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Old 04-10-2013, 11:46 AM   #31
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Put some lopper shears in your kit and if there is a limb sticking out that will scratch your rig, get out and cut it off.
^^^Now THAT is a great idea!^^^

Why didn't I think of that. My True Blue has lots of battle scars because I was too dumb to get the branches out of the way first. Then again if it was raining I'd just say "F*** IT!"

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If you are that worried about scratches then odds are you won't enjoy wheeling. I have been on the trail with people who spend all day trying not to get a scratch insted of spending all day having fun. It can take away from the fun that the whole group is having.

However there are people who have the same mindset and group up. They seam to have fun together.

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Old 04-10-2013, 11:56 AM   #33
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If you take it offroad on tight trails with trees it WILL get pin striping.
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Me too. I usually carry one or two of everything including the loppers and as my TJ got progressively more gouged, I got where I would only get the loppers out if there was a chance of becoming impaled - or to protect someone else.

Finally came the day when I had the sides bed-lined because it was scratched beyond what looked good and that ain't a joke. However, up to the point where I got my first few really good scratches, I was like the OP and was very protective. Along the way, when I first destroyed my rocker panels, I got rocker protection and then sliders.

I smashed a rear corner on a huge rock in the Palo Duro Canyone and got 3/8 inch steel corners out of that. Skid plates began to be bolted on and on and on... but the OP just wants to know that he or she can take their rig off road without it getting scarred and the answer is yes.

Also, I took my TJ every place I aimed it and because I used my head more than my gas pedal, I was able to drive it home at the end of the day - often hundreds of miles with it needing only a good cleaning.

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^^^Now THAT is a great idea!^^^

Why didn't I think of that. My True Blue has lots of battle scars because I was too dumb to get the branches out of the way first. Then again if it was raining I'd just say "F*** IT!"
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Mine is my daily driver and I do take mine off-road. Like you, I LOVE to keep my cars clean, but the Jeep has been a different story. I took mine off-road and I was antsy all the way till the first time I scratched my skid plate. Once the perfection was gone, things have been easier to swallow.



I've been armored up for awhile now, Ace rails and all, and believe me, it has came in REAL handy on some harder runs. Check out the video below where I manage to test it a number of times in just one hill climb.



Even so, sometimes sh*t just happens. I got my first body panel damage this past weekend. Despite the lift and the side armor. I was off camber and the tree just happened to hit the right spot above everything.



Gotta pay to play I guess.
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markwoodlief was telling me about some nifty magnets (kind of like the ones you see advertising a business name) that are shaped to match the body panels. Stick them on before your trail ride and the magnets take the pinstriping and when you return simply peel them off.

Super clever idea I thought.

Also, while others here hate them, I absolutely love my front mud flaps for my usage. Rock crawling isn't my thing, and as far as mud and gravel blasting the sides is a non issue now. My favorite mod so far (ok... its a short list)
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I had a new top put on my TJ and the next day a stick punched a hole through it. I was sick. I took it to the local trim shop and the guy fixed it where it was barely noticable.
So you are a creature a habit too (wheels)? Nice
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Well when I got my new 2013 Rubicon, I also was concerned about scratches and nicks. My friend has a 2004 Rubicon TJ that is all beat up scratches and dents. His has a 6 inch lift with 37 inch tires. He said I am going to help you out so that you don't have to worry about damaging your new one. He said let's go on a run and try it out. We went up into the mountains and I followed him on a 13 mile trail. This old rocky road was very narrow, bumpy and next came the trees and brush. I stopped and didn't want to go on any further, but there was no where to turn around so I went on. As the limbs from the trees were hitting hard and the screeching sound came from the sides of my wrangler, well all I could do was slide down in the seat and just kept following my friend. Well, after the run both sides were all scratched up some down to the primer and I also had a couple of dents and a cracked fender.
The bottom line is that was the best thing that could have happened to me, because now I can enjoy the off roading and not worry about my new toy. If you try this, then you too may have a lot more fun and enjoyment out of your new ride............
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I have never seen a jeep with scratches, dents, twisted bumpers whose owner didn't look like they loved the hell out of it.
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I have never seen a jeep with scratches, dents, twisted bumpers whose owner didn't look like they loved the hell out of it.
Sadly I have seen a few get pissy over a little scratch.
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Thanks for all the advice guys.. Looks like I'm gonna have to or pomp being a b*tch an just enjoy it! I guess I can take it slow an not go too crazy an go from there
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Search for pieface's thread. I think he put on some kind of clear protection on his whole jeep so that the black would keep looking good. I threw a coat of plastidip across the front of my hood and the grill because I live somewhere where rocks fly at you on road all year long. I always install a clear bra or something on my vehicles because of the "onroad" damage. It held up good all year and there are only a few places that rocks have made it all the way throw the plastidip to the paint, but then I just plastidip over them! Wheel with your hardtop and doors off. Better center of gravity this way and you won't have to worry about scratches on those pieces then.

My favorite sticker, found on a priests jeep... God forgives... rocks don't.
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Sadly I have seen a few get pissy over a little scratch.

I would get pissy over any vandalism or hit and run shit whatsoever. However.....If i do it....its fine!
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I would get pissy over any vandalism or hit and run shit whatsoever. However.....If i do it....its fine!
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Every jeep has some miner war wounds and scrathes if used properly! Embrace them! Each one is a new story and and adventure!
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My wife and I felt the same way about her new 2012 JK. We come from having a Honda CR-V all-wheel drive and never had any off road issues as long as we stuck to National Park dirt roads, BLM forest roads and trails in the 4 wheel drive books marked easy. We wanted to upgrade to a JK for more get home margin but didn't want to rock crawl or tear up our investment.

We just returned from running the 125 mile all dirt Mohave Road alone. We have outfitted the JK for expedition exploration and found we really can go almost anywhere we would want without lockers or even breaking the 35's loose. Since we are retired and usually alone, we stay on guide book trails and carry an inReach satellite locating beacon. We have not torn anything up yet but do have some side scratches in the plastic fenders (nothing in the paint) which could have been avoided.

Point being, it all depends on what you want to do and you can try to pick your level. You can get into some very remote and exciting areas without even pushing the stock Jeep performance envelope. Do some local research and dive into it slow. Here is a pic of what we just found over six days last week in Joshua Tree National Park and the Mohave Trail. Pretty exciting exploration for us, but pretty tame road relative to what some Forum members pursue.

My read is the excitement of going wheeling will soon offset the reluctance of being cautious. You will get sucked into the adventure. Whatever happens to your rig will be well worth it.
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Listen to Adam's first reply. Once you get out there you'll want to have fun and stuff happens. I dropped on a rock and did a good little ditty on my pinch seam and rocker panel. I was able to bend it back, paint it with some undercoating, and immediately ordered my poison spyder rocker knockers. Should have done that in the first place, would have taken the hit on the gear that was meant to take the hit.
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I had mine a month and some jackwago in a beat up tundra sideswiped my jeep right in the door and rear fender. Good scrape but no dent. Polished it out best I could. I was more mad since it was someone else to devirginize it and not me, and in a parking lot and not on the trail. Now its 9 months old covered in brush pin stripe, scraped undersides and such. Meh. If I babied it, it would defeat the reason I bought it. My only worry is the interior fading with the top off...
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^^^^ What JK Coaster said.
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I had mine a month and some jackwago in a beat up tundra sideswiped my jeep right in the door and rear fender. Good scrape but no dent. Polished it out best I could. I was more mad since it was someone else to devirginize it and not me, and in a parking lot and not on the trail. Now its 9 months old covered in brush pin stripe, scraped undersides and such. Meh. If I babied it, it would defeat the reason I bought it. My only worry is the interior fading with the top off...
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Dont worry about the interior fading. It can easily be re-dyed back to black or gray (which are the only colors that car interiors should EVER be)

"Some jackwago sideswiping me in a parking lot" is *EXACTLY* why i have rock sliders...

How about this? The receiver and ball I have in my jeep hitch right now. I have owned it for about a year and never used it until 2 weeks ago. I originally bought it to use on my F250 (which was a POS) and never did. But some jackwago in a nice new F-150 decided to park behind me even though the parking space was smaller than his truck (paralel parking), by MOVING my truck by pushing it. And bent the receiver. He left me without enough room to leave.

So you know what I did? I pulled up until i was not quite touching the innocent car in front of me. I put it in reverse, and I floored that 351 as hard as i could and rammed that ball into that f150s bumper, and left a nice dent.

Don't dish it if you cant take it.

I hate people that damage my cars, no matter how crappy they are. Even if it's an F250 with an 8 track player with such a swiss cheese floor that i've actually lost an 8 track tape out a rust hole. Yeah...
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Exactly why I can't wait for the next person to do it or open the door of their car into mine now that i have some sliders. People have zero respect for other peoples stuff. I had a similar problem to yours when I had my landcruiser and lived by the beach. Someone decided to park their tercel behind my cruiser right on the bumper leaving me no room to get out. The spot behind me wasn't really a space as it was on the corner. I just pushed their heap back a few feet into the side street.
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- For offroading, find a local Jeep club and get to know some people
- They will / should take you on a ride at some point that fits your own and your vehicle's ability. "New member rides" or similar.

If by some chance, you show up to a ride and everyone has trailered in frankenstien jeeps on 37s and 40s, V8 swaps, axles from a dumptruck, etc. Don't follow 'em :-P[/QUOTE]

And check the depth of every mud-hole water crossing prior to entering
More than one jeep here has had transmission failure from water/mud crossings

Also... the worse dents, dings, scratches come from the MALL
Ace sliders have protected my JK and provided incentive to others to open their doors carefully
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- For offroading, find a local Jeep club and get to know some people
- They will / should take you on a ride at some point that fits your own and your vehicle's ability. "New member rides" or similar.

If by some chance, you show up to a ride and everyone has trailered in frankenstien jeeps on 37s and 40s, V8 swaps, axles from a dumptruck, etc. Don't follow 'em :-P
And check the depth of every mud-hole water crossing prior to entering
More than one jeep here has had transmission failure from water/mud crossings

Also... the worse dents, dings, scratches come from the MALL
Ace sliders have protected my JK and provided incentive to others to open their doors carefully[/QUOTE]

This is the funniest post yet this week. Stating that jeeps get the worse damage at the MALL.

Maybe on your jeep, but not all jeeps hang out at the mall.


I know this is not what you ment but..........
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I've always been real anal my vehicles, so this "don't worry about scratches" is new to me.
Yeah I've had to re-train myself with the Jeep. In the past I was always trying to do the silly import tuner thing and think I was going to make and keep it showcar quality including no scratches. The Jeep I've had to re-learn that and I realized one day that "duh" you're not showing it. I still try to avoid pinstriping when at all possible because scratches do compromise the paint, and I'll still polish it once in a while and seal/wax it to help keep the paint system from failing which of course is sped up by scratching the paint.

As long as it's not a full on tree branch dragging down the side though eating down to bare metal it's not usually a concern anymore though. (i.e. I'm not the guy that jumps out at the end of the trail all pissy lol) I did scratch up the skid plates a good bit well before I had paint pinstriping. I didn't really care about those though because #1 that's what they're for, #2 nobody can see those unless they crawl under the jeep, and #3 as long as I didn't smash them in I was good.
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If by some chance, you show up to a ride and everyone has trailered in frankenstien jeeps on 37s and 40s, V8 swaps, axles from a dumptruck, etc. Don't follow 'em :-

Wrong!!!!!For god sakes............GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
You won't worry about the minor scratches ever again!!!!!!
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If by some chance, you show up to a ride and everyone has trailered in frankenstien jeeps on 37s and 40s, V8 swaps, axles from a dumptruck, etc. Don't follow 'em :-

Wrong!!!!!For god sakes............GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
You won't worry about the minor scratches ever again!!!!!!
RIGHT or at least ride along with someone and take photos.
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I fretted the first scratch. This Jeep is my first and before that I babied every car I had, washing/waxing/polishing constantly. First trip out crossing a down tree which was rotted snapped and one side that broke thumped the drivers door and rocker below it, just scuffed the paint a little, no actual damage just purely cosmetic. Also the reason why I got rock sliders. But since that and now after a few Tennessee pin stripes I don't really worry about it. Damage done on the trail is a memory, now some jack wagon at the mall that backs into it or flings his door into it is another story.

Everyone told me the first one is the worst, but once its outta the way you can actually enjoy your Jeep off road. Boy they were right.
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Keep in mind the JK has pretty wide fenders and the stock tires fit well underneath so it does reduce the amount of mud/rock clumps that will be thrown up onto the body. The speed at which you tackle the trail will also make a big difference protecting the body. I regretted taking my rubi down a narrow trail with tree branches overlapping. I put a HUGE scratch 18" long down my door. Still sick over it and I see it every time I get in for a drive.
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im in the same boat as you, this is the first nice vehicle ive ever owned and i get my use out of her. After a few talks with mt brother who has a 12 JKUR and his storys of offroading with me scratching my head asking "but its so nice, why scratch it all up?" he made me realize i bought my jeep for offroading and getting me places and i havent looked back. now i dont plan on ever selling so i figure i might as well have fun.

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