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Old 10-12-2013, 12:44 PM   #1
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I have a 2014 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S on order. Didn't go for the Rubicon due to budget, but I really like the Rubicon wheels. Here are my questions:

- I am looking at buying the 2014 Rubicon wheels and tires from a take off. Will these fit on my Sports S without any modification?
- It doesn't look like my stock sport s tires and wheels will sell for much. If I keep them, will the tires from my sport s fit on the rubicon wheels?
- What spacer size and brand would you recommend to achieve a wider look without looking too big? It seems like I'd like the new rubicon tires to "show" beyond the fenders about 1.5"
- what height lift should I consider to get a slightly bigger look? How much should I expect to pay to have this done?

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Old 10-12-2013, 02:18 PM   #2
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I have a '13 Rubicon. Bought the Poison Spyder 1.5" wheel spacers. It brings the rear tires approx 1" outside the fender, and the front about 3/4". They are sold in PAIRS so you must get two pairs, and were $80. I'm sure someone will tell you this isn't the best brand because of. . . .But I liked the fact they were black and basically disappeared behind the rims. Other companies make them in anodized red or blue, wasn't the look I was going for. Can't help you with suspension questions, I am planning on enjoying the build and doing a little bit at a time.

This forum is great, though I have only posted a few times, I have been reading comments for almost a year. Many people seem really eager to help and point new and old members in the right direction. Just don't get offended with the sarcastic, and funny as all hell, answers

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Old 10-12-2013, 03:42 PM   #3
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Thanks, Monkeychow. Appreciate the advice. Were you happy with how things looked with the 1.5' SPACERS or would you have gone to 2" if you did it over again?
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Old 10-12-2013, 05:12 PM   #4
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I think it looks perfect. I was just trying to get away from the 'sucked in' look. Maybe someone offers it in a 2" but I couldn't find it. There is a warning label with the spacers PLEASE read it and follow the directions!! Drive around for about 100 miles then take the wheels off and check to see that the lug nuts on the spacers are still tight. I had a two mustangs with rear wheel spacers and this Jeep, and never had a single one come loose. But check it anyway. And when you rotate the tires check it then too. It doesn't take much time and it is waaay better than being the guy in the breakdown lane, that we all laugh at, because he is sitting on the brake rotor!!

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Old 10-12-2013, 06:06 PM   #5
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Sorry, but I am waiting for a cheap 60s Japanese movie to brake out here...between "Appzilla" and "Monkeychow"! Lol
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:47 PM   #6
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Thanks, again,monkeychow. Above and beyond posting those pictures. Exactly the look I am going for.
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Old 10-14-2013, 05:43 AM   #7
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You're very welcome Appzilla! I know I haven't done tons my Jeep yet, but I can gladly pass on whatever advice I can. In the process of installing some LED light bars and wiring them up clean. I will post you some pics when that is completed. Any questions about anything fell free to PM me and I will do what I can to help you out! By the way you're gonna have a blast with your Jeep!!!
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:31 AM   #9
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I have a '13 Rubicon. Bought the Poison Spyder 1.5" wheel spacers. It brings the rear tires approx 1" outside the fender, and the front about 3/4". They are sold in PAIRS so you must get two pairs, and were $80. I'm sure someone will tell you this isn't the best brand because of. . . .But I liked the fact they were black and basically disappeared behind the rims. Other companies make them in anodized red or blue, wasn't the look I was going for. Can't help you with suspension questions, I am planning on enjoying the build and doing a little bit at a time. This forum is great, though I have only posted a few times, I have been reading comments for almost a year. Many people seem really eager to help and point new and old members in the right direction. Just don't get offended with the sarcastic, and funny as all hell, answers
Did you add the spacers without a lift? I am on my first Jeep and I will do a lift in the future, probably 2.5", but I know I want to keep my stock rims which means I will have to add spacers. I was hoping to just add the spacers now to achieve the wider stance and pretty much exactly the same look you have with the tires out just past the fenders. Everything I have read says that this shouldn't be done because it creates handling issues because of the change in angles that the additional space creates yet I see people like you doing this so I think it can't be that bad? So my question is, did it change anything in terms of handling and quality of the ride?

Sorry for jumping in on this thread, Monkeychow seemed really willing to help us newbies so I thought I'd throw my question at him. I'm dying to get my tires outside my fenders lol
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:33 PM   #10
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Unbroken1 it doesn't change the handling. Keep in mind it's a Jeep, not a sportscar. On the two mustangs I had it may have made the cornering better, but I doubt it! All the vehicles I have done this too was just for looks. But like I stressed to Appizilla you must check the lugs on the spacers somewhat frequently!! And yes my Rubicon has the stock suspension.
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- I am looking at buying the 2014 Rubicon wheels and tires from a take off. Will these fit on my Sports S without any modification? Yes, they will fit fine
- It doesn't look like my stock sport s tires and wheels will sell for much. If I keep them, will the tires from my sport s fit on the rubicon wheels? If I remember correctly, sport is 16in rims and Saharan and rubicon is 17in rims. So your old tires will not fit on the rubi rims
- What spacer size and brand would you recommend to achieve a wider look without looking too big? It seems like I'd like the new rubicon tires to "show" beyond the fenders about 1.5"
- what height lift should I consider to get a slightly bigger look? How much should I expect to pay to have this done? No bigger than 2.5 with a 2door and 3.5 with 4 door. After that you will need to start changing a lot of other things.

I got the 2.5 teraflex leveling BB kit and am fairly happy. Wish I would have gone to a 3in kit though.
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:52 PM   #12
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The Sport S has 17" rims. The tires from the Sport will fit on the rubi rims.
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:59 PM   #13
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The Sport S has 17" rims. The tires from the Sport will fit on the rubi rims.
There ya go. Thanks for correcting me.
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Unbroken1 it doesn't change the handling. Keep in mind it's a Jeep, not a sportscar. On the two mustangs I had it may have made the cornering better, but I doubt it! All the vehicles I have done this too was just for looks. But like I stressed to Appizilla you must check the lugs on the spacers somewhat frequently!! And yes my Rubicon has the stock suspension.
Thanks a lot! I just wanted to hear from someone's experience that it's safe since I drive my Jeep everyday and on the highway. Love how yours looks, hate mine with the invisible tires lol.
Looks like I'm going to JustJeeps this weekend!
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Old 10-14-2013, 03:35 PM   #15
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You're welcome! I'll admit it, I was standing there fueling it up the first time thinking "that looks horrible..decent tires, yet it looks stupid!" Funny how many people ask me what kind of lift I have on it. Just because the tires are out a bit
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:31 PM   #16
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So I have done a 4 inch rough country lift with 35 Bf Goodrich KM2's. Since then it's like every time I go off roading my alignment is off and my ABS activates and I have to pull the fuse to drive. My gas mileage has gone out the door because it feels like my jeep takes forever to change gears. What can I do to solve some of these issues? D I go with a computer and if so which one. Thanks to who ever helps out.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:30 PM   #17
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You need a procal from AEV to change your tire size which should automatically adjust your shift points. Right now the jeep doesn't know what speed it is traveling at.

Your steering wheel probably needs centered which will cause the electronic breaking control stuff to freak out . You can center it yourself in a couple minutes or take it back if you had a shop install the lift. Look up how to center your steering wheel, there's probably a hundred threads on it.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:40 PM   #18
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I put aftermarket wheels and tires on my 2013 Sport S JKU. Like you I was concerned about how far the tires would stick out. I'd recommend you research and get to know the wheel offset (spacing is similar but I found looking at the offset is good enough) of both the stock wheels and whatever you're looking at to buy. The stock wheels are tucked in quite a bit as compared to most of the aftermarkets. I found this link very helpful http://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html

I also found the Info Center on Discount tires site very helpful, and this is a good link to compare tire sizes Tire Dimensions Made Simple - Discount Tire

I found it very helpful to get some graph paper and layout the stock wheels offset as compared to the aftermarkets. Taking about 30 minutes and getting to know the terminology and details is well worth your time to make sure you get just the look you want.

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