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Old 09-03-2012, 03:57 PM   #241
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Rausch Creek Testing

Rausch Creek Testing Complete!

Man this thing is fantastic. Walked over everything in our way.

My skills as a driver are not at the level to tackle terrain to challenge this lift. I cruised though green, blue and even a black section.

It is so effortless to drive off road. I was only tense a one point when I was concerned I might tip it, and Pete hoped on my rock rail. Once we were past the obstacle, Pete and Jesse (new Jeeplab recruit) agreed, that there was zero chance of tipping.

In the first picture here, Im very articulated, front axle twisted left, rear axle twisted right. The cabin stayed so flat and composed, I didnt realize what the suspension was doing under me until Jesse called for me to stop with alarm. I though I was about to break something. I asked what was up, and he said that he need a picture of what the truck was doing. Very funny.

So I pretty much parked it there and let the photo shoot commence. I didnt get out of the truck, and never saw the photos till just now. Its pretty impressive.

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Old 09-03-2012, 05:15 PM   #243
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More Rausch Creek

here's some more
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:31 PM   #244
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It looks like there might be some rubbing on the driver's side bumper in that second picture. Am I seeing that right or is it just the camera angle? I see you've modified the OME bumper, have you thought of trimming the ends?
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[QUOTE=kramer2k;2754532] have you thought of trimming the ends?[/QUOTE]

Give him a little time--- he will!!! Right after the right rock!!!
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Old 09-03-2012, 09:07 PM   #247
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It looks like there might be some rubbing on the driver's side bumper in that second picture. Am I seeing that right or is it just the camera angle? I see you've modified the OME bumper, have you thought of trimming the ends?
It totally rubbed. And it made the worst sound, I though I really broke the fan belt or something. (wack! wack! wack! wack!)

I have to trim the bumper a little.

Before you think that this tire and wheel combo will "rub", let me explain, it will only under the most extreme articulation AND turning. If you dont go past blue in rausch creek, you wouldnt have the problem. Its when your climbing and turning while being off camber.....etc.

30 seconds with my cordless dremel 8200 and its fixed.

Also it only touched the bottom of the bumper, so the part I cut, will never been seen unless your laying under the truck. (or getting run over)

TRIMMING THE ENDS -

If you meant doing the stubby conversion to the stock bumper I wont do it. I love the look of the stock full length bumper, If I was to go "stubby" it would be steel, and I'd change my flares at the same time.

I love the look of flat flares, stubby bumper and the soft top, safari straps, or toppless. but when the hard top goes back on, I like the stock flares and full length bumper.

Also the stock bumper with hidden winch looks sooo cool.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:35 AM   #248
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Pie; another thing I did with mine is to weld a pin on to each top spring perch so that when I am disconnected, I have a place to "park" the sway bar links; rather than just zip tie them. I'll try to get some pics this evening and post for you to see what I mean.

And yeah, I'm like you. I really didn't care for the stock bumper being "stubby"; so I built my own from 2X4 structural tubing!
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Pie; another thing I did with mine is to weld a pin on to each top spring perch so that when I am disconnected, I have a place to "park" the sway bar links; rather than just zip tie them. I'll try to get some pics this evening and post for you to see what I mean.
Now that's a cool idea! I'd love to see some pics to visualize what you're talking about.
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You air down the tires?
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I definatly want to see the welded swaybar link "parking spaces"

and yes we had the 315/75R17 Duratracs aired down to 15 psi.
AND it rained.
AND we didnt slip.
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I definatly want to see the welded swaybar link "parking spaces"

and yes we had the 315/75R17 Duratracs aired down to 15 psi.
AND it rained.
AND we didnt slip.
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I was with Ross this weekend at Rausch Creek and had the pleasure of driving his Unlimited over some rough terrain, immediately after driving the same exact line in my stock Rubicon. I was aired down, just like him. Let me tell you, the ride was at least 50% better. I'd attribute the improved experience on two items: the lift and the tires. I love my '12 Rubicon but man, a day of going over Rausch Creeks Basketball-sized rocks can be fatiguing to say the least. Honestly, the side-to-side rocking motion at stock is pretty hard on the body...

the Rock Krawler lift really worked at going up and over obstacles smoothly. The tires took a lot of the initial impact of rocks. I want....
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:07 AM   #254
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SNARF SIGHTING!!!

Thats Jesse, he saved our bacon at Rausch Creek. He drove the second truck. (his brand new Rubicon) Knew his way around the rocks out there and was a general asset to the project.

I made him drive his own truck through a section and then mine to give a clear understanding of the differences between my setup and stock.
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now that's a cool idea! I'd love to see some pics to visualize what you're talking about.
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OK guys. I still have to make it look like I am working once in a while, so sorry about taking so long to respond!!
Pics taken from front driver side. Passenger side just a mirror image of D.S.
Sway bar connected


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Hope this helps. I also made sure to position it inboard far enough so as not to be any kind of problem while flexing and turning
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I'll say it again, that is such a cool idea.

So people use zip ties as temporary solutions while on the trail?
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Agreed. That is super cool.
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Glad I could be of assistance. Now if'n you have someone that can make a "pretty" weld........ oh, well; they work great!!
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We are getting into the home stretch, Videos should be out in the next week or two. Shocks video is going to be first and is just about complete.
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:03 AM   #261
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Thanks for the reply. So the RK arm ends are aligned properly (like the factory ones)?

Also, I know you had yours installed, but can one install a RK lift themselves? After putting 2 lifts on my XJ (2nd one totally custom and complete replacement) and helping install 2 OME lifts on JKUs I think I'm up to the task.

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Now that I look at it, I agree its confusing.

The 2.5 Max Travel- is the front trackbar, all lower control arms and relocation bracket.

The 3.5 Max travel- is the upper and lower control arms, front and rear trackbars, relocation bracket PLUS the high steer kit.

The 2.5 or 3.5 X-Factor- is the upper and lower control arms, front and rear trackbars and relocation bracket

So if im reading their website correctly...

The 2.5 x-factor is more complete than the 2.5 max travel.

The 3.5 max travel seems to be more complete than the 3.5 x-factor.
The differences between the 2.5 Max Travel and the 2.5 X Factor are the upper control arms and the rear trackbar. But as I recently learned, you can buy these and install later. Which as far as I am concerned one of the best reasons to be buy from RK. Everything is upgradeable.

I believe the main difference between the 2.5 and 3.5 are the high steer components that come with the 3.5

I would suggest some exhaust spacers for anyone with even the 2.5. They create extra room between your front drive shaft and the exhaust cross over. This will help delay the need for a new front drive shaft.
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The differences between the 2.5 Max Travel and the 2.5 X Factor are the upper control arms and the rear trackbar. But as I recently learned, you can buy these and install later. Which as far as I am concerned one of the best reasons to be buy from RK. Everything is upgradeable.

I believe the main difference between the 2.5 and 3.5 are the high steer components that come with the 3.5

I would suggest some exhaust spacers for anyone with even the 2.5. They create extra room between your front drive shaft and the exhaust cross over. This will help delay the need for a new front drive shaft.
I went with the AFE Y-pipe. Moves the pipe behind the crossmember. Plenty of room now.
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I've been reading all of the 2.5" lift related threads and was considering the teraflex coil, aev coil, RK max travel and X Factor. I'm pretty set on the RK. Not sure if I'll get the max travel and upgrade over time or just jumping on the X Factor from the get go.

I'm can't wait to see the install videos. I really want to try to do it myself, to save some money but also to get familiar with my jeep's suspension because I'll have to be able to maintain it after install anyway. Bolting everything on seems easy enough, but there are a few things I'm uncertain about. All of the adjustable arms and bars. I'm not sure if I'll be able to tune the system myself. Also brake lines. I don't really know what goes into that. Would I need to take the jeep in to have the brakes bled after the install? It would also need an allignment after install I'd assume.
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I'll say it again, that is such a cool idea.

So people use zip ties as temporary solutions while on the trail?
We just use the good ole zip tie method! LOL honestly... ours stay zip tied up most of the time! I think mine have been tied up for the last 3K miles on the JK! LOL...

As far as the lift and where to start, for anyone wanting to get a RK lift and then upgrading to the new X-Factor, I would recomend starting with the Flex System. Then adding the rear upper, lowers, and break lines. Dont start with the Max Travel.

Also for the install, it is pretty easy and strigth forward. RK gives you all the specs that will get you VERY close to where it needs to be. They give you a eye to eye measurment of all the arms. Yes you will need to bleed the brake lines but that is really easy if you have someone to help you. I am sure there is a few good youtube videos about it. Then, it is recemmended that you do get a alignment after the lift is installed.

If you guys have any questions about these or any other lifts, let us know. I TRY to get in here as much as possible but I get stuck in PM land a lot. So, if there is anything we can do please just let us know!

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Thanks very much for the info, Jason. Why is it that you recommend going from the flex to the x factor instead of starting with the max travel?
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I'm curious as well. ^

I bought the Max Travel and figured I'd eventually complete the build out up to the X-Factor by purchasing all four UCAs and adjustable rear track bar.
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I'm curious as well. ^

I bought the Max Travel and figured I'd eventually complete the build out up to the X-Factor by purchasing all four UCAs and adjustable rear track bar.
FYI... You will have to replace the rear lowers as well. The rear LCA's RK uses in the Max travel kit are shorter.
The RK site list 2 different part #'s. one set is to use with stock uppers and one to use along with their Uca's to move the axle back.
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OK guys. I still have to make it look like I am working once in a while, so sorry about taking so long to respond!!
Pics taken from front driver side. Passenger side just a mirror image of D.S.
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Hope this helps. I also made sure to position it inboard far enough so as not to be any kind of problem while flexing and turning
Great idea, quicker slicker disconnect!
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