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Old 07-06-2011, 12:27 PM   #1
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Rugged Ridge Power Soft Top - Thoughts?

Hey gang:

New to the Jeep thang - but ordered my '12 JKU Sahara last week.

Ran across this - any thoughts?

I know it's just prototype, but looks like it will be a production thing in Q4. I live in Chicago so the idea of being able to quickly put the soft top up/down (especially with 3 kids and a very opinionated wife) is a VERY appealing.

What's your take on Rugged Ridge stuff? Any educated guesstimates as to what this might run?

Looks very cool - and very obvious. One of those 'surprised no one (including Chrysler) hasn't done this before' kinda things.

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Old 07-06-2011, 12:38 PM   #2
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That's horrible...part of the fun of the soft top is putting it on and off, and a push button makes it no better than a chrysler sebring.

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That's horrible...part of the fun of the soft top is putting it on and off, and a push button makes it no better than a chrysler sebring.
Help me understand why it's horrible?

Scenario - my wife is in it with the kids. Top is down. Not 100% comfortable with raising/lowering the soft top and the 15 min it takes.

Big ass storm blows in out of nowhere which is very common in Chicago. She can press a button, from inside the vehicle, and top is on in a matter of what? 20 seconds?

I fail to see how it is horrible. I've owned a number of cars with quirky things. To me, being able to raise and lower a top (especially one as large as the JKU's) with power assistance is a major convenience thing.

Are power/manual hoists for a hard top horrible? Wouldn't having to find a neighbor to yank it off be more fun? Or perhaps we should put drum brakes on cars?

Again, I'm failing to see how this is 'horrible'.
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IMO, it has potential. I can forsee many complaints about it leaking though. Looks like it turns the JKU storage area to the size of a 2 doors though...
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I don't necessarily think that this is "horrible" per se, the problem seems to be with the fact that it is changing what makes our Jeeps, well, Jeeps.

We own one of the most unique and iconic vehicles in the world. My 2011 came with power windows, power locks and heated mirrors (really?) which are all nicey, nice "improvements", but it's a JEEP. These things aren't needed, they are just fluff for the soccer moms and mall rats.

I don't discount that a power roof would come in handy on certain occasions, but it just seems so "anti-Jeep". We aren't supposed to be about the "conveniences" of vehicle do-dads and what-nots (sorry for the technical lingo), but about raw, old-fashioned, get off the road and go anywhere you want.
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Definitely a first. Thanks for posting.

I'm in "wait and see mode" on this. A few thoughts . . .

Even though Rugged Ridge tops aren't known to be great (leak-free/durable), I'd expect this to be very expensive. And it would be very frustrating to pay high-end top prices (Bestop+) only to get a mediocre top, even if it comes with a motor.

Beyond that, can you raise/lower the top even if the motor burns out? How much trunk space is lost? Aren't we going to miss the rear side windows? Can you replace the fabric without replacing the motor? Can you replace the motor without replacing the fabric? What (if any) safety precautions are built-in in the event my toddlers push the button?

No doubt a good idea, but I'm dubious it's going to be executed well right out of the gate . . . or perhaps ever. If they pull it off though, it'll be huge.
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I don't necessarily think that this is "horrible" per se, the problem seems to be with the fact that it is changing what makes our Jeeps, well, Jeeps.

We own one of the most unique and iconic vehicles in the world. My 2011 came with power windows, power locks and heated mirrors (really?) which are all nicey, nice "improvements", but it's a JEEP. These things aren't needed, they are just fluff for the soccer moms and mall rats.

I don't discount that a power roof would come in handy on certain occasions, but it just seems so "anti-Jeep". We aren't supposed to be about the "conveniences" of vehicle do-dads and what-nots (sorry for the technical lingo), but about raw, old-fashioned, get off the road and go anywhere you want.
Yeah, next thing you know they will start putting cruise control on the Jeeps. Who needs it anyways with the weak minivan motor that can't even get the vehicle up to highway speeds?
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Yeah, next thing you know they will start putting cruise control on the Jeeps. Who needs it anyways with the weak minivan motor that can't even get the vehicle up to highway speeds?
A lot of Jeeps do have cruise control.
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A lot of Jeeps do have cruise control.
Mine does and I'm not ashamed to admit that I use it. That's right, I use it and I like it.
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Yeah, next thing you know they will start putting cruise control on the Jeeps. Who needs it anyways with the weak minivan motor that can't even get the vehicle up to highway speeds?
Ummmm they have TJs with cruise control. lol
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What strikes me as odd is my knee jerk reaction was "this is horrible" for the same resons mentioned above. It takes away from what a Jeep is all about. Then it dawned on me I bought a sahara versus a x that was on the lot (both used) nearly because of power windows and keyless entry. So I am a hypocrite! My thoughts on it, it's not really for me, as I like to get out and get the top off manually. Part of the joy of the jeep for me. But if it's something that gives you more joy and peace of mind then go for it. Just don't be the fist one to get it. Let it prove itself quality wise. And start saving up now for it, cause I have a feeling that beast isn't gonna be cheap!!
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With what I have seen from their recent half doors I wouldn't go near this personally.
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With what I have seen from their recent half doors I wouldn't go near this personally.

Uh oh - This is most ominous. What's the story on the half doors?

To date I have liked the RR products I've purchased and have had no issues. They are a local company and I like to support them as much as I can.
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Again, I'm new to the Jeep world and I'll probably fall in the 'mall rat posuer' category, but maybe, maybe, I'll offroad one or two times a year. That's just life. I'm a busy guy - I'm in sales and I travel every week. I have 3 small kids in lots of activities. We also have a lake house/boat that takes up lots of our summer weekends (I live in Chicago). In addition, I'm a track rat. I do about 8 track/autocross events each summer in my Lotus or Porsche 550 replica. I also probably do about a half dozen 'spirited drives' each summer with various car clubs.

The net? I simply don't have much time to add offroading to the list of fun sh*t I get to do while the spousal unit yells at me.

Again, call me a poseur or mall rat, but what I like about the Jeep is that it's a fun vehicle to drive. Period. Whether it is on a hill or mud or on the street. Summers aren't that long in Chicago. We have crap winters. I like the idea of a vehicle where I can take the top down and possibly remove doors AND have my family in the car with me. I have my tiny little sports car convertibles, but they can't accomodate my family. A JKU with soft top can.

In addition, let's say I put 10-12K miles a year on the car. The VAST and I mean VAST majority of them will be on the street. So, if I'm on the street in inclement weather - snow, cold, rain, etc - why is it a bad thing to have creature/safety comforts like bluetooth/nav/etc?

I have a Lotus Elise as my weekend fun/track car. Same sort of argument from that crew. Many of the guys reduce the car to it's lowest common denominator - crank windows, no A/C, no stereo, etc. I almost got killed for actually putting a proper stereo with nav, speakers an amp and a sub in the car. My logic? I'll drive it on the street about 100x for every track event I do. Silly me, I like to actually have music on when I'm in my car for an hour or two.

But yes, I'll definitely wait for all of the info to come in on this and as others have noted, the big issues will be:

- storage space it eats up
- cost
- side windows

I like the idea. Let's see what it pans out to. Seems that RR has a good rep.
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Again, call me a poseur or mall rat, but what I like about the Jeep is that it's a fun vehicle to drive. Period. Whether it is on a hill or mud or on the street. Summers aren't that long in Chicago. We have crap winters. I like the idea of a vehicle where I can take the top down and possibly remove doors AND have my family in the car with me. I have my tiny little sports car convertibles, but they can't accomodate my family. A JKU with soft top can.

THAT to me is the beauty of a Jeep. It is different things to different people. It may be the last vehicle that can be taylored or "individualized" to the drivers style and uses.

I wouldn't say you're a poser OR a mall rat - you're a Jeeper. So do that voodoo that you do as long as you enjoy it.
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THAT to me is the beauty of a Jeep. It is different things to different people. It may be the last vehicle that can be taylored or "individualized" to the drivers style and uses.

I wouldn't say you're a poser OR a mall rat - you're a Jeeper. So do that voodoo that you do as long as you enjoy it.
Agreeance.

That's what drove me to Jeeps.

We've always had:

- big SUV to lug the crap around (wife's car)
- me with smaller SUV. I do lots of cabinetry, play drums in bands, tow cars, etc so always need to lug crap around.
- sports cars (I have 3 now and would have 500 if the wife let me! )

I've decided I don't need a big SUV - so thought, a sporty sedan (say Audi S5 or RS4). What I was after was very simple:

What can give me a similar driving thrill - top down and just goddamn FUN - similar to when I'm in my sports cars but for the daily/family vehicle.

The ONLY car that can do this is a JKU. Or perhaps and older Defender 90. Something that:

- a convertible that seats 5 and 'stuff'
- is basically an SUV in winter
- has the same creature comforts as any highly equipped car
- makes me smile
- perhaps to do the offroad thing

Bottom line is that there is no other vehicle out there that gives me this flexibility.

So, that's why I bought it. And to be honest, it's a lot less expensive than the type of cars I typically buy (luxury brands). Don't want to sound uppity, but that's just the reality. So, buy spending $34K on a JKU (versus say $50K for the Audi), I free up that $ for other stuff. A rational person would say 'college 529 fund', but a car nut like me says 'that will buy my 1950 Morgan F series!'
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Agreeance.

That's what drove me to Jeeps.

We've always had:

- big SUV to lug the crap around (wife's car)
- me with smaller SUV. I do lots of cabinetry, play drums in bands, tow cars, etc so always need to lug crap around.
- sports cars (I have 3 now and would have 500 if the wife let me! )

I've decided I don't need a big SUV - so thought, a sporty sedan (say Audi S5 or RS4). What I was after was very simple:

What can give me a similar driving thrill - top down and just goddamn FUN - similar to when I'm in my sports cars but for the daily/family vehicle.

The ONLY car that can do this is a JKU. Or perhaps and older Defender 90. Something that:

- a convertible that seats 5 and 'stuff'
- is basically an SUV in winter
- has the same creature comforts as any highly equipped car
- makes me smile
- perhaps to do the offroad thing

Bottom line is that there is no other vehicle out there that gives me this flexibility.

So, that's why I bought it. And to be honest, it's a lot less expensive than the type of cars I typically buy (luxury brands). Don't want to sound uppity, but that's just the reality. So, buy spending $34K on a JKU (versus say $50K for the Audi), I free up that $ for other stuff. A rational person would say 'college 529 fund', but a car nut like me says 'that will buy my 1950 Morgan F series!'
Shhh...don't tell anyone but I do have my eye on a Tesla Model S. Man that's a pretty vehicle.
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Shhh...don't tell anyone but I do have my eye on a Tesla Model S. Man that's a pretty vehicle.
It's a VERY VERY sharp car. I just don't think the range would suffice for me.

I know of 2 people who have put $5K down on them - we'll see when they'll be delivered.

I know of a couple of Tesla guys who run with our Lotus club with their roadsters. It's an impractical vehicle like me Elise (same platform, many of the same parts) and vastly overpriced, but what a driving experience. 0-6 in 3.5ish - 100% torque out of the gate, yet NO engine sound. It's bizarre.
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Uh oh - This is most ominous. What's the story on the half doors?

To date I have liked the RR products I've purchased and have had no issues. They are a local company and I like to support them as much as I can.
Fitment issues, locks being installed wrong and you cant pull the door apart to fix it since they glues the two halves together so in the long run the locks aren't serviceable or replaceable if they break. Good for them, bad for you.
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Fitment issues, locks being installed wrong and you cant pull the door apart to fix it since they glues the two halves together so in the long run the locks aren't serviceable or replaceable if they break. Good for them, bad for you.
Well, that sux. I was interested in those doors, but now, maybe not so much. Thanks for the info.
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Not quite sure how I feel about it Seams like it would be nice for the rich and famous crowd. Maybe even a Miami thing.
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Oops, I forgot the sarcastic smiley again... My Jeep doesn't have cruise because it wasn't on my list of what I was looking for when buying. Hard top, auto, low miles, good condition, and great deal. I wasn't going to pass up on the deal over cruise control which I rarely used in any of my vehicles. They finally took down the speed trap cameras on the freeways early this year so for me it's not necessary. Surprisingly my Jeep holds speed well without it. I'm pretty sure my friends YJ has cruise also. Just one of those things I don't "need" like a power retractable hard top or power windows with an interior that I can roll down passenger window without lifting a cheek off the seat.
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This conversation is boring me. Jeeps are one of the best vehicles on the road. Why not load them up with all the fancy options other cars come with? Just because they are designed to be off road vehicles doesn't mean they have to be dinosaurs. It's about time they start thinking about a power top option. It's a pain to put it on and take it off. My old car had a power top and I miss being able to drop it at a stop light.
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Soooooo a conversation thats last post was 2 and a half years ago is boring you? Where you been? The Joint?
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This conversation is boring me. Jeeps are one of the best vehicles on the road. Why not load them up with all the fancy options other cars come with? Just because they are designed to be off road vehicles doesn't mean they have to be dinosaurs. It's about time they start thinking about a power top option. It's a pain to put it on and take it off. My old car had a power top and I miss being able to drop it at a stop light.
As Jail Guard says you dug a bit deep into the archive to revive this one.

There is already a contingent that believes that Jeeps are too plush. Personally, I have no issue with the soft top but I would be interested in a self removing and folding hard top that would tuck itself away neatly in the corner of my garage.

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