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Old 07-07-2010, 09:08 AM   #31
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HOT OIL Warning on 2008 Wrangler 4door

Catamountjk, I was glad to see this posting, as I have had the same exact problem, in fact on the same beach you had your problem. Originally took the Jeep to the dealer (Raleigh, NC) and they said nothing was wrong and had never heard of the problem. Last week while on the same beach same problem occurred. Today I printed out your post, took it to the dealer, spoke directly to the service manager, asked him to look up the service bulletin you list and " A MIRACLE" now all of a sudden they are aware, have ordered the new tranny cooler kit, and will be installing it. I will be at the beach again in about a week so we will see if this fixes it or not.
In any case thank for the info, hope this works!

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Oh ok I get it. Wait till the trans melts, then Chrysler will hook you up with a cooler. After you pay 1000 bucks for a rebuild, they "give you" a $50 cooler. What a deal!
Put a cheap $60 dollar aux cooler in the jeep and QYB

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PS--In sand, for any length of time, you should be in 4LO (AUTO)and air down to at least 18 psi !!

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it shouldn't be my responsibility to not only pay for, but spend MY TIME and MY MONEY repairing because Chrysler is a cheap f*ck that wants to build vehicles with scrap.

if this is your idea of "quality service" that's your agenda. this is nothing more than a cheap excuse to get out from under it since Chrysler can't afford to fix their POS transmission.

it's not like this is the first junk trans they've had either.

when I overpay for a vehicle from a company known for garbage tranny's, I expect a REAL fix of it, not some godd*mn idiot light.

defend Chrysler. I don't care. they'll cut their own throat sooner or later. these companies always do.
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it shouldn't be my responsibility to not only pay for, but spend MY TIME and MY MONEY repairing because Chrysler is a cheap f*ck that wants to build vehicles with scrap.

if this is your idea of "quality service" that's your agenda. this is nothing more than a cheap excuse to get out from under it since Chrysler can't afford to fix their POS transmission.

it's not like this is the first junk trans they've had either.

when I overpay for a vehicle from a company known for garbage tranny's, I expect a REAL fix of it, not some godd*mn idiot light.

defend Chrysler. I don't care. they'll cut their own throat sooner or later. these companies always do.
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:02 PM   #35
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my time and my money repairing a manufacturing defect? that's recalled?
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Old 07-07-2010, 07:02 PM   #36
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Does the tow group package come with a cooler installed already? Mine has factory tow but I have never seen the cooler. Where would it be located?

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Old 07-07-2010, 07:10 PM   #37
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The tow group pkg, includes the cooler as part of the A/C condenser, in front of the radiator !!

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Does the tow group package come with a cooler installed already? Mine has factory tow but I have never seen the cooler. Where would it be located?

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The Tow Package DOES NOT INCLUDE A TRANNY COOLER!!

Here's what it does include (right off the Jeep website).

Includes:
•Trailer Hitch Receiver
•Trailer Sway Damping
•Trailer Tow with 4-Pin Wiring Connector
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Old 07-07-2010, 08:20 PM   #39
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The Tow Package DOES NOT INCLUDE A TRANNY COOLER!!

Here's what it does include (right off the Jeep website).

Includes:
•Trailer Hitch Receiver
•Trailer Sway Damping
•Trailer Tow with 4-Pin Wiring Connector

Thats kind of what I was thinking.
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Thats probably true, but you won't be able to order a JK with tow pkg--Without A/C and condenser with cooler !!

I haven't even looked at what you guys are talking about, but you might give that a try--

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Thats probably true, but you won't be able to order a JK with tow pkg--Without A/C and condenser with cooler !!

I haven't even looked at what you guys are talking about, but you might give that a try--

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Thanks for your follow up post.

Sure enough, my 09 JK Rubi has auto, A/C & tow package.

I just went out and took a look at the A/C condenser and yup! It does have a tranny cooler built into the bottom of the condenser. You can recognize it by it's slightly different construction and the two tubes leading off the driver's side back to the auto tranny.

That was a surprise to me because vehicles I've been familiar with have had their tranny coolers built into the bottom of their radiators. (I'm probably dating myself here.)

I'm wondering what the deal is with JK auto combinations that don't have A/C. Surely Chrysler wouldn't put them on the road with no cooler would they??

Side note and a side benefit to paying attention to subjects on this forum....

There has been discussion about an upcoming recall to resolve an issue where the plastic inner fender can rub through the brake lines. Initially as reported by Autoblog, the issue only involved the passenger side. I discovered that I had the problem and cut the inner fender enough to prevent the rubbing until the recall happens.

Later discussion indicated that the issue involves both sides. Sure enough I checked the area that I had trimmed on the passenger side and it looked to have sufficient clearance.

Quite by accident and totally as a result of this thread I happened to notice that the driver's side inner fender on my JK was indeed rubbing the stainless brake line toward the rear of the inner fender. There is obvious wear on the brake line! Out came the snips again.

So. Thanks again JIMBOX! You could very well have helped me prevent something ugly from happening.
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:20 PM   #42
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Just a question, are you guys turning of ESP while running in sand?
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Heh Heh, I don't know if Jeep ever provided the A/C without a cooler,. but with the auto xmission trouble they've had, I doubt it would have made any difference


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Thanks for your follow up post.

Sure enough, my 09 JK Rubi has auto, A/C & tow package.

I just went out and took a look at the A/C condenser and yup! It does have a tranny cooler built into the bottom of the condenser. You can recognize it by it's slightly different construction and the two tubes leading off the driver's side back to the auto tranny.

That was a surprise to me because vehicles I've been familiar with have had their tranny coolers built into the bottom of their radiators. (I'm probably dating myself here.)

I'm wondering what the deal is with JK auto combinations that don't have A/C. Surely Chrysler wouldn't put them on the road with no cooler would they??

Side note and a side benefit to paying attention to subjects on this forum....

There has been discussion about an upcoming recall to resolve an issue where the plastic inner fender can rub through the brake lines. Initially as reported by Autoblog, the issue only involved the passenger side. I discovered that I had the problem and cut the inner fender enough to prevent the rubbing until the recall happens.

Later discussion indicated that the issue involves both sides. Sure enough I checked the area that I had trimmed on the passenger side and it looked to have sufficient clearance.

Quite by accident and totally as a result of this thread I happened to notice that the driver's side inner fender on my JK was indeed rubbing the stainless brake line toward the rear of the inner fender. There is obvious wear on the brake line! Out came the snips again.

So. Thanks again JIMBOX! You could very well have helped me prevent something ugly from happening.
I've received both recalls, the auto xmission ECM "flashing" to provide the dash icon lite, although it also has a "limp mode" activation ckt, that shuts you down--no matter where you are (ask HD)

Also the brakeline, fender/liner interference--

I'm not honoring either of those two, I have an aux cooler and temp gages and I fixed the liner interference !!

ya lays yer money and ya takes yer chances !!

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Old 07-07-2010, 09:31 PM   #44
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Yea, thats one way to run cooler, but


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Just a question, are you guys turning of ESP while running in sand?
I'm in 4lo, whenever I get near sand, which isn't that much, so ESP is pretty well shutdown !!

With the size of my aux cooler I stay pretty cool all the time anyway, mine is rated at 18,000 GVW, so my auto temp stays less than 120°, going back into the xmission !!

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Old 07-07-2010, 10:43 PM   #45
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I got that service bulletin in the mail today.. I have never had any problems with it overheating but I'm scared to take my jeep in because of all the extra stuff I have done to it.
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Old 07-07-2010, 10:55 PM   #46
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all it is, is a flash that makes a retarded light come on. I didn't get it, nor do I plan to. it still gives you a warning without it. you'll hear a ding like the gas light came on, but you'll be like "huh? what was that" but now you know.

a recalled part the dealers can't deny service on. they might see a modified jeep and flag you for future service though through warranty. but if it comes to that, they'll see your jeep anyway.

if you want it don't let that stop you. a lousy light isn't worth my time or fuel driving to the dealership.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:14 PM   #47
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^^^^ my initial thoughts exactly, I did want to consult the forum to see what others were doing... Thanks bro!!
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:55 AM   #48
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I just googled Tranny Cooler,,, and I wasnt pleased with the results.


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I don't understand that, the aux coolers are phenomenal, but

Since your jeep is leased--there's nothing you can do anyway !!

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ok, I'm not hijacking this thread or anything but I've got a quick question.

is there a new recall on the 42RLE? I just got a letter in the mail today involving hot trans oil. I already got one letter warning me that the trans is junk, but this one is talking about a recall on the oil itself. I'm lead to believe ATF4 is no longer the spec or advised fluid. anybody else get a letter like this? I figured I'd ask here than call those sh*theads at the dealership.
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So far there's only been one recall for the tranny and thats J30, which "flashes" the ECM and puts that idiot light on the dash, for "HOT OIL",but


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ok, I'm not hijacking this thread or anything but I've got a quick question.

is there a new recall on the 42RLE? I just got a letter in the mail today involving hot trans oil. I already got one letter warning me that the trans is junk, but this one is talking about a recall on the oil itself. I'm lead to believe ATF4 is no longer the spec or advised fluid. anybody else get a letter like this? I figured I'd ask here than call those sh*theads at the dealership.
it also allows the xmission to go "limp mode" and shut you down, no matter where you are !!

I haven't heard about anything wrong with plain ol ATF-4, but it wouldn't surprise me, that Crysler is looking for more ways to handle the auto's heat !!

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I know. it makes sense. crap I'll need to call them tonight. I don't know why they'd send me another letter about it. I'm doing the flush and cooler in about 5,000 so I need to find out
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Auxilary transmission cooler

I wanted to give final update on my overheating transmission oil warning light. I did get the heavy duty transmission cooler from the dealer, and the thing works. The thing looks like a half sized radiator that is mounted in front of the verhicle's radiator. I have been out on the beach regularly for past few weeks, and no warning light, no smell, nothing, the Jeep is working the way God meant it to be. I have used in both 4H settings and it doesn't make a difference. So my conclusion, if you have an automatic transmission and you are going to do any type of serious 4 wheeling in sand, get this thing before you blow out your transmission. It works!
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I think that the factory's is longer and lower than mine !


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I wanted to give final update on my overheating transmission oil warning light. I did get the heavy duty transmission cooler from the dealer, and the thing works. The thing looks like a half sized radiator that is mounted in front of the verhicle's radiator. I have been out on the beach regularly for past few weeks, and no warning light, no smell, nothing, the Jeep is working the way God meant it to be. I have used in both 4H settings and it doesn't make a difference. So my conclusion, if you have an automatic transmission and you are going to do any type of serious 4 wheeling in sand, get this thing before you blow out your transmission. It works!


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I called my dealer and asked about having the cooler done under warranty; they couldn't fathom it and wanted to give me a price quote.

I'm thinking of opening a file with the NHTSA on it to cover myself. That warning beep is unnerving.
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I just got a notice in the mail about a recall for the overheating transmission. And it also came with a notice on how to turn the ESP off doing the steering wheel dance.
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I called my dealer and asked about having the cooler done under warranty; they couldn't fathom it and wanted to give me a price quote.

I'm thinking of opening a file with the NHTSA on it to cover myself. That warning beep is unnerving.
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I'm curious... I had my Recall done a few weeks ago, and I guess they just, "FLASHED" the Computer, to add the Chime and Hot Oil Light. Where exactly IS this light? Is it the Small Red Oil Can that pops up in the center of the Gage Cluster, when you start the Jeep? Does it Chime once or more than once? I just want to make sure that they completed the Recall.

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I just got a notice in the mail about a recall for the overheating transmission. And it also came with a notice on how to turn the ESP off doing the steering wheel dance.
You can turn it off in 4 Hi by holding the button for 5 seconds. It reset when you turn the engine off. It's automatically disabled in 4 Lo.
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Bill!

I'm curious... I had my Recall done a few weeks ago, and I guess they just, "FLASHED" the Computer, to add the Chime and Hot Oil Light. Where exactly IS this light? Is it the Small Red Oil Can that pops up in the center of the Gage Cluster, when you start the Jeep? Does it Chime once or more than once? I just want to make sure that they completed the Recall.

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You get a message where the odometer reading normally shows, that flashes quickly along with a chime that rings as the message flashes. The message says "hot oil". If you get this scenario, put into neutral and rev the engine a bit and it will stop in a few minutes. Or turn the car off for about 15 mins. In any case if you see this message it says whatever you were doing in 4 wheel drive, you should reconsider doing it again unless you get an aux tranny cooler, unless catching fire and blowing up in your jeep sounds like a good thing to go do.

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