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Old 11-17-2011, 05:27 PM   #1
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Should i or shouldnt i

Back in May I purchased my first jeep wrangler. It's a 2008 2 door Red Rock Crystal X with freedom top, 16 inch wheels, sub woofer & half doors. All factory with 16,325 miles (now 28,000). I absolutely love it and after one summer cant imagine why i waited until i was 41 to buy one. My half doors leak a bit in heavy rain at a stand still, not so much when moving, but in their defense i travel the freeway to and from work about 10 miles which causes the doors to want to pull out at the top so i think there stretching. So here's my dilemma.
I am ready to get Good Year Duratracs because i hunt and go snowmobiling and need a more aggressive tire, however as much as i love the half doors im annoyed by the water intrusion and forthcoming cold winter in MIchgian to the point im contemplating selling it and getting another 2 door Rubicon with full doors and both tops. I'm thinking id be happier and don't want to spend the 900 on tires if im not going to keep it. Im told factory half doors are the shit and i loved having them, i feel its a better experience and certainly more convenient than removing them. I also know i can buy aftermarket half doors cheaply for the summer months on another jeep. Im torn. Help!

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Old 11-17-2011, 05:36 PM   #2
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My vote is for should

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Old 11-17-2011, 05:43 PM   #3
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Did you just ask if you should either (a) buy new tires or (b) buy a brand new Rubicon??

That's not exactly two comparable choices if you know what I mean.

My understanding is that the half doors are not supposed to leak and you can (usually) fix leaks generally. And aftermarket half doors (at least those that are true doors, rather than fabric stretched over a frame or something similar) aren't very "cheap" in my view. And the modern soft tops (at least with full doors) in fact do just fine in super cold winters.

But regardless, if money is not an issue then why not just get the Jeep that you want? If it doesn't kill your finances, I can't imagine you'll ever be driving a shiny new Rubicon going, "Yeah, this was a mistake."
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:45 PM   #4
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Depends on how upside down you would be and how much you can afford, that said I would say yes and look for an '11 probably some great deals out there plus the 0% financing
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Don't want to do what I did and spent $4000 (including tires) on my Tj then traded it in

But I could not be more happy
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:53 PM   #6
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I financed 18K on it. I think i can get out whole with the mileage being so low if i were to explore something else. Im happy paying for something i throughly enjoy. What i was struggling with was being happy with the half doors and the jeep i have vs one with solid doors basically. I should have been more clear. I also agree that the hard half doors aren't cheap and i wouldn't likely go that rout rather than just tube doors with skin for those long weekends where i left the doors off.
I wasnt thinking a new one either, like a 9,10 or 11 with low mileage if i can find it. I dont care for the new interior anyways, i think it's to "car like" and too European. I work for a company that designs interiors for all the OEM's and that one went the wrong way in my opinion.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:57 PM   #7
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Ahh, okay, well then that makes the correct choice (to me, anyway) more obvious.

Hang out on this forum for a little while, get your post count up to 15 so you can post in the for sale section, and then offer to swap your doors with somebody. Meet up with local jeepers and see who's interested too. It'd be a no-cost or minimal cost exchange and you'd get full doors. You'll have no trouble getting rid of OEM half doors, I suspect.

With full doors, you won't need a new top to survive winter. The JK's heater is like a blast furnace from hell and it holds in the heat fine.
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I financed 18K on it. I think i can get out whole with the mileage being so low if i were to explore something else. Im happy paying for something i throughly enjoy. What i was struggling with was being happy with the half doors and the jeep i have vs one with solid doors basically. I should have been more clear. I also agree that the hard half doors aren't cheap and i wouldn't likely go that rout rather than just tube doors with skin for those long weekends where i left the doors off.
I wasnt thinking a new one either, like a 9,10 or 11 with low mileage if i can find it. I dont care for the new interior anyways, i think it's to "car like" and too European. I work for a company that designs interiors for all the OEM's and that one went the wrong way in my opinion.
New interior in 2011 :P
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:09 PM   #9
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That would be ideal. I thought about buying full doors and they are several thousand. I like your idea to try and trade, but what's the likeliness of finding the same color, especially red rock crystal. Thanks for your advise though, it's good to hear everyone's comments.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:13 PM   #10
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Where are you located? If they're in good shape I'll trade doors straight up. Leaks can be fixed. Ha;fdoors are hard to come by.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:39 PM   #11
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Wow, thats crazy. Before I bought my jeep i stole your photo of your jeep in the ocean and it was my screensaver. it was the exact jeep i wanted. Small world. Im in Michigan. Your in Maryland?

There in really good shape. no dings. only one pin head size chip on drivers door. The plastic has some scratches, but nothing that a 4 year jeep woudl look like. They were nearly new when i bought it cause the mileage was so low. Do these things all line up properly and don't have issues from one to another? How do yours look?
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They are in perfect shape because they spend most of the time hanging in my garage. You do realize the leak can be fixed, right? Get some 1/2 inch foam weather stripping from Home Depot and put in the the front corner section of the door surrounds. You can also adjust your door uppers by bending the pins slightly.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:49 PM   #13
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That would be ideal. I thought about buying full doors and they are several thousand. I like your idea to try and trade, but what's the likeliness of finding the same color, especially red rock crystal. Thanks for your advise though, it's good to hear everyone's comments.
I wouldn't worry about color. Sure, try to match if possible but you could always get them painted to match or just paint them black with some good bedliner. And they'll be a direct and perfect fit with any JK.

The only concern I'd have would be getting someone with crank windows rather than power windows. I don't know how hard it would be to retro-fit your jeep to use power windows.
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Mike, he has half doors now. He's not wired for power windows.
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Mike, he has half doors now. He's not wired for power windows.
I know. I was referring to whomever he trades with. If he ends up with hard doors that are set for power, he won't be able to crank down his new windows.
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That's an interesting thought. I wonder if they would work if you just plugged them in.
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That's an interesting thought. I wonder if they would work if you just plugged them in.
Exactly. I was wondering that . . . he won't have the switches in his console though. Might be plug and play . . . or might not.
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I will look into the weather stripping in the corners. I didn't think about the power windows either. Good point.
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Well that seemed to do the trick. Adjusted the doors, used seal all on the inside of the weatherstripping where it meets the sheet metal on the door upper corners. I also made sure the seals were in place all around the door and some weren't in the bottom. I then rubbed vasaline on all the seals and rubbed that in good. Then i used bees waz on all my zippers. It's been raining on and off for days and i havent had any water come in. Carpet is dry, no drips, etc. Pretty happy and will likely just keep them and maintain them often. I think the days they are off far out ways the the winter days there on. As for tires, i will move forward and get the duratracs after xmas. Thanks for all the advice!
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Old 12-05-2011, 08:05 AM   #20
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:41 PM   #22
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well tom, you just lost your half doors! lol must some bloomingdale left in you yet.

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