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Old 07-15-2013, 10:06 AM   #31
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What was the price on your set up? Maybe I missed it.
Under a grand for everything. RE kit, jks discos, teraflex exhaust spacers, and aev geometry brackets.

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I found the pictures!!! This is the reason y I took the easier routes. I don't have enough armor to do anything like this. I'm glad wf member "theloneran6er" came out with just a few door/hinge scars. It could've been much worse.

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How much lift did you actually gain w/ basically stock weight?
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^i didn't really measure. Given I have a soft top and no armor, its higher than advertised.
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Thanks Dawhites! I got a little more insight today when I had the repair done.
First, what looks like happened, is someone just did a 2.5" Rubicon Express Economy Spring Spacer lift before I bought it. A bit disappointed learning that!.....
So, first thing I did was acquire the "Bar Pin Eliminator Kit" from 4Wheel parts to eliminate the chance of shearing off my bar pin in the future. While I had the shocks down anyways on the lift, I had the stock upper bushings replaced with the "Energy Suspension" Poly Bushings.
So now I at least have a working suspension again. Then I read more posts on here regarding springs and suspension lifts. I discovered by springs are not even Rubicon Express springs, they are just stock springs. So, this afternoon I went back down to 4Wheel Drive parts and had a nice chat with Jon in there and worked out a deal on doing a 3.5" Spring lift on the rear end for now, and then I'll get the front done in the fall. I have just TOO MUCH weight hanging off my rear end to NOT doing anything at all. I added my weight up and it's pretty scarey!

I have (4) 20Litre NATO Jerry cans on the back of my Jeep - 230lbs
I have a P285 70R 17 M+S Tire hanging off my Carrier - 110lbs
I have a stubby Rancho Rock Off-Road Bumper w/Tire Carrier-90+ lbs
I have a Hi-Lift Jack mounted on my bumper - 32lbs
I have (2) 20Litre Plastic Jerry Cans for Water - When filled - 83lbs
I have (2) 10" Subs in a Sub Box - 23lbs
I have gear in the back area (Recovery Bag with straps) - 50lbs
I have (2) kids that sit in the back on our off road trips - 180lbs
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You can kinda get where I'm going with this.....wow! 798lbs!!

So, my concern is that the stock springs are not going to cut it and that maybe part of my problem why I keep breaking suspension related items when I get out on the trail.
So, Jon said the 3.5" Rubicon Express Spring Lift will get me some stiffer springs, more height and greater weight capacity. With all the weight hanging off my rear end, it should not be a whole lot more noticeable than what I have right now. I'll just be in better shape.

Any comments guys?
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Nice rig. I can't comment on the 3.5 nor he 2.5 with armor since I don't a definite answer for u. The others that I know which are running the 2.5 or 3.5 didn't add any additional weight too. I don't wanna give you a wrong answer...hopefully others can chime in
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I think this thread may have changed my mind about what I might do for an entry level lift. After about 1.5 hours of my own research I can say I'm changing direction on my initial choice of company to go with. Seems this is a real contender for the budget minded 2.5" lift JK owner. AEV dualsport is similar but uses either dual rate or progressive rate springs and adds a new rear track bar instead of relocates the stock bar.

I'm not a huge fan of progressive rate springs and dual rates just provide fewer active coils 90% of the time unless you unload a corner enough to use those lighter coils (which don't have much force to them anyway since they are designed to bind at stock ride height). Progressives can produce less predictable handling at the limits as they ramp up in rebound force.


RE uses a monotube shock in this kit like the AEV (teraflex uses twin tube)
RE uses single rate springs, a plus in my book
RE costs 25% less then AEV and 10% less then teraflex

RE monotube 2.5 kit with AEV brackets sounds like a real winner and I had completely disregarded this option.

Also looked at metalcloak but then the price doubles although get some control arms with the kit.

may allow a lift to come sooner then I expected if I can do a nice setup for a weekend warrior DD for under $800!
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^yes its definitely great for the price compared to other reputable brands... so far so good and i speak in high volumes because i'm more than satisfied on/offroad.
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I went ahead myself and took the plunge on the RE 3.5" Superflex Short Arm Upgrade. I am doing it rather "unconventionally" though. I am doing the rear first because of all the extra weight I'm packing back there, then I'll upgrade the front probably in Sept. The front is generally where more of the cost is with Control arms, Front DS, Tracking arm, etc...so the rear end is only going to run me about $650 now, then I'll pay the piper for the front end in a bit.
I think I've made the wise choice. I've got a local 4Wheel Truck Parts location right here in SoCal and Jon in the store is a SUPER great guy. He sat for over 1.5 hours helping me figure out how to do this!

Wish me luck!
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^i wish my local 4wp was that helpful. Good thing i have the wf community and my local jeepers to give me advice. Keep us posted
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Excuse me being a complete noob here and asking a question. Someday I do plan on lifting my stock 2 door 2013 J/K and I am completey impressed by your ongoing review of this. I see your Jeep still has the stock bumper w/o a winch. I am thinking about a new bumper and winch someday. Would your exact set up be OK for a bumper/winch combo. I was also looking for a different rear bumper and eventually going with 33 or 35's.
Am I getting out of the range for what you have as a set up if so what would you suggest?
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^thats my plan as well. I'm getting some Rock sliders next month... Upgrade my front bumper before the year ends and rear tire carrier/bumper combo w/ regear next year.

I talked to RE and they said they can replace my coils to 3.5 if I'm not satisfied. The lift is more than advertised and should perform to its specs with added weight. I forgot to tell everyone that the kit was r&d with full armor including winch to net around 2.5.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Once again a noob question. I know you have a 4 door, would your exact set up be used in a 2 door or is there something I am missing or maybe have too much of? Example is I have no problem with putting in the exhaust spacers but do I need them with a 2 door?
What I would like to do is basically duplicate exactly what you have proven works but I want to make sure I am not missing something between a 2 door and a 4 door Jeep.
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^nothing. Expect a higher lift on ur jeep. However i could be mistaken. RE customer service can answer that question since both kits have different part numbers.
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I will call RE Support. My only other question for them will also be if I have to do anything with my driveshaft(s) if I get more lift. I appreciate all of your great help. Thanks!
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^i highly doubt it. Each jeep is different and if ur gonna plan on flexing ur jeep, then I'd say get the exhaust spacer, or driveshaft. I left out the y pipe bcuz u could Adams driveshaft for about 100 more. Either go cheap solution or straight to the solution the first time. I have a buddy with a 2013 rubi and his ds crapped out on him wheeling. He wasn't informed of the ds problem with the 2012+.
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1000+ Mile Update


You know how they say wine gets better with age. RE 2.5 gets better when fully loaded…about 800lbs fully loaded. After 1000 or so miles, the performance hardly changed at all from the last 500 mile break in review. It’s just me and the jeep most of the time but I finally had the chance to have passengers/cargo aboard. About 700lbs in passenger weight (4 adults, two 40lbs dogs, one 10lbs dog) and another 100 lbs of luggage.
The suspension felt more of a sports sedan. Body wander stays the same which is pretty much improved over stock, but with the extra weight…it took the uneven pavements, and railroad tracks phenomenally. I say phenomenally because you could hear the railroad tracks, and harsh pavement roads but you can hardly feel it. The suspension absorbed a very high % of the impact to my surprise.
I went on a wheeling trip yesterday and I didn’t disconnect. The jeep wasn’t fully loaded. Perhaps 450lbs extra weight and quite frankly it did its job. It was perhaps a 4-5 hour run and the shocks didn’t fatigue in any way…I was more fatigued than the suspension. Waking up super early to hit up the trail, being rocked back and forth, trying to pick up lines, and carefully inching through obstacles…that combination alone is pretty demanding. After the trip, I checked the shocks for any leaks, the coils for any movement…None whatsoever. Aired up, and drove home which took about an hour. The monosteins didn’t “sponge” up at any time.




Looks like I’ll be purchasing some add on weights sooner than later as I am pleased with the RE 2.5 at full weight.
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I just installed the RE 3.5 kit w/RE shocks last week and couldn't be happier with the ride. Excellent write up btw.
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^thanks... if you think its great right now, try adding on some weight to it. You'll love the ride even more. Its G spot is right at 800lbs of additional weight.
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Interesting about weight. Surely this is the result of the jeep going down a bit in height which adds to the better handling. As you point out, the jeep unloaded is comfortable but the handling improves with added weight restricting the height.

Time for some new bumpers.
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oh yes sir!!! i'm already daydreaming of upgrades.
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I forget if you installed the exhaust spacer with the 2.5?
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yes i did. My friend friend with a 2dr fried his driveshaft w/ his 2.5 teraflex. he wasn't aware of the exhaust spacer (4wp sold it to him and they weren't very versed with the new jks)... so i purchased it as a $45 insurance. So far so good.
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This is a great review. Thanks for posting this. I'm currently researching a 2.5" coil lift to go with my new 285/70R17 Duratracs. I had been leaning towards the TF kit, but after reading this, I'm really thinking about going this route. I had looked past RE due to some quality issues I had read in the past. It sounds like things have turned around for them.

Do you have any new updates you can share since your last post on 7/31?
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I'm probably over 1500 miles with the kit and so far so great. I believe the 1000 mile review is already to the point of being settled. No loss in height though. Once I add more weight I'll add more reviews since it performs way better than expected being weighed down. It feels like my dads Lexus GX470 with air suspension....yes I said it...IT FEELS LIKE LUXURY on the road besides the noise from my soft top and my cheap speakers and seats.
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I know you did the Tereflex spacers, any problems with noise, leaks? I was just thinking if I do this I may just pull the trigger on a new drive shaft. I know it adds a bunch and I am still not sure of the spacers and their longevity. I live in the rust belt, they coat our streets with liquid salt as well as rock salt in the winter. I would hate to be chiseling those spacers off in 2 years. BTW thanks again for a great review. When I do lift, it is going to be with this combo because of your great detail. I just may sub the shaft for the spacers.
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Thanks. The teraflex exhaust spacers are holding up great. No rust, but then again I live in socal. It's been exposed to sand, dirt, water, and mud. It's been over a month but its been basically been through the elements I exposed it to. You can do the spacers for 50 until the driveshaft fails (if it ever does). You can opt for an Adams driveshaft to replace the exhaust spacers. Cheapest/well made/and very reputable/ and referred by many jk enthusiasts.
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I have a 2013 2 Door Sport. I am planning on purchasing the RE 2.5 lift with monotubes this week as the lift sounds like it performs phenomenally. My only question is should I go with the lift for the 2 door or the lift for the 4 door, as I plan to add rock sliders and bumpers by the years end. I'm sure the 4 door lift is stiffer and will provide more lift, but is it a better choice?
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This review has been a big help for me .... I'm saving up for a lift and this has answered more than a few questions! Thank you!
Just one uick question.... Are you still running 33's?
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I have a 2013 2 Door Sport. I am planning on purchasing the RE 2.5 lift with monotubes this week as the lift sounds like it performs phenomenally. My only question is should I go with the lift for the 2 door or the lift for the 4 door, as I plan to add rock sliders and bumpers by the years end. I'm sure the 4 door lift is stiffer and will provide more lift, but is it a better choice?
As he said, the lift is higher than 2.5 without armour or bumpers, so with your sliders and bumpers you may end up at 2.5. But if you sag too much, as he said, you can trade in for 3.5 coils for free. Or just buy coil spacers.

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