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Old 08-08-2014, 05:50 AM   #1
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Seems like a no brainer to me

Got this in my email yesterday from my dealer
bottom line with the dealer sending out deals like this why would you ever change your own oil--I can't even buy the filter and oil for 25 bucks.


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Oil & Filter Change, Tire Rotation, plus so much more.
Includes oil replacement up to 5 qts, new Mopar® Oil Filter, tire rotation, multi-point inspection of these and additional items (not listed): tire/tire pressure, windshield wipers, exterior lamps, cooling system mixture/leaks, air filter, fluid level, belts/hoses (excluding timing belt), and dealer parts, installation and labor. Additional charges may apply, including synthetic oil. Special wheels/specialty vehicles slightly higher. Price does not include repairs that might be required after inspection. Present this coupon when the order is written. Not valid with other offers. Customer is responsible for local tax and Shop Supplies fee. Offer valid for Chrysler Group LLC vehicles only, excluding Chrysler Crossfire. See your Service Advisor for complete details. ©2014 Chrysler Group LLC. All Rights Reserved. Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram, HEMI and Mopar are registered trademarks of Chrysler Group LLC. $2.00 charge for fluid/filter disposal. Offer Expires 8/31/2014

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Because I don't want them to touch my jeep unless absolutely necessary.

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Old 08-08-2014, 06:10 AM   #3
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Because an air filter is $10 (stealership) , Penzoil platinum full synthetic $30 (Wally World) so for within $5-10 of the dealership change I get full synthetic and I know my jeep is not being molested by some kid that just wants to get the job done, Not necessarily done right.

That $24.99 turns into a lot more when you want full synthetic.

Also, nobody touches my Jeep but me.
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because an air filter is $10 (stealership) , penzoil platinum full synthetic $30 (wally world) so for within $5-10 of the dealership change i get full synthetic and i know my jeep is not being molested by some kid that just wants to get the job done, not necessarily done right. That $24.99 turns into a lot more when you want full synthetic. Also, nobody touches my jeep but me.
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Old 08-08-2014, 06:31 AM   #5
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Let the local guys do it, no dealer. Stand in in the bay and watch 'em too. Then get home and check the torques anyways.
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Because an air filter is $10 (stealership) , Penzoil platinum full synthetic $30 (Wally World) so for within $5-10 of the dealership change I get full synthetic and I know my jeep is not being molested by some kid that just wants to get the job done, Not necessarily done right.

That $24.99 turns into a lot more when you want full synthetic.

Also, nobody touches my Jeep but me.
x3 I'd pay more not to go to the dealer. I was in there for the UConnect upgrade which I had to do for them because the guy did not know how to read the directions. They backed a Dodge Ram into my front bumper... TWICE!!! I jumped out of the Jeep and yelled at the other service guy before he could do it a third time. Fortunately, I was in the shop that time.
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The 3.6 takes 6 quarts.
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:17 AM   #8
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Oil & Filter Change, Tire Rotation, plus so much more.
Includes oil replacement up to 5 qts, new Mopar® Oil Filter, tire rotation, multi-point inspection of these and additional items (not listed): tire/tire pressure, windshield wipers, exterior lamps, cooling system mixture/leaks, air filter, fluid level, belts/hoses (excluding timing belt), and dealer parts, installation and labor. Additional charges may apply, including synthetic oil. Special wheels/specialty vehicles slightly higher. Price does not include repairs that might be required after inspection. Present this coupon when the order is written. Not valid with other offers. Customer is responsible for local tax and Shop Supplies fee. Offer valid for Chrysler Group LLC vehicles only, excluding Chrysler Crossfire. See your Service Advisor for complete details. ©2014 Chrysler Group LLC. All Rights Reserved. Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram, HEMI and Mopar are registered trademarks of Chrysler Group LLC. $2.00 charge for fluid/filter disposal. Offer Expires 8/31/2014
Which means they will find something that absolutly muss be fixed right now.
It's just a way to get you into the shop.
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Which means they will find something that absolutly muss be fixed right now.
It's just a way to get you into the shop.
Yep, it is just a way to get you into the shop. I used to use coupons for an oil change place when I was in college. It was super cheap but every time I went in for an oil change, they would give me a list of things that needed to be repaired. Once I brought my car to a mechanic I knew well and trusted and I showed him the list and he took a quick look at the car and laughed saying that I did not need any of that stuff.
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I avoid the dealership like the plague.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:17 AM   #11
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I've taken my vehicles to Jiffy Lube many times. They have a window so I can watch. They go over what they've done when I pay, they show me the fluid levels before I leave. They clean my windows and vacuum my floors. The price is reasonable and they act like they want my business. They have free coffee.

I've taken my trucks to my local dealer for some free oil changes and warranty work. They lost my truck once and it took them 45 minutes to find it. They dented the passenger door another time and blamed it on me. I asked them to look at my ashtray once to see why it wouldn't open properly and they said it would be $89 bucks just to look at it. They lost another truck and when they finally found it hiding on their back lot, they couldn't find the keys. The don't wash my vehicles, they don't tell me what they did, they don't show me my fluid levels. They act like I'm bothering them when I show up. When I come to pick my vehicle up, they just point me at the cashier and then I usually wait 20 minutes for some teenager to drive my $50,000 Cummins out to me...if they can find it. I don't go to the dealer, even for free oils changes anymore.
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The 3.6 takes 6 quarts.

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Old 08-08-2014, 12:20 PM   #13
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........... I asked them to look at my ashtray once to see why it wouldn't open properly and they said it would be $89 bucks just to look at it. .............
So were they suppose to look at if for free? I get an ashtray is not on the level of complication of other things that could be seriously wrong but if you could not readily figure it out, how was the dealer tech suppose to and not charge you for the time?

Non warranty shop time around here is $160 to $210 an hour with a 0.5 hour minimum charge.
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Chrysler usually offers 3 or 4 oil changes for around $50. I've just been buying that deal for the past year and a half. You can use them at any Chrysler dealer too.
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my jeep came with 10ish free oil changes. sounds great, except they use the cheapest oil they can possibly find.
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The 3.6 takes 6 quarts.
This for starters. Then I have no way of knowing if they're actually using decent oil and filter or cheaper crap, actually replacing the filter (yeah, this happens!), replacing/forgetting/doubling up the O-ring, stripping out the drain bolt, leaving the drain bolt out completely, or not tightening it up. Also, someone else driving my Jeep.

If I'm going to stand over their shoulder (if they'd even let me in the shop, which they won't) then why not just do it myself? It'll take less time than driving, waiting, watching, and driving home, and I doubt I'm saving any money when gas and time are taken into account. Throw in peace of mind of knowing that A-it's done right and B-anything wrong is my own idiot fault, and I'll never pay for an oil change.
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So were they suppose to look at if for free? I get an ashtray is not on the level of complication of other things that could be seriously wrong but if you could not readily figure it out, how was the dealer tech suppose to and not charge you for the time?

Non warranty shop time around here is $160 to $210 an hour with a 0.5 hour minimum charge.
It's the attitude. Costs them next to nothing to look it over and I was there getting a $100 oil change for my diesel anyway. They might discover its a couple of quarters lodged behind it (which I discovered when I looked at it at home later) and pulled them out. They might have found something that needed replacing, hence an opportunity to make some money. Either way, they get a happy customer and maybe some repeat business. If they want to charge me shop time for every little thing at a half hour minimum, fine, but don't expect me to like it.

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So were they suppose to look at if for free? I get an ashtray is not on the level of complication of other things that could be seriously wrong but if you could not readily figure it out, how was the dealer tech suppose to and not charge you for the time?

Non warranty shop time around here is $160 to $210 an hour with a 0.5 hour minimum charge.

X2. I would put my guys back there against most any mechanics out there. Oh..... and that lube tech at Jiffy lube is the same lube tech that got fired from the dealership because he couldn't cut the mustard.
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my jeep came with 10ish free oil changes. sounds great, except they use the cheapest oil they can possibly find.
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It's the attitude. Costs them next to nothing to look it over and I was there getting a $100 oil change for my diesel anyway. They might discover its a couple of quarters lodged behind it (which I discovered when I looked at it at home later) and pulled them out. They might have found something that needed replacing, hence an opportunity to make some money. Either way, they get a happy customer and maybe some repeat business. If they want to charge me shop time for every little thing at a half hour minimum, fine, but don't expect me to like it.

There's a right way to do business to keep your customers happy and there's a wrong way. Some good will today usually means more money tomorrow.
Next to nothing? How much money do you make an hour. A lot more than that tech I am sure.
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Jeep+Lift Kit+35s= 15 min oil change, no jack needed

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I mostly just don't like waiting at the dealer. It is a deal at $25 but my time is worth more.

My self oil change last week with regular conventional oil plus Mopar filter was $33 and I still need to dispose the oil. At least it was on my free time. 11pm on a Wednesday.
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Oh, by the way, I like to work on my old TJ myself, and that is why I do it. I teach my sons who help work on it, and 6 quarts and a filter at Autozone only costs me $22.00. Of course that is Dino oil. Change it myself every 3,000 miles. Oh, and almost every auto parts store will take you old oil for free. I just take it to my work and recycle it there.
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I didn't even take my Jeep in for the free oil changes they gave me when I bought it. I'll do it myself and use better oil, thanks.
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I take my bimmer for oil changes at the BMW dealership, which looks more high tech and cleaner than an operating room.

I will NOT take my Jeep to the Jeep dealership, which looks like a scene from Dante's Inferno.
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My Dealer does a great job, it's been changed 3 times and I still have two or three free Synthetic changes coming..

Wish he was here in Phoenix.
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The dealer here is not bad--and yes if you like they will let you watch them when they do the work. Additionally if the mess something up it will be a lot easier for me to get them to make it right then another shop. As for the oil they use--do you really think that there is any dramatic differences in modern oils-- For use in the real world non racing situations the real difference is all in customer preference and their belief that one brand is better then another--they all meet the same lubrication certifications and inspections. For dino oils the difference is in the additive package--they all start from the same hole in the ground. For those who disagree maybe take a look at this link and see what you think.

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Last time I let a dealership change my oil they left the cap off and I didn't think to look under the hood before leaving and driving on the beach. Oil spewed all over the inside. I'd rather not have someone who doesn't care about my Jeep touching it. I'd have to double check them anyway.
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Last time I let a dealership change my oil they left the cap off and I didn't think to look under the hood before leaving and driving on the beach. Oil spewed all over the inside. I'd rather not have someone who doesn't care about my Jeep touching it. I'd have to double check them anyway.
Yup, they left the cap off and failed to tighten the filter, oil everywhere, including the fender flares, they didn't even clean it up despite saying they did. They offered me free servicing but when I asked the service manager why I would possibly want more shitty sub-par service even at no cost his only reply was 'I don't like to here that we give shitty service.' I told him that I like getting shitting service even less. We don't talk anymore, more mainly because I refuse any and all attempts to be sucked in again for 'free' service. I also made them take me off their mailing list. Bunch of douche nozzles operating with idiot techs.
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Yup, they left the cap off and failed to tighten the filter, oil everywhere, including the fender flares, they didn't even clean it up despite saying they did. They offered me free servicing but when I asked the service manager why I would possibly want more shitty sub-par service even at no cost his only reply was 'I don't like to here that we give shitty service.' I told him that I like getting shitting service even less. We don't talk anymore, more mainly because I refuse any and all attempts to be sucked in again for 'free' service. I also made them take me off their mailing list. Bunch of douche nozzles operating with idiot techs.





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