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Old 10-20-2011, 05:45 PM   #1
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Shift technique with 6-speed manual

Hi All,

First time owner of a 6-speed manual with my 2012 Rubi; I've driven 4 and 5-speeds in the past with no problems, but still getting used to hitting 6th gear at highway speeds.
Any suggestions for a smoother shifting technique to get to 6th? Seems I'm always dropping to 4th when coming out of 5th, LOL! Obviously don't want to hit REV by mistake. I know its a "feel" thing.

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Old 10-20-2011, 05:52 PM   #2
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Hi All,

First time owner of a 6-speed manual with my 2012 Rubi; I've driven 4 and 5-speeds in the past with no problems, but still getting used to hitting 6th gear at highway speeds.
Any suggestions for a smoother shifting technique to get to 6th? Seems I'm always dropping to 4th when coming out of 5th, LOL! Obviously don't want to hit REV by mistake. I know its a "feel" thing.

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I don't own a 6-spd but my DW and I drove a new one yesterday. We found that a slight pressure towards the passanger seat as we shifted it from 5th to 6th worked for the one we drove. I am sure others who own them will chime in here. Good luck with your new JK - we expect to order a new JK 6-spd within a week.

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Old 10-20-2011, 05:55 PM   #3
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Don't force the shift. Gently guide it into 6th. I did the same as you when I first got mine and quickly realized that all that is required is gental guaidance.

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Old 10-20-2011, 06:10 PM   #4
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Don't force it. It's a smooth straight shift down. You'll get used to it. And welcome to WF. Don't forget to Wave.
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:17 PM   #5
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dont have a jk but my tj is a 6 speed, i dont think ive ever accidentaly went to 4th, its just straight back from 5th...like if your goin from 3rd to 4th..just pull it straight back lol
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:22 PM   #6
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dont have a jk but my tj is a 6 speed, i dont think ive ever accidentaly went to 4th, its just straight back from 5th...like if your goin from 3rd to 4th..just pull it straight back lol
Same trans.
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don't force it. It's a smooth straight shift down. You'll get used to it. And welcome to wf. Don't forget to wave.
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:33 PM   #8
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It gets easier.

Its NOT a great set up, that said it really does get easier with use.

I hit the dreaded "R" a couple of times the first week.....makes a hell of a noise!

Won't go in ( I think ) but it can be hit. Do what the rest have said, stright back from 5th.....sort of.......
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:34 PM   #9
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Like you I have owned (still have 2 other) stickshifts and have had to adjust to the 5-6 shift...except I am old and lazy and really do not need/want/see a use for 6 gears. Soooo, I find it convenient to skip gears, but have twice hit R going from 4-6. As long as I stay in the normal pattern of 1-2-3-4-5-6 peace and harmony abounds. But that reverse shift at 50 mph REALLY sucks. Just follow the pattern and keep a steady pressure toward your girlfriends kneecap and it will slide like butter into 6 and not hit R. Get sloppy, lazy, and tired and try 4-6 without forethought and...oh snap!
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We found that a slight pressure towards the passanger seat as we shifted it from 5th to 6th worked for the one we drove.
That's it. You're not "locked out" of reverse, but there's definitely some opposition to get it through that gate so I wouldn't be too worried about putting it in reverse by accident. Just keep a slight pressure toward the passenger seat on the stick so that it stays to the right and pull straight back.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:25 PM   #11
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The 1st manual JK I test drove I hit Reverse, once. After reading a few recommendations here it was simple the next test drive and I ordered the manual as a result of my feeling good about it. For me like others have said, while in 5th gear when you're ready to shift put your hand on the shifter, apply slight pressure on the stick towards the passenger side of the gate and shift straight down. Slipped right in, no problem. That was my 2nd time doing it and I've driven manuals all my life but this tranny is different.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:33 PM   #12
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Sounds like grinding at the dentist. Hits my nerves.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:26 PM   #13
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It takes a lot of effort to make it hit reverse, I too was concerned initially but it has never happened. Just a little pressure (not a push) towards the passenger side and slide it down.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:42 PM   #14
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There are a lot of previous threads in the forum on the 5 - 6 shift.

A little static practice might go a long way. Park, engage parking brake, engine off. Shift up and down, slowly and gently. You will be surprised how easy and natural it becomes, especially when you are not distracted by the thought of ripping the teeth off reverse.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:00 PM   #16
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Slight pressure to the right before shifting out of 5th then it will smoothly fall into 6th. Doing this you don't have to worry about moving to the right during the shift.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:25 AM   #17
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There are two detent springs to the right and and one to the left on your transmission. The static position of the gear shift lever, which is maintained by the detent springs, is in the 3rd and 4th gear gate. You will notice that it takes pressure to pull the gear shift lever to the left to get into the 1st and 2nd gear gate. As well it takes pressure to get the shifter to slide over to the 5th and 6th gear gate, and takes even more pressure to access the reverse gate.
If you are used to a 5 speed, it is natural to want to release the rightward pressure when going to 6th because with the 5 speed you would be going into reverse if you maintained the rightward pressure on the gear shift lever (more likely you would grind the stuffing out of reverse rather than actually getting it into reverse). This is due to muscle and mental memory.
To get used to the new shift pattern, I would practice moving the gear shift lever over to the 5th and 6th gear gate then to the reverse gate. I would make a mental note of the extra pressure it takes to get all the way over to the reverse gate. You will be able to tell the difference in the extra pressure it takes to get the shifter all the way over to the Reverse gate. Once you have practiced this for a few minutes then I would practice cycling the shifter through the gears. In just a few minutes you will become more comfortable with the new shift pattern, thereby decreasing your tendency to release the rightward pressure when shifting from 5th to 6th.
This is not an uncommon problem, as I have driven almost every concievable manual transmission: twin stick 5x4's, 4 speeds, with reverse gear right and foward and left and foward, etc.
Even a veteran gear jammer like me had this problem and figured it out pretty quick.
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Too bad they couldn't have put R next to first gear like the old 4 speeds. There must be a reason it couldn't be done? Doesn't reverse have to be pulled to the right and down, and 6 is straight down directly under 5?
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It takes a lot of effort to make it hit reverse, I too was concerned initially but it has never happened. Just a little pressure (not a push) towards the passenger side and slide it down.

i agree, i'm surprised at the number of people saying they have accidentally put it in reverse. its a deliberate effort to get it into reverse. maybe the newer ones are slightly different than the '07 i am driving...?
a friend of mine drove my jeep and he couldn't even get it into reverse. it was pretty funny.

from 5th though, just straight down. not a lot of pressure; just straight down. you'll get it
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An upper left R would have worked better than the current lower right location. I had a volkswagen that had reverse in the upper left corner and you had to push down on the shifter to get it into reverse. Seemed like a good system.

When I test drove a couple new JK's I kept constantly going from 5th into 4th. It's that fear of hitting reverse I think that causes this. Subconsciously you move slightly left instead of straight down to avoid reverse I believe
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Old 10-21-2011, 07:51 AM   #21
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just sitting here thinking about this...i agree it would be hard to PUT into reverse, while not as hard to grind it a bit missing 6th. I don;t really grip the gear shift. hand position might help you make the transition easier. i know that when i shift to 1/3/5, i normally have my thumb up and put my palm on the back of the shifter at about the 0600 position and push it forward into the gear (1/3/5). when i shift to 2/4/6/ i have my thumb down and put my hand in the 1200 position and push it back accordingly. seldom do i "grab" it and wiggle it into position. it just goes naturally. when going 1-2, keep a little pressure towards your leg, it shapps to neutral going from 2-3 and you just pusit forward to 3, pull back to 4, a little outside pressure to 5 and pull back with a little outside pressure to 6. eezy peezy, least for me. i don't even think about it.

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Its a gearbox not a jukebox... I've been guilty of finding R while looking for 6.
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Same trans.
always wondered if it was lol love havin a 6 speed
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:03 AM   #24
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I would hazard a guess that everyone at one point or another has hit the reverse, got the grind then let go. Like others have stated. sit in your driveway with the engine off and practice shifting through the gears. It took me a couple of days to get comfy with the way these shift. My stang (5 speed) had a short throw so couple that and a sixer with long throw just equates to getting used to the shift pattern and feel

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On the other hand its real fun to downshift from 6th to 3rd thinking you're going into fifth. It's a good way to break in your tachometer.
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:13 PM   #26
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My expeience with the 6 speed is the same as some others have said. It take a slight push toward the passenger side when going 5 to 6. I find that while still in 5th, if I take the slack out toward the passenger side, and then drop straight down from that spot she drops oh-so-smoothly into 6th.

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.......If you are used to a 5 speed, it is natural to want to release the rightward pressure when going to 6th because with the 5 speed you would be going into reverse if you maintained the rightward pressure on the gear shift lever (more likely you would grind the stuffing out of reverse rather than actually getting it into reverse). This is due to muscle and mental memory. .......
Even a veteran gear jammer like me had this problem and figured it out pretty quick.
That make sense to me - especially considering that my daily driver for the last 10 years has a 5 speed.
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Yep just a very light pressure to pass side for 5th to 6th and 6th to 5th. Basically as stated take out the slack. I did a couple 5th to 4th shifts initially trying to get to 6th. Reverse though seems safe as it requires quite a bit of force to the pass side. No issues there. All in all very happy with the 6 speed.
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Hopefully by the time you read this post, you're already used to it! And waving with the other hand! :-)
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I used to worry about the accidental reverse shift. After 4 years of shifting experience with the 6 speed jeep, I can say I don't worry about it in the least now. I'm a gear skipper. I skip gears a lot. On level surfaces I use 1,2,4,6 a lot. I used to worry about accidentally going into reverse especially in this gear pattern going 4 to 6. When I do it now, very rarely, I will hit the reverse gate. When this happens....even before I put pressure in the direction of the gear (when you WILL hear grinding) I know that I am in the reverse gate and simply let off a little pressure and get out of the reverse gate and go right into 6th. It has become so automatic, that the brain just immediately responds without thinking about it. So, eventually you will just know what that reverse gate feels like and if you hit it, will correct it before any grinding occurs. It is a complete non issue.
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I have an LJ 6-spd. The only time I hit R is when I'm a bit upset and trying to shift fast through the gears going around someone texting or doing something boneheaded.........then zing into reverse....almost. It will definitely let you know. It must not be too bad because I didn't see any big chunks in the trans lube when I changed it.

I start off in 2nd gear anyway. 1st is just too low for the street, winds out too fast. Works great as a creeper gear in snow, traffic and trails.......

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