Mine has the navi with all the bells and whistles. I totally agree about the clutter/theft issues. It is worth the upgrade price on the new car, me thinks mine was 1200 on the sticker. Never batted an eye on it. Love using it. I have used most of the features now. Got the hard drive almost filled up now. Went to maine last weekend with a bunch of boy scouts in the car. They played the music on the hard drive most of the trip. Can't say enough good about it. Super feature.