speakers I replaced.

So now my fader control balances speaker bar to sub and front speakers, and the amp balances the front and sub (set and forget). Sound is great!
I mounted sub and amp under a three inch raised floor, that is covered and looks fairly "factory" to the wannabe thieves. Only time any wires appear is with rear sets folded down, and I cover them with a folded lawn chair in a carry case, laid in between seats and raised floor deck.

Just food for thought. Pics previously posted by me, you can find under my posts.
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How did you do the install and get it to integrate with the factory system, particularly with the amp?
Its pretty easy. You splice into the factory sub wires and run to the LOC, then run to the amp, then run the amp back out to the new sub. I pulled the sub out, cut the wires, and spliced in right there. You just have to remember to combine both positive and both negative wires together to make 1 each instead of 2. I drilled a hole into the plastic stock enclosure as low as I could and ran the wires through there. Once the secret hiding spot is back in and the rug, you can barely see it. I grounded the amp and LOC to the rear seat bolt.

I used the storage spot for the amp and LOC, and just drilled a couple of screws to keep it from moving. To eliminate vibration, I bought some small rubber stick on feet from Radio Shack that worked great.

The only thing that doesn't look 'stock' is the Polk sub grill that I had to purchase. They have one for that particular sub, but you'll have to drill new holes for the new sub, and they don't line up with the stock enclosure. Pretty easy though as you are drilling into rubber and plastic, but it holds very tight. I drilled 4 new screws (top and bottom) into the new sub and that held it well. Because the new grill didn't fit flush, I needed 4 longer screws to install that. Looks great.
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Looks great.
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Got pics?
I can grab some this week and will post
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i installed new speakers in the front and in the sound bar up top. should be getting the sub delivered today by ups in the next few hours will probably install it next weekend and take it out right after just to make sure it works. dont want to leave it in with the soft top on will put it in when the hard top goes back on in the winter. when i get it in and put in in i will take some pics and post them for you. from what ive read it should be pretty easy. the main part will be running power up to the battery from the back other than that just ground it and splice it into the speaker up at the sound bar.
how hard is it to change the front speakers? i heard you have to take off the dash? is that true?
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how hard is it to change the front speakers? i heard you have to take off the dash? is that true?
I actually found the passenger speaker harder to replace than the driver's side. For the driver's side:
1. Remove the plastic piece below the steering column (pops right off)
2. Take out the four dash screws. There is also one screw down by your left foot. Don't forget that one or the plastic will not flex out enough to get to the speaker.
3. Remove the two screws holding the metal bracket in, and remove that.
4. Then pop off the side panel, there are a couple of screws there and you will be able to see the speaker. You don't need to pull the screw out of the middle of the dash on the top accessory tray. Some directions tell you to do so.
5. You should be able to bend the plastic back enough to get a small driver in to remove the 3 torx screws holding the speaker in.
6. Pull out and unplug
7. Fill the cavity with polyfill, plug the new speaker in, and reinstall everything else

The passenger's side is roughly the same, but you have to pull the dash out a bit more in order to get to the speaker. I found that I needed to flex it more than the driver's side, and the trim piece on top of the dash popped off, as well as the center console piece. That wasn't on purpose, and was a bit aggravating lining it all back up on reassembly.

Again, not too hard, but take your time. I think that things are setup a little differently on the 2011 vs. 2010, especially when it comes to the stock amp.
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Old 09-04-2011, 12:15 AM   #24
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it actually isnt that hard. i had to do it a second time on the passenger side because i forgot to put a seal between the speaker and the bracket. it only took a few minutes. i found the passenger side to be easier and i didnt have to pull out the dash at all really. here is the link i followed and it was good, this guy did a good job explaining it.

2011 Wrangler Speaker Replacement - Easy!
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finally done with the install of the infinity basslink 10 inch powered subwoofer. im pretty impressed with how its sounds. im very satisfied with the purchase. its not going to rumble the neighborhood but it sounds good inside the cab of the jeep even with the soft top. the hardest part was running the power wire through the firewall. there is a gromet in the corner under the dash on the passenger side that i went through. i ran the power down the passenger side of the floor under the base board and behind the plastics and under the carpet going all the way to the back. i ran the speaker wire up the rear roll bar up to the sound bar and fed the speaker wire in through the gromet where the factory wires run through. the remote gain control i ran under the carpet in the back to get to the drivers side and followed the same line like i did for the power and mounted it right under the dash on the drivers side. overall it wasnt that bad but it did take time. really you can run the wires how you want but thats the way i did it. i will post the pics on my profile page. i dont know how to add pics to a post
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i think i may have figured this picture thing out hopefully it works
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That looks good 707. Nice install!

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