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Old 09-14-2013, 09:52 PM   #1
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Guys, I am very close to pulling the trigger on a new Rubicon X. In a conversation with a dealer today, he said some things that I want some expert opinions on.

In short, he made the comment that driving a Rubicon on the road "is just going to beat it up" and implied that it is meant to only be used off road. As rediculous as this sounded to me, it left me feeling like I would cause harm to a Rubicon if I used it solely as a daily driver. Is there ANY validity to his claims that if I only drive it on the road, it will cause damage or premature wear?

Also...this same individual indicated the KM's will only last 12,000 miles or so...how true is this.

Thanks in advance.

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Guys, I am very close to pulling the trigger on a new Rubicon X. In a conversation with a dealer today, he said some things that I want some expert opinions on.

In short, he made the comment that driving a Rubicon on the road "is just going to beat it up" and implied that it is meant to only be used off road. As rediculous as this sounded to me, it left me feeling like I would cause harm to a Rubicon if I used it solely as a daily driver. Is there ANY validity to his claims that if I only drive it on the road, it will cause damage or premature wear?

Also...this same individual indicated the KM's will only last 12,000 miles or so...how true is this.

Thanks in advance.
Go to another dealer. Rubicon is as good as a sport on the road. Sounds weird saying that.

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Rule #1: Don't believe anything you hear from a salesperson at the dealership. Let me guess! They didn't have a Rubicon on their lot, right?

He was probably trying to sell you the sahara he had on the lot.
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Haha BS. Tires might be noisier but it will handle surprisingly well, especially if an Unlimited. FYI, my KMs have plenty of tread and I'm over 40k
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My wifes rubi is her DD, the family road trip wagon and her weekend rock warrior, your salesperson is a MORON! My in-laws were going through a similar situation when they started looking at jeeps, 3 salespeople later they finally got one that knew jeeps and sold them what they wanted.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:11 PM   #6
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Buy it, and do not worry at about what the dealer said. My 2013 JKUR is not only my daily driver (16k miles since we bought it in late March) it has turned into our primary family vehicle replacing my wife's Pacifica due to comfort. It also has performed amazing on the trails about a dozen times since getting it.
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Please buy from a different dealer. He does no know the first thing about jeeps.
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Me and my Rubicon will tell you it's not true. Sales person sounds like a tool with limited knowledge. If it seems like you're not getting a great deal, go someplace else.
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In 6 months I put on 22,000 miles on my 13 JKUR and while it doesn't handle quite as good as my Sahara, it will once I change the tires and widen the stance. It is a very roadworthy vehicle and you're salesman is a freaking lying moron.

I'd say go to another dealer if you want, but I prefer to stay at the same dealer and demand a new salesman from the sales manager. I like pointing out salesperson's flaws to those that manage them.
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My wifes rubi is her DD, the family road trip wagon and her weekend rock warrior, your salesperson is a MORON! My in-laws were going through a similar situation when they started looking at jeeps, 3 salespeople later they finally got one that knew jeeps and sold them what they wanted.
I had this same experience. Did my research and just shook my head and corrected the salespeople time and time again. I know it's just their job, but they don't seem to have any expertise
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Guys, I am very close to pulling the trigger on a new Rubicon X. In a conversation with a dealer today, he said some things that I want some expert opinions on.

In short, he made the comment that driving a Rubicon on the road "is just going to beat it up" and implied that it is meant to only be used off road. As rediculous as this sounded to me, it left me feeling like I would cause harm to a Rubicon if I used it solely as a daily driver. Is there ANY validity to his claims that if I only drive it on the road, it will cause damage or premature wear?

Also...this same individual indicated the KM's will only last 12,000 miles or so...how true is this.

Thanks in advance.
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My wife and I both have a Rubicon as a daily, I would find a smarter salesperson/dealership.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:25 PM   #13
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One last thing, do your own research on here and other websites like it. It'll be very helpful. Then go to whatever dealership gives you the most benefit, whether it be price, location, services or customer service.

Jeep you order is going to be the same no matter what the salesperson knows or doesn't know. Figure out on your own what you want, then shop for a good dealership
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Car buying rule #1: If a salesman lies to you, he will also cheat you. One lie, zero tolerance - never deal with that salesman again.

I had a salesjerk try to tell me that the 2011 I was looking at had the new 3.6L Pentastar engine. I walked into the sales office, told the GM to never let that salesman come near me again. Next salesman was great! He got the order for my 2012.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:36 PM   #15
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Car buying rule #1: If a salesman lies to you, he will also cheat you. One lie, zero tolerance - never deal with that salesman again.

I had a salesjerk try to tell me that the 2011 I was looking at had the new 3.6L Pentastar engine. I walked into the sales office, told the GM to never let that salesman come near me again. Next salesman was great! He got the order for my 2012.
When my in-laws were picking up their new jkur a salesasshole argued with me about the the 14's having a new, bigger engine than my wifes 13. I think these idiots could sell more if they knew what they were selling.
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The jk platform, any model is decent on road. Is the ride like a Cadillac ? No but compared to previous models its improved. Longer stock control arms really make a difference on and off road. The stock rubi shocks are also pretty decent.
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I suppose he might be thinking if you have 4.10 gears and stock tires and drive 80-85mph (common in many areas) that it won't be your best choice as a DD. True story I was at the dealer the other day and had a conversation with a guy who said he did not like his rubicon because it had 4.10 gearing and was too buzzy at highway speed. He said he traveled the interstate between Missoula Mt and Dillon Mt on a regular basis and he was looking for sahara with 3.21's. I wanted to trade him my sport but he wanted a sahara.
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Car buying rule #1: If a salesman lies to you, he will also cheat you. One lie, zero tolerance - never deal with that salesman again.

I had a salesjerk try to tell me that the 2011 I was looking at had the new 3.6L Pentastar engine. I walked into the sales office, told the GM to never let that salesman come near me again. Next salesman was great! He got the order for my 2012.
I'm pretty sure anyone here who reads this site and researches what they want can find enough info to go in and talk circles around a lot of sales folk (the bad ones anyway) I've found that a lot of them just really don't know their product...that's bad business...I had one guy tell me that half doors were no longer an option and that Jeep no longer offered them because they weren't selling...said I could only get aftermarket ones...seriously? then he tried to talk me into something on the lot...ridiculous...Someone here recemmended me to the guy he used locally, this dude knew his stuff and didn't BS me...he got my business and I've already pointed another friend his way...
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I owned a 2010 JKU and now I have a 2014 JKUR. They feel pretty much the same, so don't listen to that guy. Don't ever deal with that salesmen again. I just bought the JKUR and my salesman told me he didn't have to accept my affiliate price (I think they have to). So that made me mad, so I walked. He called the next day and I told him the price I wanted, another $500 extra for the trade and $318 off the price. He said I can give u the 500 but the 318 we will talk about when you get here. I said yeah I will see you in 30 min. Haha I never showed up and really made him mad (screw him I still dislike that f*****). A different manager i liked called me and offered the 500 plus the 318. Too good of a deal to walk away from so I bought.

I like messing with sales people because I am in sales as well. I don't lie though when I sell and that guy just straight told me crap that I didn't even care about. Without such a great deal I would of never been back. 2% below invoice and an extra $2500 on my trade in, I had to sign the dotted line.

Walk on that guy unless you can get a great deal.
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The salesman is just that a sales man and not very good at it. I recently was at our local dealer test driving the 2014 cherokee for my wife and I was telling the salesman stuff about the vehicle while we were in the car that he didn't even know. The cherokee is one of the best selling if not The best selling SUV's in the last decade…don't you think he should've known what he was selling. Fact is many don't. I hate to say it but my rubi see's way more pavement than dirt.
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I'm pretty sure anyone here who reads this site and researches what they want can find enough info to go in and talk circles around a lot of sales folk (the bad ones anyway) I've found that a lot of them just really don't know their product...that's bad business...I had one guy tell me that half doors were no longer an option and that Jeep no longer offered them because they weren't selling...said I could only get aftermarket ones...seriously? then he tried to talk me into something on the lot...ridiculous...Someone here recemmended me to the guy he used locally, this dude knew his stuff and didn't BS me...he got my business and I've already pointed another friend his way...
Sometimes the DA's that don't know their product are the easiest ones to deal with in my opinion. I like dealing with them because we can cut straight through the BS and get to talking real numbers. It's also good to know what kind of interest rate you qualify for so you don't have to talk monthly payment and can talk real numbers. Also, OP if you can wait until a little later in the month they will come down off the price even more because they will have a monthly quota to meet.
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Old 09-15-2013, 12:06 AM   #22
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A month ago I traded my '12 JKUR for a '14 JKUR. It had almost 53K miles. The BFG's are probably good for 50k.

JKUR == great ride.
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I picked up my JKUR in late March this year. To date, I've got 20K miles on it. About 18K of those are interstate. It runs and rides excellent. The only issue for me would be having the 4.10 rear as it uses a bit more fuel. I try to keep it at 65/70MPH, which keeps the "eco" light on. I've been getting about 23MPG. The dealer who made that statement was very misinformed - except for it being excellent offroad - it is the most capable "out-of-the-box" vehicle ever produced, in my humble opinion.
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Yep what they said. Most car sales men don't know jack. A lot come from other lines of work, got laid off, selling cars was the fist thing they found. I went to at least 5 dif dealers before I made up my mind what I wanted. Same story from all the sales guys I talked to.

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Maybe the salesman OP is talking about might be easier to deal with.

When I bought my JKU a few months ago the salesman didn't know anything besides the doors & tops could come off. I knew exactly what I wanted anyway so we were able to cut through all the B.S. & I was out of there within an hour with my new Jeep.

I mean, a lot of Jeepers already know what they want stepping into a Jeep dealership. The Salesman having the same knowledge & brain as the Jeep Technicians, Engineers, etc. does nothing for me.
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The Rubicon's are great for both on highway and off road!
This is a fact, so believe it!!!!!!!!!!
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As a daily driver do not expect a luxury ride--the Rubi is not designed to provide a greats on road ride--it is designed to provide performance off road--so like all vehicles it needs to compromise something. On the Crappy northern Maine roads the ride is similar to a a 1/2 ton pickup wheel hop and stability control light coming on from time to time---on smooth pavement it rides like good--but so does a 1 ton Dodge pickup. I am not saying it cannot be a DD --it is just not it's strength. Other members will say it rides awesome on the road--but it is what you compare it to--compared to my 82 CJ with 35's and 4 inches of lift the ruby is a Caddy. Will driving the Rubi on road hurt it--no. Will it perform on pavement as well as off road--no but it is not suppose to
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I picked up my JKUR in late March this year. To date, I've got 20K miles on it. About 18K of those are interstate. It runs and rides excellent. The only issue for me would be having the 4.10 rear as it uses a bit more fuel. I try to keep it at 65/70MPH, which keeps the "eco" light on. I've been getting about 23MPG. The dealer who made that statement was very misinformed - except for it being excellent offroad - it is the most capable "out-of-the-box" vehicle ever produced, in my humble opinion.
That is interesting what you say about the 4.10 gearing. I have 3.73 in my PU and was going to opt for 4.10 when I finally order my Rubi. Other than slightly worse gas mileage than 3.73 is there really any downside to a 4.10 rear?

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That is interesting what you say about the 4.10 gearing. I have 3.73 in my PU and was going to opt for 4.10 when I finally order my Rubi. Other than slightly worse gas mileage than 3.73 is there really any downside to a 4.10 rear? ADee
Not really. I got 3.73's in my Sahara only because there wasn't a 4.10 option.
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Wow! I think the salesman is actually correct. Please don't drive these very fragile Rubicons on the street. Even worse than the wear and tear, however, is how dirty it will get. Then you have to wash it, and watch out if Rubi's get wet!

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