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Old 07-21-2013, 02:47 PM   #1
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Rust on 2013 JK

I've got a question for any of you running a JK exposed to the elements.

I'm trying to get the Jeep "ruggedized" so I run a fulltime bikini and not have to worry about rain. For the last month I've been running with no windows, carpets, or drain plugs and letting the rain come in the back. I haven't Monstalined yet, but it's on my todo list.

I noticed today that I'm starting to get some rust in the cargo tie down hooks as well as the gate latch hardware and it got me worrying about where else could be rusting (e.g. seat belt mechanism, trim attachment bolts, etc)

Are any of you running topless fulltime? If so what are you doing about rust prevention? Do you think letting the Jeep get wet on the inside frequently is a bad idea? Looking for any thoughts. Thanks.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:10 PM   #2
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This is just Jeep quality, more often than not. Have you checked under the Jeep? My shock mounts and several other areas are badly rusted...and were when it was new. Unfortunately, you are going to have to sand and spray-paint or just spray (if a rust converter) as much as you can access.

I run my hardtop so I have no issue inside, and I live in a dry area. Whatever you do, start it soon. Rust can be a losing battle if left too long. If you simply cover it up, it will rust even worse and out of sight.

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Old 07-21-2013, 03:41 PM   #3
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It's not a boat. It's a rugged vehicle with some minimal interior safeguards against the occasional topless drizzle, but I don't think Chrysler intended the interior to be weatherproof; nor did Chrysler really give the impression that the JK is designed to hold up to constant toplessness. I wouldn't be surprised at all if lots of the interior parts are susceptible to rust if regularly exposed to the elements.

It's your Jeep and it's totally up to you, but it seems like a poor decision to intentionally allow water to just pour into your interior every single time it rains and expect things to hold up. Heck- people even put covers on their boats when they're not using them...
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:49 PM   #4
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It's not a boat. It's a rugged vehicle with some minimal interior safeguards against the occasional topless drizzle, but I don't think Chrysler intended the interior to be weatherproof; nor did Chrysler really give the impression that the JK is designed to hold up to constant toplessness. I wouldn't be surprised at all if lots of the interior parts are susceptible to rust if regularly exposed to the elements.

It's your Jeep and it's totally up to you, but it seems like a poor decision to intentionally allow water to just pour into your interior every single time it rains and expect things to hold up. Heck- people even put covers on their boats when they're not using them...
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Guy down the street from me did the same thing with his 2009. Pretty much a POS on the inside now. But as per THW, it is your Jeep.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:15 PM   #5
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Thanks for the info. Obviously I care about the long term condition of my Jeep or I wouldn't be bothering to ask the question.

I've been keeping the front of the cabin (and more specifically the dash) dry. I've waterproofed the rollbars and seats and I've got wet okoles on the way. In the near future I was planning on monstalining the interior as well. I have actually been keeping the soft top up and just leaving the windows out.

The main reason I was looking to go this route is that I prefer running with the top down and found myself running out to throw the top up on a daily basis. The constant up/down had been taking its toll on the softtop (seams, weatherstripping, and zippers are all starting to have issues). I've seen a number of jeeps at my work that leave the windows out, as well as, an old friend that left his CJ uncovered fulltime (seemingly without issue) so I thought I'd give it a shot.

Admittedly, I had not considered the rear seat belt mechanism, but I had figured the remainder of the hardware to be waterproof. Mistake on my part. All things considered though, I'd rather replace the softtop than the tub so I guess I'll abandon my experiment.

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Unfortunately, you are going to have to sand and spray-paint or just spray (if a rust converter) as much as you can access.
I've never used a rust converter before. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:20 PM   #6
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This is a tough one. Read this- POR15 is good stuff but all rust "converters" have supporters and detractors. Worth a try though- cannot hurt. I have used it with good luck. Phosphoric acid is a good ingredient. Then keep an eye on it.

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Thanks HK I'll look into it. The rust is pretty new and shallow so this may be the way to go. It seems pretty localized, but I'm going to pull the trim to make sure I don't have any hiding out of sight.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:39 PM   #8
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Only other option is to seriously sand down to bare metal, use a primer, and then a paint. It is laborious though. May be easier to just replace a few of those parts if they rust out after you use a converter. Sorry I could not provide better solutions but besides sanding to bare metal, nobody has beaten rust 100% of the time.
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I just used some flat black rustoleum over the weekend and painted over most of the rust under the Jeep. It's incredible how a new vehicle can rust so quickly.

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