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Old 03-10-2012, 01:06 PM   #1
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Rubi or Sahara?

Pulling the trigger on a '12 JK Unlimited and have been back and fourth on which model -- rubi or sahara. My use is going to be primarily a DD with some beach/sand duty in the summer. I know the Sahara will be a better road car, but I like the set up of the Rubi's and I don't mind paying up for the difference. I have not been able to test drive one yet as all the dealers around here have Saharas, but finding a rubi is tough. A couple of questions from owners:
- How is the rubi as a DD vs. sahara? Much louder? Handling with the tires?

I see doing a few things to either one. Maybe a more rugged bumber. And wheels and tires if I go in the sahara direction. Just want to customize a bit in the rugged direction and make it more unique. Plus, there are a ton of Sahara around here and few rubicons.

In terms of colors: 1st choice BFG/Tan leather. 2nd choice Black/Tan. Black hard top (not color painted). And Either the sunrider top or the Offroad Heros version.

Anyway, need to lock it down and purchase before my lease runs out in mid-april.

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Old 03-10-2012, 01:14 PM   #2
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By your description it doesn't sound like you 'need' the Rubicon. So, from a sheer 'needs' perspective, the Sahara will work fine for you ... And will be less expensive and a bit quieter with the road bias tires.

But, if you want/like the Rubi better for whatever reason, go for it!

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i have a rubi and its my DD in my opinion its the way to go lockers disconect and gears from the factory. better to have them and not need them ,than to need them and not have them . but i use mine off road a lot.
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My Rubi is a daily driver. No issues at all. Lockers, gears and resale.
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:47 PM   #5
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Are you not looking at the sport as well?
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:57 PM   #6
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Just about anyone that is in the position to ask this question should go with the rubi. No matter that you have no plans to use the capabilities you never can say "I won't ever". Better to have and not need than to need and have to lay out 1,000's to get later. And the resale will be there no matter what.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:00 PM   #7
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I bought Rubicon simpley because of looks and features. Tires wear out. You can always put on different tires. But I like the off-road capabilities.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:35 PM   #8
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Either and you'll be happy I'm sure.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:42 PM   #9
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Just about anyone that is in the position to ask this question should go with the rubi. No matter that you have no plans to use the capabilities you never can say "I won't ever". Better to have and not need than to need and have to lay out 1,000's to get later. And the resale will be there no matter what.
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I bought Rubicon simpley because of looks and features. Tires wear out. You can always put on different tires. But I like the off-road capabilities.
I'm in agreement with both of these views.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:45 PM   #10
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Plus a Rubi is about the only thing that will make many other Jeep owners drool on themselves.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:47 PM   #11
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I could have traded my '10 Sahara for a '12 Rubi for about 10 grand;
But am in the process of building a Rubiclone out of my Sahara for about 7500!! Or maybe it is going to be a Saharacon-- haven't decided yet!!!
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:42 PM   #12
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I traded my 09 "sport" for a 2012 Rubi for about the same payment. I drove a loaner 12 Sahara for a week until my Rubi arrived. Great jeep but not what I wanted. I didn't want to do a bunch of mods and have it all covered under the warranty. My 09 was used, never had a problem except for the infamous 4wd nylon bushing. I now have a glovebox full of them and don't know if they even work on a 12. About everything in it is an improvement IMO.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:44 PM   #13
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Around these parts a new JKUR and a JKUS are with a few dollars of each other. So we got her the Rubicon.

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Old 03-10-2012, 03:53 PM   #14
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This is my second rubicon. I currently own a 2012 jkur. Honestly from your original post. I would say get the sahara. You don't need a rubicon. If you were planning on going Offroad that would be one thing. If you want it strictly as a status symbol and bragging rights that is another. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket that's another. I bought my rubicon with the intention of lifting and heavily modifing. I plan on offroading and rock crawling. A sahara will meet your needs.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:53 PM   #15
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I have a '12 Sahara and my only regret is that I don't have a '12 Rubicon.

If you get hooked on offroading like I did, first jeep, you'll spend much less making your Rubi into what you want.

To date
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I wouldn't have "needed" the re-gear and locker if I had gone with the Rubicon. All the other stuff just makes me happy.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:59 PM   #16
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Plus a Rubi is about the only thing that will make many other Jeep owners drool on themselves.
X2 had alot of people drool on mine so far!!
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:01 PM   #17
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Should be rubi or sport. No reason whatsoever to buy a sahara unless you like bling on your jeep. Save the money and buy a sport and mod it with that $3k left over from the sahara. There is no functional mechanical difference between a sahara and a sport.
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:03 PM   #18
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Here are some observations or thoughts about owning both. I had a 2009 Sahara and I now own a 2011 Rubicon. Both daily drivers, both utility vehicles.

I use my vehicles to get me places and carry my gear to hunt (mostly picture taking now), fish, hike, bike, etc... The trails are fun but are not my main purpose to drive. Covered the same areas, roads and trails with both. 6800 miles on the Sahara and currently 10,000 miles on the Rubicon. Both went through two seasons each. The Sahara got less miles because of needing my pickup on a couple of trips. Hauling stuff for family.

Honestly, as a daily driver not much difference other than gas mileage. For 99% of my use, the Sahara served my purposes. I actually needed/used (instead of playing around) the Rubicon's lockers once. But a Sahara with a winch would have pulled me out of the situation at the time. I do not even come close to using a Rubicon to its full capabilities.

Why did I trade up? Medical issues with knees and hip forced me to get rid of the 6-speed manual. Excuse me while I will now have to set down my man card for a moment. I fully understand all capabilities, models and engineering behind each Jeep model. I've wheeled for over 30 years and have the scars to prove it. Why the Rubicon???? My wife liked the COLOR of the Rubicon better than the Sahara and Sport I was considering. At the time, she couldn't understand why I had such a huge smile on my face. Once in a while you get lucky and go with the flow.

Now what I consider the funny part, the psychological difference between the Rubicon and Sahara...

With many years of off-roading experience, maneuvers/lines I would have never even considered with one of my pickups or the Sahara; now with the Rubicon, while on some trails the kid in me wants to tempt and scream at me to "just try it". I now find myself playing "trail roulette". Safe path or "I bet the Rubi can make it." This is not good, since most of the time I am by myself. I can admit that the adult in me has not won all of these battles.

Good luck with your decision. You'll be happy with either.
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With many years of off-roading experience, maneuvers/lines I would have never even considered with one of my pickups or the Sahara; now with the Rubicon, while on some trails the kid in me wants to tempt and scream at me to "just try it". I now find myself playing "trail roulette". Safe path or "I bet the Rubi can make it." This is not good, since most of the time I am by myself. I can admit that the adult in me has not won all of these battles.

Good luck with your decision. You'll be happy with either.[/QUOTE]
its funny how that works LOL i find myself doing the same
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If you were planning on going Offroad that would be one thing. If you want it strictly as a status symbol and bragging rights that is another. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket that's another. I bought my rubicon with the intention of lifting and heavily modifing. I plan on offroading and rock crawling. A sahara will meet your needs.
I love you guys who condescend to those of us who don't rock crawl. Clearly if you don't, the only other reason you could possibly want a Wrangler is "status symbol and bragging rights." I would think we could all appreciate that the Wrangler is the most BA vehicle out there.
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I love you guys who condescend to those of us who don't rock crawl. Clearly if you don't, the only other reason you could possibly want a Wrangler is "status symbol and bragging rights." I would think we could all appreciate that the Wrangler is the most BA vehicle out there.
Yeah that comment was a little overboard. Plenty of good offroading to be done in a sport or a sahara.
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Old 03-11-2012, 04:17 AM   #22
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UNO, the OP said Rubi or sahara how are they as daily drivers. He also said use: daily driver and beach/ sand duty. My Rubi is a daily driver and honestly the stock tires throw the vehicle all over the road. The stock mud terrains are happier on trails and have no siping. I test drove 5 wranglers before I bought this one. I didn't think less of the others. I bought the Rubi.

B) he also said he doesn't mind paying up the difference. So buy the Rubi

4) I definitely agree get the Rubi and you shouldn't have to regear (depending on terrain and tire size) and if the Offroad bug gets you then you have an awesome platform. So definitely get Rubi.

As someone who uses front lockers and 4:1 low (note: not condesntion , stating a fact. I use lockers and 4:1) if I wasn't going to use them then I wouldn't get a rubicon mostly because 2:1 4 wheel low is more practical for more Offroad scenerios than 4:1 if I'm not wanting to move at a turtles pace. I like the slow 4:1 so I can carefully pick my line. Most instances 4 high is too fast and in 4low I am the one everyone is waiting for. Most people I wheel with don't have Rubi's and they do just fine.

Are sahara's able to choose rear lockers. I thought they were.

With the new motor and transmission the 3.73 gears would do wonderful for dd and 33" tires. (disclaimer, tires play a big part in how vehicle handles and mpg)

Now if the OP wants 35" then 4:10's in a Rubi are bare minium depending on terrain. Flat land. Sure then the Rubi is a no brainer. But if you live or drive on hills and don't use front lockers and want to run 35s then most likely regearing to 4.56 will be the way to go.
Then it's a horse a piece. (6 in one half dozen in the other, for you non central pa folks)


jeeps are jeeps. I love and appreciate them all. I was saying the OP should make an honest appraisal of his needs and then re-evaluate choice based on needs. Based on his post. I didn't see anything that looked like the rubicon was a good choice for him other than he doesn't mind paying up the difference. hence if he has money to burn then by all means go with the Rubi.

As far as rock crawling and less than or condescending. I think anyone that does rock crawl loves to introduce people who own jeeps to rock crawling. It's not condscending it's really rewarding. And think most guys that have 37" tires still love helping a fellow jeeper on 31" tires spot across a rock garden because most jeep owners will never know just how capable their dd really is. What jeep lover doesn't love to talk about jeeps.

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Old 03-11-2012, 04:25 AM   #23
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Rubi's and sahara's are both wranglers. no where did I say anything about wranglers being used as status symbols. I said if one of the reasons you are buying a vehicle is a status symbol than choose the Rubi.
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Thanks all. I had searched posts before, but these comments help. Spending some time on this site leads to a bit of scope creep I think. I started out thinking the Sahara fit the bill. Then I found this forum and now I'm thinking I'd like to try some off-roading, maybe get to some remote trout streams. Why not do a little modding? I like to wrench a bit on weekends. And that's where I am. I agree that they are all good choices. I have between now and mid-April to locate the vehicle and then the real fun will start.
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Even though we bought used, we didn't like the matching painted fender flares on the Sahara's and now it seems they all have cracking paint problems, so can't imagine what happens off road. Mostly we have a daily driver, so cut the middle with a special sport and put on Sahara wheels and tires.
This vehicle is a very limited edition and only made in Feb. 2010, but one should be able to mod and set them themselves up with what they like in a new sport also.
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I don't know where your from. But if you are near any Farabee Jeep rental, rent one and take a trail. They have nice rentals. You might be suprised at what you might want to do with your own jeep. They are in Moab, Death Valley and several locations in Colorado. It's a Jeep thing you know.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:42 PM   #27
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Get the Rubi, with 4.10 gears (gives a nice boost off the line, something appreciable even as a daily driver vehicle).

I don't think anyone with a Rubicon ever thinks, I should have gotten a Sahara....but the reverse seems to come up in these forums all the time.

Think about it.

PS: And yes, skip the painted fenders...on the Rubicon you'd actually have to pay extra for them anyway. Less paint to wax, and the contrast highlights the Jeep shape better, IMHO.
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