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Old 09-15-2012, 03:27 PM   #31
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Go turbo! I may be biased though, since I have one.

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Old 09-16-2012, 09:52 AM   #32
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RIPP, what's the longevity on a supercharger? Any negative aspects to internal engine parts over time?
Glad you asked.

As long as you keep up with the oil change interval, it should be upwards of 100k miles. We have Supercharged Jeeps running around with over 100k miles with no problems.
Upon disassembly of our orginal 2008 JK with aprox 35k supercharged miles, we found the internals of the 3.8l more than up to the task of forced induction. The rods were "beefy" with oil sqirters when compared to it's mini van brother. Also, the piston skirts were coated with a low ring landing.
I think I need to mention that we designed our system with reliability of your vehicle in mind. We like to think of our system as a "Jeep part". We know the limits of the 3.8L and we made sure that the power levels that our system provides is nowhere near them. Peak potential power does you no good if you throw a rod 15 mile form nowhere.

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Old 09-16-2012, 11:27 AM   #33
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Glad you asked.

As long as you keep up with the oil change interval, it should be upwards of 100k miles. We have Supercharged Jeeps running around with over 100k miles with no problems.
Upon disassembly of our orginal 2008 JK with aprox 35k supercharged miles, we found the internals of the 3.8l more than up to the task of forced induction. The rods were "beefy" with oil sqirters when compared to it's mini van brother. Also, the piston skirts were coated with a low ring landing.
I think I need to mention that we designed our system with reliability of your vehicle in mind. We like to think of our system as a "Jeep part". We know the limits of the 3.8L and we made sure that the power levels that our system provides is nowhere near them. Peak potential power does you no good if you throw a rod 15 mile form nowhere.

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Thanks. Seriously thinking of getting one down the road after I get the jeep paid off.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:32 PM   #34
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all in all...... nobody explained pro`s & con`s for supercharger or turbo.. all I see is someone trying to sell products either way!!!!!!!
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:41 PM   #35
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Ew s2000 why would you do that to yourself
Don't know if that is a serious remark, but it is one of the best production driver's cars for the money, much less fully built like mine is. Hard to hit a racetrack with a Jeep.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:45 PM   #36
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all in all...... nobody explained pro`s & con`s for supercharger or turbo.. all I see is someone trying to sell products either way!!!!!!!
Ummm...I think this thread summed it up nicely.

Turbo

Pros:
More power
More torque
Not parasitic
Better MPG
Low end power

Cons:
Costs more
Heat

Superchargers

Pros:
Price
Limping home is easier

Cons;
Linear power, if the vehicle has nothing down low stock, it has nothing down low blown.
lower power
lower torque

Reliability is a myth. People say superchargers are more reliable than turbos when comparing a $5000 supercharger kit to a $5000 turbo kit, which isn't a fair comparison. Both can be made to be EXTREMELY reliable, but the turbo will cost more to engineer properly.
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Cons;
Linear power, if the vehicle has nothing down low stock, it has nothing down low blown.


Reliability is a myth. People say superchargers are more reliable than turbos when comparing a $5000 supercharger kit to a $5000 turbo kit, which isn't a fair comparison. Both can be made to be EXTREMELY reliable, but the turbo will cost more to engineer properly.
I think you need to re-examine your facts on the cons.

As a past builder and installer of many turbo systems, including our own 600+ whp FWD 1.8L Acura Integra IDRC campaigned race car. We know that unless it extremely well engineered and designed (read Expensive) and professionally installed (expensive again) it has no place in a back yard do it yourself jeepers hands.

Our system is not marketed as the most powerful on the market, it is marked as what your vehicle SHOULD have HAD.

Our use of a Vortech V3 SiQ trim SC, which has a rated capacity for over 600hp, and a Diablosport tuner that does NOT leave you locked into a tune if you choose to further expand power ratings. (do at your own risk)

We aired on the side of reliability over power, price over punch, ease of installation and maintenance (no special tools required and a 6-8 hour install time).

Turbo's are great, they really are, but WE feel they are not the best option for a Jeep. Why we designed our system the way we have.

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