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Old 08-20-2011, 08:04 AM   #1
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Rubicon Express vs Daystar Lift?

Looking at either the Rubicon Express 2" lift with shocks or the Daystar 1-3/4 lift with shocks. Both are spacer lifts and about the same price. Is one better than the other? Any experience with either?

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Personally me, I am going with the Daystar next year. I know it is made in the USA, and 1 3/4 is perfect for me, but that Rubicon Express looks good too. Don't think you could go wrong either way IMHO.

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Did Rubicon Express go out of business? Was there a problem with there lifts? I'm liking the Rubi one too because it's a perfect 2" kit with shocks "silver" to go with my silver JK.
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Not sure? I think the Rubicon Express would look good on yours, that extra .25 " and the silver would set yours off better I think anyway. Come to think of it, i think I am liking the look of the Rubi Express one better myself.... since you posted the pics side by side.
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It looks like Rubi Express almost went out of business but 4WheelParts got a contract with them to sell there kits/merchandise and see if they can bring the company back. Did they have quality issues with their kits/parts?
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Transamerican Auto Parts bought Rubicon Express. TAP is the same parent company that owns 4 wheel parts and a few other companies.

The RE kit is actually a 2.5" lift in the front and 1.75 in the rear. So it levels the Jeep out.
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What's the deal with the Daystar lift then? Is it 1 and 3/4" all around or 1" up front and 3/4" in the rear? I've got the 3/4" lift on there now and it's 3/4" all around. Was wondering about the others made by them and if it was the same.
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The RE kit is actually a 2.5" lift in the front and 1.75 in the rear. So it levels the Jeep out.
Really?

This is so strange to me. Someone said that about the AEV 2" BB the other day and I didn't really believe it. Surely they'd mention this in the promo materials? Mention that it "lifts and levels" or some such thing. A "lift" and a "leveling kit" seem like different things. What if you liked the rake and had intended to keep it?

(FWIW, I think 2.5" up front and 1.75" in the rear would be perfect. I'm just saying it's odd they wouldn't mention it and instead claim it's a "2 inch lift" which in fact is wrong as to each puck included with the kit.)
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I have the 1 3/4 inch Daystar lift without the shocks. My dealer purchased and installed it for me at the time of purchase. It's my second Daystar lift on a Jeep and I've never had a problem. I actually gained 2 inches of lift all around.
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I have the 1 3/4 inch Daystar lift without the shocks. My dealer purchased and installed it for me at the time of purchase. It's my second Daystar lift on a Jeep and I've never had a problem. I actually gained 2 inches of lift all around.
Same here just installedit last week
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Can you take a picture of your rear drive shaft for me? Want to see the angle of it with this kit. Thanks-
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No prob ill have it up tommorow
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I've got the 3/4 lift by them on my 2 door with 33s and after rubbing now twice (once this evening wheeling) it's very clear to me I need to get a bigger lift. The 33x12.5R15 tires I'm using stick out pretty far past my flares for a wide stance but it rubs the flares pretty easy going over ruts.
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You already know what I'm gonna recommend But since those are spacer lifts you will get 2" with RE and 1.75" with Daystar because that's the size of the spacers. It's gonna be the same all around. I guess it depends on what you need, and since you said you rub a lot on full flex, a 2" would help you out and would look great with your 33" duratracs.
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I checked on the Rubi Express 2" lift and it's back ordered for about 3-4 weeks. I think I'm gonna go ahead and order it unless I find something better or someone comes fourth with bad info on it. It looks like a really good fit and I like the height and shocks included in it. I wish I could here from more peeps with that kit though. Seems like I'm getting very little feed back on it from this thread. I put one up on JKowners.com too.

Found some pics of the Rubi kit on a silver 2 door score!!
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RC 2.5" BB, The front is 2.5 and the back is 2. So if someone wants to keep the rake, buyer be ware..
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Really?

This is so strange to me. Someone said that about the AEV 2" BB the other day and I didn't really believe it. Surely they'd mention this in the promo materials? Mention that it "lifts and levels" or some such thing. A "lift" and a "leveling kit" seem like different things. What if you liked the rake and had intended to keep it?

(FWIW, I think 2.5" up front and 1.75" in the rear would be perfect. I'm just saying it's odd they wouldn't mention it and instead claim it's a "2 inch lift" which in fact is wrong as to each puck included with the kit.)
I can shoot you a copy of the RE instructions if you want. PM me your e mail and I'll send them off to ya.
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I can shoot you a copy of the RE instructions if you want. PM me your e mail and I'll send them off to ya.
I don't doubt you, and am not suggesting you're confused or lying or some such thing. I just think it's an odd thing for the company to do. Why not mention it in the advertising materials? As amenendez_90 observed in the prior post, this is apparently also true for the Rough Country BB.

So that's AEV, RE, and RC that all "lift and level," and yet none of them actually mention it until you get the kit in the mail. By contast, TeraFlex's 2.5" BB (insofar as I know) is an even lift all around. So while one would think you'd get similar results from any of the kits, that's actually not true.

In fact, they're actually misrepresenting things a little bit. RE for example says you get a 2" lift when in reality you're getting a 2.5" lift and a 1.75" lift--neither of which is 2". And the kicker is that AEV, RE, and RC are actually doing this "misrepresentation" for no good reason, since most folks may very well want to level out. Or better yet, they could offer the same kits in both a "lift and level" format and a "straight lift" format.

That's just weird to me.
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I don't doubt you, and am not suggesting you're confused or lying or some such thing. I just think it's an odd thing for the company to do. Why not mention it in the advertising materials? As amenendez_90 observed in the prior post, this is apparently also true for the Rough Country BB.

So that's AEV, RE, and RC that all "lift and level," and yet none of them actually mention it until you get the kit in the mail. By contast, TeraFlex's 2.5" BB (insofar as I know) is an even lift all around. So while one would think you'd get similar results from any of the kits, that's actually not true.

In fact, they're actually misrepresenting things a little bit. RE for example says you get a 2" lift when in reality you're getting a 2.5" lift and a 1.75" lift--neither of which is 2". And the kicker is that AEV, RE, and RC are actually doing this "misrepresentation" for no good reason, since most folks may very well want to level out. Or better yet, they could offer the same kits in both a "lift and level" format and a "straight lift" format.

That's just weird to me.
Not really sure why it's never been presented that way. Maybe because even with the 3/4" difference it still (at least on the 4 door) doesn't level out the Jeep?
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Can you take a picture of your rear drive shaft for me? Want to see the angle of it with this kit. Thanks-
Here you go im on level ground tape measure is touch the ground two points of angles

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So that's AEV, RE, and RC that all "lift and level," and yet none of them actually mention it until you get the kit in the mail. By contast, TeraFlex's 2.5" BB (insofar as I know) is an even lift all around.
Crazy thing is I was speaking with the guys at Teraflex a few days ago about the 2.5 lift Clutch put on regarding the rear drive shaft and he said that kit puts 3" up front and 2" in the rear! I know the 2.5" height comes from the average of the front and rear but all of the companies should note this specifically in their promos for the lifts. It would cut down on any confusion and help buyers know exactly what there going to get with their kits.

Thanks for the pics Rubi. No issues with it then?
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Crazy thing is I was speaking with the guys at Teraflex a few days ago about the 2.5 lift Clutch put on regarding the rear drive shaft and he said that kit puts 3" up front and 2" in the rear! I know the 2.5" height comes from the average of the front and rear but all of the companies should note this specifically in their promos for the lifts. It would cut down on any confusion and help buyers know exactly what there going to get with their kits.

Thanks for the pics Rubi. No issues with it then?
This is true for the TF bb. It's a quality kit and what I would pick from all the other bb's out there. I do think it would be wise to add a front adjustable track bar. I'm running the RE track bar.
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Runs great still has enough power to get up and go just filled tank and i got 15.5 on this one so no big change
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I don't think anyone can give a solid perfect number whereas shaft issues become apparent unfortunately. I've heard 2" on the rear from the TF guys/gals, 3+" from the 4WP guys, and 4" from others.

I'd like to get new shocks with this next lift so that's why I was looking at the 2.5 RE kit's and the 2.5 TF kits but I can't lock down a definite on which may or may not eventually cause problems 2 door. Probably the best thing to do is just keep talking with those who have either or more and see how long they had them and if they've had any problems. MMmmmm....the Rubi Express kit still has my vote for my next purchase.
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Here are a few pics of the front and rear spacers used in the Rubi Express 2" kit. This is for those who were wondering what the height of each were.

Front 2.5"


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