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Old 10-29-2010, 08:58 PM   #31
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If your TJ is paid off, I would keep it. Think of the mods you could buy with the price difference between your TJ and a JK. Plus, if you mod the JK and it has a warranty, you can kiss it good bye.

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Old 10-29-2010, 09:51 PM   #32
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the jk doesn't have a "Motor", nor does the tj.....they have engines. there is a distinct difference in a motor and an engine. facts are facts the "Minivan" ENGINE outperforms the tried and true 4.0
I never had the 4.0 in a wrangler, but I did have it in a 2000 cherokee and it kicked the snot out of the "engine" in my current 2011 rubi in terms of actual descernable from the drivers seat power...I know the jk engine is rated higher hp and torgue, but this 2011 just doesn't GO remotely as well as that 4.0 did.

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I never had the 4.0 in a wrangler, but I did have it in a 2000 cherokee and it kicked the snot out of the "engine" in my current 2011 rubi in terms of actual descernable from the drivers seat power...I know the jk engine is rated higher hp and torgue, but this 2011 just doesn't GO remotely as well as that 4.0 did.
You cant compare a 4.0 in a cherokee to a 3.8 in a wrangler. They are totally different in weight, gearing, ground clearance, and wind resistance and emissions.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:38 PM   #34
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Personally I love the look of a stock JK more than any other stock model Jeep. I have nothing to add to the other part of the discussion here except I adore my mine.
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Dude, think about what your saying! If you want a plush ride go buy an Escalade. Don't get rid of the TJ. JK's suck mechanical wise. The 4.0 is far superior than that V6 minivan motor, JK transmission blow chunks. And because of the newer body style they are too fat for tight trails. Don't be like the other SHEEP.I could build a far better stereo than you could ever get in a JK minus the stigma of owning a soccer mom jeep.
it has yet to be seen if the 4.0 is superior to the 3.8, many 3.8 have gone 200000 plus miles, albeit in minivans. it has yet to be determined how they will fair in wranglers, but indications are good that it will match or exceed the 4.0s in lifespan.
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Charts, graphs, whatever...I love that term someone used:" SeatPower". What does it "feel" like when you are on a highway and start climbing a grade...or do numerous switchbacks with a lot of downshifting and speed changes.
Cherokee/Wrangler same 4.0 but totally different in "seatpower"...I know as MD tax was based on curb weight! I don't want an auto in the mountains...Cherokee comfy, but "feel" better with the 5-speed.
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I had an '03 Rubicon, and now I have a '10 Rubicon. Did alot of off-roading with the '03 out in the Olympic National Forrest (Washington) and loved it. Haven't been offroad in the '10 yet...but I will say the highway manners of the JK is lightyears ahead of the TJ. Crazy shifting in the TJ just to maintain highway speed limits, JK has no problems. I'm sure it's offroad abilities are comparable.
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3.8 vs 4.0

just like the tried and true Chevrolet 350, the 4.0 was removed for 1 reason....."obsolete"
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:32 PM   #39
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If your driving through some deep water then keep the tj. If your trail riding id say tj. Beach riding jk. Rockrawlinb 4 door jk. The wb is good but I basically know nothing because I'm new but that's my opion.
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I had a 97 TJ and this last summer I bought an 07 Rubicon! I love them both! The JK is a blast and I wouldn't trade it for anything!
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If your driving through some deep water then keep the tj. If your trail riding id say tj. Beach riding jk. Rockrawlinb 4 door jk. The wb is good but I basically know nothing because I'm new but that's my opion.
Please explain that system?
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Talking Thanks for the awesome responses!!

To InfernoGirl....Thanks for the response; I was not aware that TJ lockers were 'air' and that JK's are 'electric'...Is this true? Is there any advantage or disadvantage to either system? My TJ Rubi has, as a factory option, a 6-CD 7-speaker stereo system that rocks pretty good, so I think I'm covered there. I really do love this Jeep; it seems closer to a 'pure' Jeep than a JK (Oh crappers I can hear the JK owners already!) but those JK Rubi's really do look sweet....I used to have a limited-edition '86 CJ and I feel the TJ is much better in just about every area, hence my interest in the JK. Thanks to all that responded; I still think I need more time to think this thing thru.
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Old 10-31-2010, 06:58 PM   #43
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If your driving through some deep water then keep the tj. If your trail riding id say tj. Beach riding jk. Rockrawlinb 4 door jk. The wb is good but I basically know nothing because I'm new but that's my opion.
Yeah, that's not true, shorter wheelbase is better for all offroading.
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Yeah, that's not true, shorter wheelbase is better for all offroading.
Shorter wheelbase is better for (very tight canyon trail turns) and thats all !!

the only other thing that enters IN the off-road ability, of the vehicle is :

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Personally, I'd keep the TJ... I don't like the dumbo ears on the JK's, but that's just me. .
help me out here, what are dumbo ears on a JK?
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hes refering to the fenders, i acually think they are the best looking fenders ever put on a jeep!!!
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To InfernoGirl....Thanks for the response; I was not aware that TJ lockers were 'air' and that JK's are 'electric'...Is this true? Is there any advantage or disadvantage to either system? My TJ Rubi has, as a factory option, a 6-CD 7-speaker stereo system that rocks pretty good, so I think I'm covered there. I really do love this Jeep; it seems closer to a 'pure' Jeep than a JK (Oh crappers I can hear the JK owners already!) but those JK Rubi's really do look sweet....I used to have a limited-edition '86 CJ and I feel the TJ is much better in just about every area, hence my interest in the JK. Thanks to all that responded; I still think I need more time to think this thing thru.
How is your jeep more pure? You have round headlights, a/c, cd players, decent interior, optional power windows and locks. Sounds to me like a jk and tj arent that much different afterall.
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hes refering to the fenders, i acually think they are the best looking fenders ever put on a jeep!!!
Not only that but also allow for a much bigger tire.
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Yeah, that's not true, shorter wheelbase is better for all offroading.
Are you including hill climbing in you assertion?
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: ... and am actually thinking of selling my TJ Rubi and springing for a new JK Rubicon.
There is only one thing to do - buy the JK and keep the TJ.
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If your TJ is paid off, I would keep it. Think of the mods you could buy with the price difference between your TJ and a JK. Plus, if you mod the JK and it has a warranty, you can kiss it good bye.
not true

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Are you including hill climbing in you assertion?
I'm including hills that I would climb in my assertion. Anything else is for the birds. And let's face it, there aren't too many jeep owners, TJ or JK, that make a habit out of seeing how steep a hill they can climb on the weekends. Flipping end over end backwards isn't on anybodies top ten to do list. So unless your straddling a very deep and very short mudhole, then long wheelbases suck.
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How is your jeep more pure? You have round headlights, a/c, cd players, decent interior, optional power windows and locks. Sounds to me like a jk and tj arent that much different afterall.
Optional power windows? Did I miss something? Because I definitely don't consider that bogus power window kit from quadratec as an option, and I know they don't put power windows in a TJ from the factory.
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I'm including hills that I would climb in my assertion. Anything else is for the birds. And let's face it, there aren't too many jeep owners, TJ or JK, that make a habit out of seeing how steep a hill they can climb on the weekends. Flipping end over end backwards isn't on anybodies top ten to do list. So unless your straddling a very deep and very short mudhole, then long wheelbases suck.
Wow do you even own a jeep? A wrangler is one of the most stable vehicles off road, period. Do you realize how steep something would have to be to go end over end? And a jk is about 6 inches longer than a tj, so that argument easily goes right out the window.
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I'm including hills that I would climb in my assertion. Anything else is for the birds. And let's face it, there aren't too many jeep owners, TJ or JK, that make a habit out of seeing how steep a hill they can climb on the weekends. Flipping end over end backwards isn't on anybodies top ten to do list. So unless your straddling a very deep and very short mudhole, then long wheelbases suck.
Wrong again, stability and straddling are only a couple of obvious advantages with a longer wheel base.
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I'm including hills that I would climb in my assertion. Anything else is for the birds. And let's face it, there aren't too many jeep owners, TJ or JK, that make a habit out of seeing how steep a hill they can climb on the weekends. Flipping end over end backwards isn't on anybodies top ten to do list. So unless your straddling a very deep and very short mudhole, then long wheelbases suck.
Wrong again, stability and straddling are only a couple of obvious advantages to a longer wheel base.
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I can speak to this as I have owned both a 2003 TJ Rubicon and a 2008 JK Rubicon and can say the 2008 for me was nothing but issues (transmission, motor, brakes, body noises, rust from no primer under paint etc etc..) and the body metal is flimsy in comparison to TJ body panels (if anyone disagrees just push on the doorhandle of each and see for yourself)... The 2003 had the battery replaced in 5 years I owned it, no other issues ever ever. The 2008 drives better on the road. If you want offroad and reliability keep your TJ. If you want to drive on pavement all the time and warranty you will no doubt need... get a JK... I sold my JK and will be going back to a TJ FYI...
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there is only one thing to do - buy the jk and keep the tj.

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I have a mint '06 TJ Rubicon which I love! But lately I have been eyeballing those new JK's and am actually thinking of selling my TJ Rubi and springing for a new JK Rubicon. I would like to hear from owners who know both rigs and have opinions of their comparisons. My JK Rubicon would be a short wheelbase (2-door), manual trans, soft-top half-door model RUBICON ONLY. All replies encouraged, thanks in advance!
yes ,dump it ,the JK is better.
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There is only one thing to do - buy the JK and keep the TJ.
couldn't agree with you more....then we'll all be satisfied

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