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Old 11-25-2013, 07:38 PM   #1
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Sahara or Rubicon?

I'm about ready to order myself a Jeep. I need some help choosing between these two models. I plan on not going over $33,000 on my purchase. I have my $500 off coupon by Jeep and haven't joined thread lightly as of yet. But my off roading will be mainly on the beach to surf fish. I occasionally go to the mountains, but won't be taking it on any trails that require a lift. If I get any options on the Rubicon will be only 3 piece hardtop. If I go with the Sahara, same hard top, heated seats, 5 speed auto trans and trailer tow group. Reason for auto transmission is that my everyday driver is a 6 speed manual and an auto would be a nice break from shifting, but I could do without that if I had to. So some advice would be appreciated, oh BTW, it will be a 2 door and color will be Copperhead. Thanks

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Sounds like a Sahara would be good. I would try to get the Max Tow package to get the 3.73 gears, gives you a little more power. And from what I have read not a big difference in mpg. The Rubicon adds the Lockers, sway bar disconnect, Dana44 front axle and and lower ratio transfer case, but if you are not going rock crawling, you may not need those.

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My wallet decided for me and I ended up with a 2 door Sport 6 spd. My sister picked up a 1 yr old Sahara JKU auto. Both great, but the mod bug would not have hit me so quick if I had a Rubicon. The Sahara looks really classy for a Jeep, particularly with the saddle interior, fits her style. For me I like Jeeps for the rugged look, so if I wasn't planning on modifying my Sport then the Rubicon would be my choice.

In short, do you want a fancier Jeep or one that is a more modified factory option? Both sound like they'll fit your purposes anyway.
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Sounds like a Sahara would be good. I would try to get the Max Tow package to get the 3.73 gears, gives you a little more power. And from what I have read not a big difference in mpg. The Rubicon adds the Lockers, sway bar disconnect, Dana44 front axle and and lower ratio transfer case, but if you are not going rock crawling, you may not need those.
This. If you choose any option on the Sahara do yourself a favor and get the 3.73.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:55 PM   #5
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I personally think the rubicon is over priced, unless you will use the jeeps full off-road capabilities just get the Sahara.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:56 PM   #6
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3.73, check! What are the tire size options from the dealer? Is it possible to get 33's from factory, without lift? If lift is required, 2.5" I presume would work? I don't see it on the order form online anywhere? And if so, does anyone know the cost? I'm sure that would put me over my budget. Thanks again ya'll.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:01 PM   #7
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I went rubicon....have always wanted dual lockers....so for me, actually a good deal (they are factory and covered by warranty....)...and the axle was icing on the cake.

But, it forced me to go over 33k...sorry.



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Old 11-25-2013, 08:10 PM   #8
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If you plan on not exceeding 33K that will make the decision for you. In general, a Sahara might be less expensive.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:20 PM   #9
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Why no love for a Sport with the "S" package? That gets you a nicer trim package (more Sahara like) with factory 32s" (on a 17" wheel, Rubi also uses a 17" wheel, the Sahara rides on 18s"). Simple enough to put a level kit on it (2" puck in the front, 1" puck in the rear) and run up to a 34" tire.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:32 PM   #10
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I love my Sahara! I would not pay the extra for the Rubi.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:35 PM   #11
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Think twice about 3.73. With my 3.21's I really dig cruising at 70mph with tachometer well under 2k rpm, and 80mph right around 2100 rpm. I'd personally only get 3.73 if I knew I was going to be towing a lot or off road'ing.

There is a poll on this site about people's satisfaction with 3.21 and you will find the majority love it. It's about what you plan to do with it though. 3.21 Rear Axle Ratio

If you plan to re-gear to lower gears you can save money getting the 3.21's and then getting the gears you really want.

As a road warrior the answer for me was clearly the Sahara with LSD.

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Old 11-25-2013, 10:57 PM   #13
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Sounds like the only choice is a Sahara, based on what you want to spend. Rubi would be a waste of $$$$ for what ur needs r. I bought the JKRU X... Over kill for me, but still love it.
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Think twice about 3.73. With my 3.21's I really dig cruising at 70mph with tachometer well under 2k rpm, and 80mph right around 2100 rpm. I'd personally only get 3.73 if I knew I was going to be towing a lot or off road'ing.
Exactly. We have the 3.21 on our 2013 5-speed auto Sahara and it has plently of power. That, and the stock 18" premium wheels look nice. No desire to change anything.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:56 PM   #15
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The Rubi's additions are perfect if you're planning to rock crawl. Simply 'off-roading' like normal people do isn't even going to make use of the Rubi. If that's your case then get a Sahara instead, and spend that extra money on a painted hard top. Done done and done.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:25 AM   #16
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Go 3.21 if you are happy with the tire sizes already on the Jeep and will not tow or go up steep hills like we have in Co. Go 3.73 if you think you may go a tad bigger or will tow. Go modern and buy an automatic...very little if anything gained with stick.

Buy sport to save money, Sahara for appointments inside and Rubi otherwise. I love, love, love my Rubicon but I spent 7K above your price to get all the Sahara appointments included.

Regardless, you will love your Jeep...they all kick a$$
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:39 AM   #17
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The off road goodies, especially the lockers, on the Rubi are well worth the premium - just look into what they cost in the aftermarket.
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Well, you asked for opinions.

As you can see, there are pluses, and minuses for each model.

So, buy the one that appeals to you the most, and of course meets your budget.

I love my Sahara (w/3.73 gears)

The most I will probably ever do is a run through the Tillamook State Forest, and don't think I will need lockers.
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I love these threads. Rubicon owners will most likely say rubicon. Sahara or sport the same. Personal preference my friend.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:18 AM   #20
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I love these threads. Rubicon owners will most likely say rubicon. Sahara or sport the same. Personal preference my friend.
I guess Ill be different. I have had 2 Sports. A 2012 and a 2013. If you are going to be playing in the sand much, go for the Rubicon with the Auto and 3.73's. You will use those locking diffs.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:31 AM   #21
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Great info here for sure. Thanks for the help. Glad I found this website. As far as off roadin, 99.9% beach. Probably be going to Fort Fisher at least 2 weekends a month and several times a year at Nags head. but yeah, mainly thick sand, no rocks. As far as towing, I have nothing to tow, with be hooking up a hitch carrier to put my cooler and such, that's about it.
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An auto with the 3.21s will be more than adequate for your needs.

If you were going 6-speed, I'd say 3.73s all the way.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:48 AM   #23
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Cool Rubi < Sahara on the Road.

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The off road goodies, especially the lockers, on the Rubi are well worth the premium - just look into what they cost in the aftermarket.
On the ROAD: LSD + BLD on a Sahara (or Sport) > Rubi Lockers.

No debating that, it's fact.




Then add the road optimized 3.21 gears on the Sahara (or Sport) and it owns a Rubi again! Any place with a 65-75mph speed limit you will wish you had 3.21 95% of the time unless you are in a mountain range or towing where you will want a 3.73.
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Rubi isn't as good on the road.

LSD + BLD on a Sahara (or Sport) > Rubi Lockers on the ROAD.

No debating that, it's fact.

How isn't as good on the road?? Please explain
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How isn't as good on the road?? Please explain
Lockers only work in 4lo #1
Front locker can be dangerous on road if activated in 2wd/4wd at higher speeds.
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Rubi won't let you activate the lockers if you're going to fast anyway...

Personal preference - you start with a lower base price on the Sahara, get more goodies before you hit the $33k ceiling.

It's your decision - you pick the priority of the selection criteria. They're all good, really.
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funny I bought the Rubi for its road manners.

Go test drive the models back to back and see which one you like to drive better.

I did and the rubi handled so much better on the road that I cancelled my order on the sahara that I thought I wanted and bought a rubi off the lot.
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The Rubi's additions are perfect if you're planning to rock crawl. Simply 'off-roading' like normal people do isn't even going to make use of the Rubi. If that's your case then get a Sahara instead, and spend that extra money on a painted hard top. Done done and done.
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3.73, check! What are the tire size options from the dealer?
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Is it possible to get 33's from factory, without lift? If lift is required, 2.5" I presume would work? I don't see it on the order form online anywhere? And if so, does anyone know the cost? I'm sure that would put me over my budget. Thanks again ya'll.
Not available as a factory option. Mahy dealers have the capability to add them however.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:17 AM   #30
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I looked at The Sahara and the Sport S, finally ended up with a Sports S. VERY nice Jeep, but being my first one the Sahara had to much upscale stuff on it, leather seats, etc. I think the Sports S trim was just enough. Had all the toys, but none of the luxo cruiser stuff

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