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Old 09-01-2011, 09:46 AM   #1
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Jeeps could get diesel engines



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Future Jeep models in the U.S. could be powered by diesel engines, says the CEO of the Chrysler's Jeep brand.
CEO Michael Manley said Jeep would start with diesels on the Jeep Wrangler and Jeep Grand Cherokee in the U.S. and Canada within two or three years, reports Brent Snavely of the Detroit Free Press. Diesel engines could help Jeep improve its fuel economy and would give customers another option against high gas prices.
"Diesel in some of our models makes absolute sense," Manley told the Free Press in Auburn Hills, Mich., as he revealed six specialized Jeeps that will participate later this month at a the annual Easter Jeep Safari in Moab, Utah, like the one shown in the photo above. "But I still have to make sure there is a sufficient marketplace here to make it make sense from a business perspective."
Even as gas prices have climbed, diesel has remained relatively overlooked. Volkswagen and Audi have scored with diesel models, which can get up to 25% better fuel mileage than gasoline. But not many others.
Yet in Europe, diesel remains the fuel of choice for just about anything because it's cheaper than gas because of a different tax structure. Diesel is considered a better way to fight global warming than gas.
Vehicles to be showcased at the Utah festival include:
  • Jeep JK-8. A Wrangler, shown above, meant to be a throwback to a the CJ Scrambler of the past.
  • Jeep Wrangler Renegade equipped with a 475 horsepower, 6.4-liter Hemi V-8 engine.
  • Jeep Wrangler 'Pork Chop,' which weighs 850 pounds less than the standard Wrangler because the bumpers, hood and fenders are lighter or smaller and there are no doors.

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I would sooo be all over a new JK if jeep got smart and put a diesel in it...

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mine will be paid off just in time-
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And- I just mentioned in another thread "it will never happen"
A lot of folks on here would jump on a diesel in a heart beat, seems like a lot but overall- the people not on these forms (a larger percentage) we really don't know what the true "interested" numbers would be
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Wilmington, eh? I work in Newark.
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:29 AM   #6
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Heh Heh, me too, I'm really happy with my good 'ol gasser-

I wouldn't buy a new one with a diesel !!

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I wouldn't mind a diesel but for it's torque bot it's gas mileage. Not sure about others places but diesel here is expensive compared to gas
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Not to change the subject much but what would be the pros and cons to a diesel wrangler vice a regular gas one?
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Better gas milage for one. more torque at a low rpm would be another perk.

Some of the over seas diesels see upwards of 25-28 mpg. I'm lucky if I can see 15 with my 4.0L
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I wouldn't mind a diesel but for it's torque bot it's gas mileage. Not sure about others places but diesel here is expensive compared to gas
Well, my buddies mom drives a Jetta TDI, and she gets 56 miles per gallon on the highway. My girlfriends Jetta with a 2.5L gasser gets 31. Although the price of fuel is more, in the end you're still saving a lot.
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Yes better torque and better mileage offsets the cost of fuel plus they last forever. Almost
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Yes better torque and better mileage offsets the cost of fuel plus they last forever. Almost


Again-I really don't think the demand will be there. How many people own wranglers that don't visit these forums?
"I want a diesel" I see it all the time. Say 25% of people just on this forum go for it.
Counting in the people that are not on the Internet (and don't care)- drops that 25% way done to like what? I don't think Chrysler will make the available the diesel for only 10% of would be buyers. Not worth it unless they jacked up the price ALOT and at that cost- why not do your own conversion for way less.
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I'd want a diesel for the gas milage.
Imagine getting 25mpg on the highway at 70mph..... Plus the torque....
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I'd want a diesel for the gas milage.
Imagine getting 25mpg on the highway at 70mph..... Plus the torque....
I don't care about the mileage and I don't need anymore torque !!

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I wouldn't mind a diesel but for it's torque bot it's gas mileage. Not sure about others places but diesel here is expensive compared to gas
I agree. Its 10 to 15% higher than gas around my area. I have owned one diesel in my life (vw jetta tdi) and it was the worst engine I have ever had. One issue after another until it finally died.
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Just sayin. thats why there is chocolate or vanilla. Different strokes for different folks. I think clean diesels are better for the environment, better mileage, more torque, and if you dont need that fine. Look at all the hoopla over the pentagrail ,big deal. 80 more horsepower. Didn't know the jeep was a race vehicle. My 2011 does just fine ,but I like diesels. Just my 2 cents.I could have waited for a 2012 but no diesel this year so i bought my 2011 and am thrilled with it, not a problem 1.
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Confirmed 2013 Grand Cherokee getting new turbo diesel option. Keeping my fingers crossed..
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Here you have it...Jeep Grand Cherokee to get 3.0L diesel V6 in North America by 2013

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Autoblog just heard it straight from the Italian-Canadian horse's mouth: The hot new Jeep Grand Cherokee in North America will – somewhere between soon and the end of 2013 – be getting the same recently improved 3.0-liter V6 turbo-diesel engine that Europe gets. In the Grand Cherokee, this oil-burning powerplant is good for 237 horsepower and 406 pound-feet of torque, the latter of which is fully delivered between 1,800 and 2,800 rpm. This is music to all Jamboree and Rubicon fanatics everywhere.

It has not been decided whether or not there might be a special six-speed manual shifter offered alongside the W5A580 five-speed overdrive automatic transmission, and an eight-speed automatic is in the works, as well. But the manual with the Quadra-Drive II transfer case on a Trail Rated Grand Cherokee would bring the glee Stateside even moreso.

Fiat Auto CEO Sergio Marchionne is fast becoming the new Bob Lutz in his ability to cast aside all carefully kept secrets of the communications team and talk about the good things that are coming. Only minutes after Jeep's international bosses artfully skirted the issue of a common-rail diesel GC here in North America, Marchionne assured us that one would, in fact, be coming. We respect the Jeep leaders. We dig Sergio.

Not only does the latest generation of the 3.0-liter CRD engine with Multijet II management – built by VM Motori in Italy based on specifications from Fiat Powertrain Technologies – get 19-percent greater fuel efficiency than the previous mill, it produces 20-percent less CO2 emissions. Towing capacity is quoted at just over 7,700 pounds, the maximum for any current Grand Cherokee trim.

But will the Wrangler get the European 2.8-liter CRD inline-four good for 197 hp and 302 lb-ft of torque, paired with the NSG370 six-speed manual and Rubicon Rock-Trac transfer case? Because that, folks, is the holy grail item. Even Sergio was mum on this.
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Peepers was rofl at me when he asked me to confirm it. Thats all, I didnt mean to offend anyone. I have been waiting for a diesel wrangler for a long time and now it might come true. Just a little excited thats all. Sorry if anyone took it the wrong way, just trying to pass on some good news thats all.
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But will the Wrangler get the European 2.8-liter CRD inline-four good for 197 hp and 302 lb-ft of torque, paired with the NSG370 six-speed manual and Rubicon Rock-Trac transfer case?
Why does this proposed diesel engine have less horsepower than either the 3.8 or 3.6 liter V6? I know diesels generate more torque, but how does the lower horsepower number of the diesel translate into highway performance, passing power, etc as compared to the gas engine?
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Read Matt Davis' rss feed for the wrangler and the diesel got a pretty good following. Thanks.
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Read the specs, better torque, better towing and great gas mileage. I feel its not all about horsepower but torque to. I'm an electrician by trade so by no means do I claim to be a diesel mechanic but all around performance for a 4 wheel drive seems to be a diesel. Someone enlighten me if I'm wrong. I don't cliam to know it all or be perfect just passing on some news I came across on the internet that got me a little excited. Passing other vehicles did not seem to be a problem with the reviews...
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Why does this proposed diesel engine have less horsepower than either the 3.8 or 3.6 liter V6? I know diesels generate more torque, but how does the lower horsepower number of the diesel translate into highway performance, passing power, etc as compared to the gas engine?
Torque equals more passing power. Horsepower is at its highest usually near redline whereas torque should be there from 1500 rpms on. No need to downshift and spin the engine up.
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Oh yea and I gotta love the diesels in the fire trucks. Simply badass.

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