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Old 06-27-2013, 11:03 AM   #1
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Rubicon owners-- How often do you actually use your lockers?

Probably looking at ordering a '14 sometime in the fall. Have a few questions for you Rubi owners:

Do you actually use your lockers often? How about the swaybar disco?

Do you feel like the lockers are quality? Have they ever let you down/failed on the trail? Have there been times when the lockers really saved your bacon?

If you had it to do over, would you still opt for the Rubi or build your own Sport with aftermarket lockers/beefier axles etc.

Quick background, used to own an '07 2dr Sahara. Wheeled it fairly often, but not as hardcore as I wanted to. I had 33's and a budget boost, only had to be winched out by buddies twice. Planning to dive in a little deeper this go round.

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Answer this first...since you live in NV, you are near (Moab, Co, Cali, etc) some of the best wheeling on the planet. How hard are you planning on wheeling? If you are planning on running Holy Cross, you will probably want to build your own rig. If you do minor stuff, a rubi is more than sufficient. If you are planning on running "deeper" as you say, you might seriously want to consider saving the Rubicon money, and get Prorocks with ARB lockers instead.

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I off-road my jeep at least 2-4 times a month. I always disconnect and at some point in the trip I use my lockers. So I use my lockers 2-4 times a month.
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Answer this first...since you live in NV, you are near (Moab, Co, Cali, etc) some of the best wheeling on the planet. How hard are you planning on wheeling? If you are planning on running Holy Cross, you will probably want to build your own rig. If you do minor stuff, a rubi is more than sufficient. If you are planning on running "deeper" as you say, you might seriously want to consider saving the Rubicon money, and get Prorocks with ARB lockers instead.
Holy Cross is well beyond my depth at this point. I'm very much still a novice and want to get more comfortable with some harder intermediate trails and dip my toes in the water of the "experienced" trails. I'm an autoXer at heart, but getting the same kind of thrills at 3-7mph is great too.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:59 AM   #5
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I used to use them all the time, off road

now its a challenge to see what you can do before you get to the point where you need them.

thats fun. See what sort of mess you can get yourself into, always with the safety net that pushing a button, the technology in your truck will save you.

Its WAY better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them.

WAY BETTER.

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I'm not a rock Crawler, just desert trails and exploring. When I hit the trailhead I usually air down and disco. I've only needed my lockers a handful of times, but when I needed them I sure was glad I had 'em, lol.

No issues but I'm not a hardcore. 33's and a 2.5".
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:22 PM   #7
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I use my e-disco button every time I go out....I've never manually disco'd the front end, and have never had an issue.
I've used my lockers twice so far in the year I've had the Jeep, both times climbing hills with loose rock. It definitely made the task much easier, as I watched the TJ's I was with hop around a bit and spin tires before they made it through. Both times I could've done it without the lockers, but it was a "Watch how easy this is" type of scenario where we were joking about the others slipping a bit.
I'm at 2.5" with 35's.
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Thanks for starting this one NO4NJUNK. Looking to order late fall myself and was wondering the same thing. Looking forward to the responses
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Its WAY better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them.

WAY BETTER.
This ^

When I was looking into what Jeep to get, I was stuck between the Sport and the Rubicon for a while. I descided Rubicon and I'm glad I did. I havn't really gotten anywhere I couldn't get out of (yet). Myfirst time off roading, I just left the lockers on the hole time. Second time, I locked them when I noticed the wheels stating to spin on sand/rocks.

I got stuck on the very edge of a sand/dirt road in 2Hi once. The sand on the edge wasnt packed down. 4Lo got me out without the use of lockers.

As for the disco. I tried it out, Like it. So I think Ill disconnect it everytime I go wheeling.
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Its WAY better to have them and not need them than need them and not have them.


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This says it all!
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I use my e-disco button every time I go out... .....
I've used my lockers twice so far in the year I've had the Jeep, both times climbing hills with loose rock. ....
My situation exactly...

I'm a few months short of 2 years on my JKUR, and I can count the times I've "needed" and used one or both lockers on both hands.

No mudding here, just slippery wet slopes. And no real rock climbing - just lots of BIG stumps (redwood) and loose dirt or shale on slopes so steep I wouldn't have tried them in any previous Jeep! I've locked up just twice on slopes in snow and ice in that time - probably didn't need to, but I could.

Absolutely not a necessity for having tons of fun and going almost anywhere in your Wrangler, but, if you've got the loot and aren't going to heavily mod a serious crawler (where Sports are the obvious choice,) why not go all the way and enjoy a Rubicon?
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:56 PM   #12
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Actually I forgot about the edisco. That is one hell of a selling point IMHO.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:57 PM   #13
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My situation exactly...

I'm a few months short of 2 years on my JKUR, and I can count the times I've "needed" and used one or both lockers on both hands.

No mudding here, just slippery wet slopes. And no real rock climbing - just lots of BIG stumps (redwood) and loose dirt or shale on slopes so steep I wouldn't have tried them in any previous Jeep! I've locked up just twice on slopes in snow and ice in that time - probably didn't need to, but I could.

Absolutely not a necessity for having tons of fun and going almost anywhere in your Wrangler, but, if you've got the loot and aren't going to heavily mod a serious crawler (where Sports are the obvious choice,) why not go all the way and enjoy a Rubicon?
I think the Rubicon will probably end up being the direction I go. It might be a while before my wallet and my experience level will necessitate big Dana 60s.

Thanks for all the replies guys.
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This is my 5th jeep but my 1st Rubi I have yet to use them but a waited a long time to get them. So glad I have them.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:27 PM   #15
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Same as above... Use the e-disco all the time and lockers only when I slip and need it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:02 PM   #16
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The lockers work great off road when climbing in the snow!
I can only get back to my cabin at times in the winter snows, with the lockers.
What's a e-disc, just kidding, that is how much I use mine, never!
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I love the e-disco in the Rubi though it seems like I still have to wait for all the other Wranglers to manually disconnect before we go have fun. Since I do go on trails with non-Rubicons and Jeeps w/o lockers, I try to minimize my use and see if I can get by w/o using it. However, some times, it's just great to get yourself out with a push of a button.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:47 PM   #18
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I use mine every time I go wheelin. I'd rather crawl up sonthing treacherous with no slipping then spin my tires unlocked and have lugs on my tires get ripped off or cut a hole in one or somthing. Or worse. Slide side ways in a ba spot and smash into somthing or pin myself somewhere I do not want to be. Or slide off and high center myself on somthing vital. I will meet own a 4x4 that does not have lockers ever again now that I know what they're capable of. And the e-disco is fricken awesome.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:53 PM   #19
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I had a Sahara without lockers prior to getting my Rubi. Since getting the Rubi a couple months ago, I've used the lockers around 6 times and I know that I will have lockers in every Jeep from now on.
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I love the e-disco. Especially for trails that have short challenging sections, but then open up into a fast dirt road. I push a button to disconnect and I can reconnect without even stopping. If I forget to reconnect and hit 40 mph (I think that's right) it'll flash and reconnect for me.

The lockers saved my bacon last weekend when I dropped myself in a hole. The jeep really does feel unstoppable with both axles locked. I also use them in the snow, which is the main reason I wanted them in the first place. Sometimes I use them to get me out, sometimes I use them when I'm trying to pull someone else out. They might not be up to some people's "trail rig" standards, but it has allowed me to get out there a hell of a lot faster than if I started doing all the work to beef it up myself. After all, I work 40 hours a week and I have kids. There's only so much time in the day.
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I use the ediscos all the time. It's just more comfortably going down the trail. I've used the lockers on occasion. Loose rocks mainly. Could have probably finessed it up,...but was like screw it. LOCKed...crawl...done.

Totally worth it in my opinion. I think that someone did like a price out or what not on here one time..the Rubi package is like a $6k add on? If you spent the same $6K you could get the same or better parts and labor to put them on, etc, etc.... I think the difference (if you paid for it to be installed) was negligible.

Don't forget the 4:10's on the Rubi also.
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Something that has not been mentioned at all in this thread that is a pretty big selling point for the Rubi...

4:1 Transfer case
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The factory lockers are great, but when you add the extra low tcase, that's what makes the rubicon something special
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I use the rear more than the front, but am glad to have both when needed. Like above I often wait to use them only once I can't make something with out them. I disco every time and it sure is nice being able to do so with a push of a button. Finally, the 4:1 is a huge difference if you wheel in 4-lo. That 4:1 and 4.10 gears makes for some serious crawling. I'm more of a slow goer so I really like that. I can idle up hills that the guys in Sports are struggling with or having to gas it up a lot.

Plus, the Rubi allowed me to order the Dark Saddle Interior with Dark Saddle leather seats. :-)
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I use both the disconnect and lockers on just about every trip. Only thing I wish I had is a rubicrawler. Sometimes 4hi is too high, and 4lo is too low. If you have alot of disposable income, I would suggest not buying a Rubicon and build it as your wheeling needs grow. In my case, I got a good deal on my Rubi and the difference in monthly payments is negligible.
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disco every time
locker when needed, and you'll know

I tell you, I remember just having a rear lunchbox and front open and seeing the open/open folks have trouble on steep inclines with ruts on a pretty much otherwise buff trail, especially on a group ride with frequent stops. It'll always be the wrong person who has to stop in the worst spot and can't get going again. Anyway, that's how ya' learn.

But as was pointed out, the e-disco is nice, lockers are awesome, but the crawl is the bomb. You just walk over stuff.
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I have two Rubicons. I disconnect every time I go off road and lock in where needed. Lockers make getting over obstacles easier. I love them and will not own a Jeep without them, factory or aftermarket. I try to go wheeling every couple of weeks
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The e disco is garbage. U do gain some travel but it still limits the articulation. If u want max travel get real discos
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Ok u guys must not do a lot of crawling. That stupid e disco works to an extent but I've seen those in action and wen the wheels at full droop the sway bar link is still the limiting factor in suspension travel. If u want the most out of ur jeep stop being lazy and take 30 seconds and disconnect the right way
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I use my lockers every time I think I might need them. I figure the easier I can get over a obstacle and the less time I spend on it,the less of a chance I will have tearing something up.

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