thanks guys! I will put more pix tomorrow.. kinda too dark to take more pix right now.. the hardtop is about 80LBS.. having pully is nice but it can add more $$$.. the rope is waaay cheaper at walmart.. about $3.. same rope costs $12 at Home Depot.. the rest rigging parts about $1 each at Home Depot.. No need that $5-$10 pully.. here's how..
the trick really is.. after taking hardtop bolts out.. put each hooks(i used carabiners) one at a time on all 4 corners so it would lift the top off just about 6"..you will have to measure the length of the rope for this.. you can lift this thing 6" off easily if you do it one corner at a time.. no pully needed..
then drive your jeep out slowly.. since the back side is where all the weight is, you will have to make sure the back side gets enough support!! Not only the support it needs, but it also requires BALANCE!! IMPORTANT!! otherwise it will flipped the front side shoot upward creating a DISASTER!! i tied 4 extra carabiners at the end of the lines and made little ring knots about 12" from the each end of the lines. I measured 12" because that's the height that I need so the top wont touch the ceiling, so you do the math..
now, grab that extra carabiner from one back corner and hook the ring knot.. this is when you need some oomphs.. basically you're bringing each corner up 12" for clearance! do the same on the other back corner and move on the front ones.. that's all.. i'm not sure if i made that clear but.. i will put more pix tomorrow!
In picture 3 it does look like you might end up pulling the top apart.
actually it's holding really nice.. i dont see any bending or anything unusual about it.. it's keeping its original shapes and form.. i will keep eye on it though.. so far.. it's still hanging up there.. thanks!
the rope is coming straight down perpendicular to the floor.. so it's not like pulling it outward.. the rope goes around the back actually pulling two carabiners on the back just to level the hardtop.. and help to support its weight.. 4 screw eyebolts is holding back part of the top and 2 screw eyebolts holing front part.. i think that should do the job..
you will have to measure the height of carabiners(purple) that hooks the holes so it would lift it 6" off from the sitting position.. do it while your jeep is parked in the garage!! and the secondary carabiners(red) are the ones will give it another 12" lift.. working one corner at a time..
I mean what's the point of spending $200-$300 hoist that weights 3-4 time MORE than the hardtop itself?? the hardtop is only about 80LBS!!!
If you will have to put the top on and off more often, then i guess you could spent more money on electronic pully and stuff.. but i do have softtop that will be on my jeep until winter time.. so i'm OK with $16 investment..
Nice idea. Not meaning to nit pick but those carabiners that you are using are probably not rated even close to the weight that is on them. The ones at the hardware stores are not real carabiners and are better suited for clips for key chains.
My thoughts exactly on the clips. I'm not trusting my $2000 top with .99 keychain clips. Something else to think about, lifting your top from the outside like this is pulling the bottoms outward. Essentially spredding your top, and after time you just might start seeing stress cracks if you leave this hanging over a period of time. There is a point where saving money is going to cost more in the long run.
Here's my setup, I used 2000+ # test marine grade rope from West Marine, pulleys rated at 100+ lbs each with all anchors set to ceiling joints with 4" deck screws. Four points on the top will attach (hopefully) via some homemade hooks I made. The plastic-cote wasn't dry to use the flat bar hooks on the back end of the top, so I used flat straps tied into the front hooks.
I picked up a winch at Harbor Freight after trying to raise using armstrong (fail) but the winch works awesome. I move around quite a bit, so this setup will only be here until wintertime so I'm planning on setting the winch on a box I'll make from 3/4" plywood and fill with sand or 200 lbs or so of junk. I don't want to anchor to the floor since I'm only here for a short while.
Took the top off for about an hour and it didn't hit the floor. Was a little crooked, but once I use the right anchors and get everything adjusted, it should work just fine. I'm toying with the idea of adding a frame made from unistrut, but as much as I move around, I really don't need one more thing to mess with. Next I'll figure out a way to keep the freedom tops steady while sitting on top of the hard top. Any ideas? Maybe a rubber pad or floormat? with a tie-down looped around the hard top to hold the freedom tops down?
Here's the whole setup, can't believe the picture is fuzzy, but it's in the air and I'm topless!
Whole setup from a different angle
Yay! Topless, but the doors gotta go next time
Here's the rope & pulley setup
Rope & pulley setup from the side
Here's my homemade hooks
Temporarily attached winch, steps were anchored down good enough that I couldn't budge them with just the 2x4 attached.
someone has already mentioned the carabiners not being strong enough, i agree. also, if you just connect the 2 purple ones across the bottom of the top, maybe it will cradle the top rather than spread it apart. look into parachute cord. its cheap and strong. and try to get some carabiners rated for climbing. more expensive but probably worth it.
good idea none the less. i would rather see someone make something if they can.