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Old 08-06-2012, 10:57 AM   #1
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Rock Krawler 2.5 X-Factor Pics Video Review

Hey Everyone!

It happened on saturday, and I'd like to thank Justin and Tyler from Rock Krawler for doing the 12 hour installation in the sweltering heat with our guys with cameras in their way. They were very good sports and the kit is fantastic.

My cousin is editing the 30 hours of tape to cut it down to something palatable for you guys. There is a lot of pics and video coming.

Thanks again to Rock Krawler for letting us bring our cameras, and thanks to tirerack.com for pulling us out of a jam with their mounting and balancing and then delivering the tires directly to Rock Krawler already with the TPMS sensors installed and working. I cant overstate how that saved this whole thing.

Buckle up! Here it comes!

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Old 08-06-2012, 12:35 PM   #3
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Oh boy, definitely looking forward to this.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:06 PM   #4
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Components of the Lift

Here we go-

The NEW x-factor lift is comprised of-

4 lower control arms
4 upper control arms
1 front track bar
1 rear track bar
1 relocation bracket (moves your rear axle back an inch)
4 brake line extensions
2 front sway bars
2 rear sway bars
2 front springs
2 rear springs

This lift is a step past the 2.5 Max travel. Its basicly the 2.5 Max Travel plus the upper control arms and the rear track bar.

This is a picture of the RK 3.5 X factor, The 2.5 is basicly the same lift, with 2.5 springs and 2.5 trackbars.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:13 PM   #5
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2 front sway bars links
2 rear sway bars links
Slightly amended to be clearer.

And do they give you the option of quick disconnect front links vs. fixed links? I'd go with quick disconnects even if I had a Rubicon.


And what are the two discs in the lower, right of the picture? Do they include the spring angle supports as part of this kit?
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:45 PM   #6
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Slightly amended to be clearer.

And do they give you the option of quick disconnect front links vs. fixed links? I'd go with quick disconnects even if I had a Rubicon.


And what are the two discs in the lower, right of the picture? Do they include the spring angle supports as part of this kit?

Thanks Kramer, I was trying to be fast with the next post. Thanks for the correction.

They are they type of links that you pull the pin out of an and they are disconnected. So yes, I'd call them quick disconnects as there are no neccessary tools to use. Also with a Rubi your electronic disconnect will still work, but under extreme articulation you have the possibity of bending the sway bar link depending on how it sits when you come back from the articulation.

Basicly, if your going over terrain thats not too crazy, the electric sway bar disconnect is fine. If you really want to twist it, you should manually disconnect the sway bar.

I was in rausch creek with my rubi stock and i found it to be annoying that the swaybar wouldnt stay disconnected in 4Hi. I was trying to keep up with some people and found myself in 3rd and 4th gear in 4lo to keep the sway bar disconnected. In the future, when wheeling, Ill just manually disconnect it and run in 4 Hi.

Im not sure what those ring things are. I'll do some investigating. I dont remember seeing them during the install. We had all the parts spread out on a table when we taped our interview with Justin from RK explaining.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:49 PM   #7
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Buckle up! Here it comes!
Very cool!

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The Rings

Those are rear coil correction wedges... They are in the kit. They correct the rear springs when the axle being moved back an inch changes their angle.
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Those are rear coil correction wedges... They are in the kit. They correct the rear springs when the axle being moved back an inch changes their angle.
Ahh, I thought that's what they were. Thanks for confirming Mr. PieFace.
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Weight of lift components

The weight of each RK part is noticeable, as they are solid steel, but before you think of the kit as heavy, process that the control arms and track bars that come standard on the JK are also so heavy that adding all these solid steel components only adds a total of 49lbs. So if your weight conscious, Its not as much of a weight addition as you may think considering the robust solid steel parts.

Seeing them all spread out on the table with my Jeep on blocks with its guts ripped out made me think of the 6 Million dollar man. My truck was about to become bionic.
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I am really looking forward to the pictures and video. What size tires are you running with this setup?
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:43 PM   #12
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I was going for maximum light weight to try to retain as much power as possible. I also wanted the tires to be quiet.

The Rock Krawler guys suggested the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac without me telling them my prefrences, mentioning that the compound was softer than other MTs. That worked great with my goals for weight and sound.

The tires were the 315/70R17 supposed to weigh in at 60 lbs.
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Did you say 12 hours of labor? Like 12 times their hourly rate?

Our long arm only took 10 hours to weld, grind, align out the door... I know every shop is different and all kits are not built alike.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:10 AM   #14
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The install was a set cost.

I got there at 9am and didnt leave till 9pm. You have to account for all the taping and stuff we did that was not just a regular installation.

Im sure it would have been faster without us in the way making them explain things.
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Did you say 12 hours of labor? Like 12 times their hourly rate?

Our long arm only took 10 hours to weld, grind, align out the door... I know every shop is different and all kits are not built alike.

Pluke... I had the 3.5x installed in 6 hrs at a local shop. Different shops, different paces. Plus they had to deal with cameras and I am guessing the techs had to pull back at times so they could get shots of what was done.

Either way the RK lifts are the bomb IMO.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:25 AM   #16
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RK RRD 2.0 Remote Reservoir Shocks

When I see a lift my eye is immediately drawn to the shocks. What’s he got in there? King? Fox? Bilsteins?
I was looking for something light and tough as far as the shock choice. Once I really got into the research I kept coming back to the RK remote Reservoirs. I liked the fluted body and I liked that they will not rust, and the finish wont pitt or crack or flake. The fluting not only looks super cool, it also does super cool the shocks. Each flute adds surface area to help in reducing the shocks temperature. Then they add the second body to double the surface area and cool the shock fluid twice as fast. Whats the point? Rapidly cooling shock fluid means fade free shocks. I may never get them to their limits, as they are made heavy duty for racing, but it means that no matter what I throw at them, they should be rock solid.
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Wow, look at those beauties! They look great. What's the cost per shock on those?
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its $335 per shock.
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great stuff, keep it comin!
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What are the specifications on the shocks? Open and Collapsed lengths?

I hear those travel for days!

Good stuff!
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RRD Shock part numbers and specs

The fronts are part number RRD02056RR and they are 10" Travel Stem-Loop Shocks with a collapsed length of 17" and extended length of 27"


The rears are part number RRD02057RRD/P and they are 10" Travel Loop-Loop Shocks with a collapsed lengh of 16.50" and extended length of 26.50"
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If I am not mistaken, they have a pic of the jeep on rockkrawlers facebook page which is pretty damn cool.
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they look amazing thats for sure.
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If I am not mistaken, they have a pic of the jeep on rockkrawlers facebook page which is pretty damn cool.
yea it is, just saw it on there myself. lookin good Pie
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Hysterical. Here I am trying to build the suspense and the RK guys blew the lid off. That is my truck, and man did it twist when we put it on the forklift.

No sense in holding back now here is the before and after articulation shots
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Hysterical. Here I am trying to build the suspense and the RK guys blew the lid off. That is my truck, and man did it twist when we put it on the forklift.

No sense in holding back now here is the before and after articulation shots
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Hysterical. Here I am trying to build the suspense and the RK guys blew the lid off. That is my truck, and man did it twist when we put it on the forklift.

No sense in holding back now here is the before and after articulation shots
yup, the RK guys blew your spot.


i think i can see a slight difference

i'm currently savin my pennies for this exact kit.
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You'll better see the differences when we post the measurements. There was definatly a difference.
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You'll better see the differences when we post the measurements. There was definatly a difference.
sarcasm. it's a huge difference.

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