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Old 01-20-2014, 09:05 PM   #1
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Rubicon X & Zeon 10-S

I used Maximus-3 parts for this along with PIAA fog lights and Truck-Lite headlamps.






The winch install plate worked great with a slight mod needed on the vacuum relocation bracket. Sorry, I didn't get pics of that but it required a cut to fit in this 2014 Rubicon X along with cutting the front side of the factory bracket. I was able to leave the back part of the factory vacuum pump bracket in place.



Sorry about the angle but this shows how tight the fit is for the 10-S. It took me almost 12 hours to get this in there correctly. Reinstalling the bumper nuts was the biggest problem.



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Old 01-20-2014, 09:09 PM   #2
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Looks great. I have a 2014 JUKRX. Got the Zeon 10-S, Maximus-3 mount, and LP hoop sitting in the garage waiting for me to install it. Sounds like I better side aside more time.

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Oh...looks like there's no room for the available winch cover? I held off ordering that, but I did get the rope cover plate but I'm wondering now if I even need that (or get to it)?
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I have the winch rope cover laying around someplace. I will try it tomorrow. You are welcome to PM me with questions and happy to help. The problem bumper nuts are the upper/inside two nuts. One I got back down just right and the second only 3/4 done so I am running on 7/8 bumper nuts. The problem with that one nut is you cannot get a socket on the nut with the 10-s tightened down. You might want to try leaving the winch a bit lose and then get those two bumper nuts in place first.
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Here are a few more notes.

I used ramps and a floor creeper, this helped a lot.
When removing the Rubicon plastic plug in the front use wire cutters and kill the steel nuts. They are not kidding in the instructions when they tell you not to try to save them. Nasty little buggers they are.

I was surprised at how light the steel bumper was then I removed it. Use the hooks to maneuver.

Remove the bolts that Maximus sent you on the vacuum bracket. Use the factory ones and turn them over. I mounted the vacuum pump on top of the relocation bracket with the factory bolts going down. I put the vacuum tube on the inside of the aluminum tube (near radiator). To get the vacuum pump to fit you will need to cut the right side of the bracket just a bit.

The notch in the nut plates will line up perfectly to put in the 12 mm screws just make sure it is aligned vertically. If you drop the nut plate fish it out the end of the bumper bracket where you see a slot hole not the round hole. Having a magnetic retriever handy is a good idea.

I found that you will need both a short 18mm socket and a long 18mm socket on the bumper nuts. At times I found that I used both a 1/4" set with different extensions then a 3/8" set with different extensions. The outside bumper bolts I used a 1/2" set with a big handle.

A drill with a 15mm socket will help on the skid plate, finish with a wrench.
The back hoop bolts (factory X bumper bolts) are hard to get back in with the hoop in place. I found that a T-handle Craftsman Torx 30 tool worked best. I did not use their bolts for the front hoop position as they were too short for me to get started. Bought longer bolts at home depot.
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Old 01-21-2014, 01:20 AM   #6
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Thanks!!! I'll PM you if I get stumped (or knuckles get too bloody).
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:16 AM   #7
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The anti-rust paint I bought was Rustoleum Bumper paint and it worked great. I used it also on all the bolt heads once done to seal them up nice. This includes all the nuts and bolts on the bottom of the Jeep (skid plate) and the ones on the inside of the bumper (fairlead opening, etc). I even put a touch of paint on the hoop back bolts where the torx wrench was not quite square.
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So we are going to order a Rubicon X. How can we get that hoop added to the front bumper when we order it?
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The hoop is an after market product from Maximus-3. www.maximus-3.com . I ordered the hoop, the winch bracket, fairlead centering plate, license plate holder, and fog light brackets all from Maximus-3. Are you mounting a winch or just adding the hoop? I would recommend the hoop and the fog light brackets.
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Thanks for the pictures and details. I have been looking for the same sort of set up.
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Thanks, I understand now. Looked at the website and that looks pretty cool. I would like to get the entire setup, but might have to wait as we are dropping quite a bit on the X. Did it take 12 hours to do the entire setup>
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Thanks, I understand now. Looked at the website and that looks pretty cool. I would like to get the entire setup, but might have to wait as we are dropping quite a bit on the X. Did it take 12 hours to do the entire setup>
Yes, but with my comments above and having all the proper stuff before you start you can cut it in half I think. For example, having an 18mm short and long socket in all sizes can greatly reduce the time I spent going to/from auto stores. Anything you can do to cut down time on the bumper nuts will greatly help.

One more note. You will need a u-joint for all sizes of sockets. 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 as well as multiple extensions for each.

Having all this stuff ready will save you a ton of time as well as knowing about the cut on the vacuum pump relocation bracket will save you time as it took me about an hour just to figure out how I wanted to handle that one. I went very slow.
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Oh...looks like there's no room for the available winch cover? I held off ordering that, but I did get the rope cover plate but I'm wondering now if I even need that (or get to it)?
No go on the rope cover. You might be able to get it down in there but it is very tight so I opted not to put it on. Let me know if you get yours on in this tight space.

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Hey, what hook keeper is that you have? I was thinking of maybe the Factor 55 Prolink but dang, they are proud of those things.
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thanks for the report/photos....

that's almost the same exact stuff I had intended before last year's taxes hit....
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Hey SteedGun, I'm not hijacking your thread. I was getting questions on the Zeon / Maximus mounting on the Rubi X bumper and this seems the best place for that info. I got mine on finally and thought I'd put it here with yours and just direct questions here. Thank you very much for your information, it was very helpful.

2014 JKURX with Warn Zeon 10-S, Maximus-3 mount with centering plate, LP hoop with reinforcement brackets, hockey puck, Rubicon Express aluminum fairlead (I wanted black and it says Rubicon across the top )

Great information is given by SteedGun who started this thread (read it all). The Maximus-3 instructions are pretty good. The supplemental instructions provided by Maximus-3 for the Zeon was key for me. It includes drilling 1" holes in the bottom of the bumper for accessing the front winch mount bolts. I did this and glad I did. It allows you to easily bolt up the bumper and remove the winch for servicing if needed.

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- Go ahead and remove the grill first thing. It will give you a little more room to work and you can't scratch it if it is off.
- The factory winch delete plate (first thing you take off in the instructions) is not reused. Save the bolts and remove the nut clips. You can put the bolts back in the top of the bumper by just holding the clips under the top bumper flange. This will give you a nice finished look instead of just holes.
- The vacuum pump relocation bracket that came with the mount worked fine for me, no alterations needed. Did have to cut off the front part of the OEM bracket and SteedGun mentions above.
- I set the the winch in place (no bolts) and ran the wires before putting the bumper back on. When ready, put the bumper in place and finger start a couple of the bumper bolts (don't forget the bumper bolt plates and washers per the instructions). To easily finish tighten the bumper bolts, simply slide the winch to the passenger side, lift up the driver side of the the winch and lift out and set on bumper wing. Now you can really get to those bumper bolts. Use a old sheet or something to protect the winch and bumper from scratches.
- Now, with the two holes added in the bottom of the bumper, you can easily put the winch back in place and install the winch mounting bolts. Don't put the winch nuts in pace until you have the winch back on the mount. You can easily put these in place from behind once the winch is situated (prevent you from searching for them when they fall out when you are setting the winch in place).
- Make sure you get the winch line threaded threaded through the fairlead/bumper and started on the winch before mounting the bumper...very important.
I picked up a hockey puck, drilled a hole in it and threaded it on the winch line up to the hook before installing the line. This acts as a "bumper" for the hook against fairlead (a very cheap $3.00 alternative to the Factor 55 Prolink). Don't want to scratch/gouge that aluminum farilead.
- Cover the mounted winch with old sheet when putting the grill back on so you don't scratch your grill. It's a tight fit.

Here are some halfass pics of the almost finished product. I hadn't filled the holes where the winch delete plate was with the original bolts and nut clips. These pictures are why I went back put them in.







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That looks great. Thanks for sharing.
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Do you think if the control pack is removed from the winch the plate would be able to be reused?
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Do you think if the control pack is removed from the winch the plate would be able to be reused?
Just went out and looked, I'm 99.9% certain the "delete plate" would not fit back on even without the control pack.
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Does anyone have the template or instructions for drilling the two holes in the bumper for mounting the Zeon 10s?
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Does anyone have the template or instructions for drilling the two holes in the bumper for mounting the Zeon 10s?
I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for or not.....
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I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for or not.....
Thanks for the assist. I should have been more specific, I see that some guys are drilling two holes in the bottom of the bumper ease the install a bit. I have my parts on the way and went ahead and removed the bumper to get as much of the prep work done as I can. I thought that I might go ahead and get all of the cutting and painting done before the kit arrives.
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Thanks for the assist. I should have been more specific, I see that some guys are drilling two holes in the bottom of the bumper ease the install a bit. I have my parts on the way and went ahead and removed the bumper to get as much of the prep work done as I can. I thought that I might go ahead and get all of the cutting and painting done before the kit arrives.
Here are some pics of the instructions for the two additional holes for accessing the Zeon mounting bolts. I did what they said as far as installing the mounting plate the putting the bumper in place and marking the holes. Maximus doesn't provide measurements for this. It worked perfect for me.





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Actually they do give some measurements now that I just read them again. Oh well, I just marked and drilled.
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Are the hoops on these two jeeps different? The second one looks like a shorter version.
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Are the hoops on these two jeeps different? The second one looks like a shorter version.
Yes, I went with the LP (Low Profile) hoop from Maximus-3, which is the shorter one.
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Actually they do give some measurements now that I just read them again. Oh well, I just marked and drilled.
Got it. Thank you very much.
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Here's a "real world" shot with the winch installed. I finally re-spooled the line on with a load. She's all ready to go now!

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I like both hoops and it looks like there is a third one that I haven't seen a picture of on a vehicle yet. What difference does it make in weight if you use a synthetic winch rope?
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I like both hoops and it looks like there is a third one that I haven't seen a picture of on a vehicle yet. What difference does it make in weight if you use a synthetic winch rope?
According to the Warn site, the Zeon 10-S (synthetic line) is 75 lbs kit weight The Zeon 10 (steel line) is 98 lbs kit weight. So somewhere around 23 lbs lighter with synthetic line. I figure this also includes a little weight difference in the aluminum hawse fairlead that comes with the synthetic line kit vs the roller fairlead in the steel line kit.

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