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Old 06-21-2012, 08:48 AM   #31
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:19 PM   #33
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Well - the "new" TIPM has arrived - however, once installed, all the dashlights come on and stay on AND the AC won't work. The dealership is contacting Chrysler for further guidance on what to do. I have no clue what is going on at the moment. Chrysler, who was working with me very nicely along this, uh, nightmare - NOW - they won't return my calls. I have a case number, case manager, etc. - they are NOT returning my calls. The case manager VM is clear, I will call you by the end of the business day today. No call, nothing. What the heck?
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:56 PM   #34
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Im reading all these threads about the same problem...I had the same thing going on...So I went out and disconnected the TIPM...cleaned the connections and reassembled with dielectric grease to the positive and ground areas... Fired it up and it ran fine no issuses so far.. Bad connections... Bad design... especially for a Jeep... Jeeps get dirty right...LMAO
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:35 PM   #35
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After several friendly rounds with Chrysler, the ETA on the TIPM was reduced from a month to two weeks. Will believe it when I drive it out of the shop.

Still working out the details on the "loaner."
Wrangler into shop - 6/9
Wrangler out of shop - 7/11 with new TIPM

RPITA - all is well so far -Chrysler is sending a $710 check for the cost of a rental car. That's more than the cost of the repair

Good luck to all with similar problems.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:19 PM   #36
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I am joining the TIPM party

After experiencing some starting problems, I bought a new battery...two months later would not start it...shop said loose battery cable...would not start next day...shop said new starter...would not start next day...shop said I needed my keys flashed...next day, finally at the dealer, I am told it is in need of a TIPM. I might get the part in a week. My first and last Chrysler!
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Just got mine out of the shop after waiting 2.5 weeks. They first installed the TIPM and found that it also took out the ECU. No charge for the ECU but set me back $566 for the TIPM. 12 month 12K warranty. Gald to get it back, riding the Harley in rain most days and the fun was wearing off.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:36 PM   #38
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Found this while browsing a Dodge forum - "TIPM module memory can be reflashed but this can only be done a maximum of 5 times. The TIPM module will be rendered inoperative on the sixth attempt and must be replaced."

Maybe it will help, maybe it's nothing.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:35 PM   #39
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Tipm?

2008 Jeep Wrangler X 54,000 m. I get into the Jeep and close the door, the horn starts blaring, lights are flashing, wipers turn on, washer fluid spraying. A/c was on but nothing blowing. Disconnected the battery. Stopped for a min. Rocked the Jeep, happened again. Drove it home, hit the railroad tracks, happened again! Took it to the dealer today and they can't find an issue. WTH? Any advice on this is greatly appreciated. I feel like I'm going to get the runaround because I'm a female. Why isn't this a recall?
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SAME HERE! I opened the drivers door to run out somewhere and the horn, wipers, wiper fluid all went off.. I quickly disconnected the battery and unplugged the horn but now Im stuck.. You say there's a way to unplug the TIPM to reset it possibly??
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Try disconnecting the battery, then unplugging the TIPM connections/fuses one at a time, spray both sides with electrical cleaner, then coat with dialectic grease and plug back together.
When done, reconnect the battery and try it out. Worth a shot at least.

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Old 07-27-2013, 06:08 AM   #42
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None of that will work. If it's a faulty TIPM, it needs to be replaced. It's something to do with connections between the boards in the TIPM itself, that's why tapping on it or other impacts causes it to freak out.

Contact Chrysler corp and get a rep involved, bitch and complain, become a pain in their butts and you'll get action. I got it replaced and all those symptoms have gone away and my Chrysler rep got it all reimbursed (except $100).
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I when I got my last oil change, I asked them to deactivate them. They said they couldn't. However, I saw them quietly replacing them without charging me.

Now, if they could just fix the damn clock......
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The reason it's hard to fix is because the problem isn't with the TIPM. It's a component that runs through that module, such as the blower motor switch. A fault component will cause the TIPM to malfunction. But you have to find that part. Try turning you blower fan to the off or on position when turning your vehicle off. See which position initiates the malfunction. P.S. it will never be a recall because its not a safety concern. Recalls only involve safety failures, i.e. seatbelts, headlamps, things catching on fire ect.....
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rockyman, it IS the TIPM. There is no other component causing this. I know this because this happened to me and replacing the TIPM was the fix. Even though there is no recall on the TIPM, contact a Chrysler rep and they will help you with it. Because the amount of issues with the TIPM on 2007-2009 models, they can help, the problem is you really have to complain and complain a lot.
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SAME HERE! I opened the drivers door to run out somewhere and the horn, wipers, wiper fluid all went off.. I quickly disconnected the battery and unplugged the horn but now Im stuck.. You say there's a way to unplug the TIPM to reset it possibly??
I have a 2007 jeep wrangled unlimited x same exact shit happening to me going in Monday august 19 . Report to nhtsa also. Will be calling Chrysler today as well. Already replaced battery. Doesn't seem to matter if there is a key in the ignition or not .anything will trigger it. A door opening. Or just driving down the fricken road ..
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Old 08-16-2013, 01:07 PM   #47
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Ok - I got the diagnosis. It's the TIPM and they are one-month back ordered. Haha. They tell me it is a safety issue. But they offered to return the vehicle to me while we wait for the TIPM. haha. All I can do is laugh right now.
If they said its a safety issue contact nhtsa for the rest of us. They Chrysler will have to be made to do a recall. This is ridiculous.
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Opps I dropped a match in the thing and it burned to the ground!
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rockyman, it IS the TIPM. There is no other component causing this. I know this because this happened to me and replacing the TIPM was the fix. Even though there is no recall on the TIPM, contact a Chrysler rep and they will help you with it. Because the amount of issues with the TIPM on 2007-2009 models, they can help, the problem is you really have to complain and complain a lot.
So I have to laugh I literally just got off the phone with a rep. They gave me a case number but they have had no such complaints like this. Really Chrysler this is how you are going to handle this problem. By ignoring it. Bullshit. I own 5 jeeps you just pissed off the wrong person. I will make my voice be heard
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Opps I dropped a match in the thing and it burned to the ground!
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I have a 2012 JKUR. Third time in the shop and they believe it is the TIPM causing my problems.

My history:

-Last year pulling out of a parking lot my ESC activated causing the Jeep to stutter/stall and brake to one side. After turning the Jeep off and on the problem went away. The dealership could not find a problem.

-A few months ago while testing my e-lockers I had problems with the rear locker light not turning off right away. On another outing it took 45 minutes for it to disengage. The dealer got it stuck and could not disengage the locker at all. They said it was physically jammed. They ended up replacing the rear locker.

- After the e locker issue, my e-disconnect light would come on and start flashing randomly after driving on bumpy roads. Then my ESC light would turn off and on. Next my ABS, Brake, ESC e-disconnect, and downhill assist lights would flash off and on at the same time. I notice that my GPS, which was plugged into the power invertor, was turning off and on with the lights. One time my radio clock reset itself. Another time after one of these incidences, my trip computer went crazy and stated I was getting 138 MPG. My ESC light then would turn on and stay on until turning the Jeep off and on.

Bumpy roads would set this problem off, but the bumps themselves would not cause the lights to come on. They seem to come off and on random and the power converter seems to mostly switch on and off with the lights.

I had the JK into the dealer 3 times . They are seeing a number of error codes generated. The first time they thought it was a control module for the dash lights. The second time they called Chrysler. They told them to replace the brake sensor. The third time they said it might be the TIPM. They plan on replacing the TIMP on Monday.

I am wondering if this problem caused my rear locker damage. I hope it fixes the other problems. I can work on my own Jeep, but Iím starting to wonder if I should buy a life time warranty before I canít just for the part cost and time. I have 22K on the JKU so far.
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So I have to laugh I literally just got off the phone with a rep. They gave me a case number but they have had no such complaints like this. Really Chrysler this is how you are going to handle this problem. By ignoring it. Bullshit. I own 5 jeeps you just pissed off the wrong person. I will make my voice be heard
Ok so far they have called me four times this am water pump is leaking. Yeah ok I will fix it myself. They said it looks like light on dash is def coming on from clockspring recall. What fricken light. Now they just called and said they found the horn was blowing because the horn pad was stripped out and thats another 135.00.
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Ok so far they have called me four times this am water pump is leaking. Yeah ok I will fix it myself. They said it looks like light on dash is def coming on from clockspring recall. What fricken light. Now they just called and said they found the horn was blowing because the horn pad was stripped out and thats another 135.00.
Picked her up today said she was fixed. Didn't hear the horn. Or see wipers go off. The gas light came on and went to fill her up.and gas came spewing back at me. No matter what way I put that nozzle in .it came back out so I turned around went back to stealership and she sits again for another night until they figure out whatever they screwed up on her. Not even the thing I took her in for. Just a stupid recall
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The tipm issue extends to other jeep products our 2011 Grand Cherokee starter and fuel pump are acting up, and have been traced to the tipm.
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Picked her up today said she was fixed. Didn't hear the horn. Or see wipers go off. The gas light came on and went to fill her up.and gas came spewing back at me. No matter what way I put that nozzle in .it came back out so I turned around went back to stealership and she sits again for another night until they figure out whatever they screwed up on her. Not even the thing I took her in for. Just a stupid recall
Picked jeep up again this evenin. Horn went off. Will take her back first thing in the morning
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Picked jeep up again this evenin. Horn went off. Will take her back first thing in the morning
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I have a 2012 JKUR. Third time in the shop and they believe it is the TIPM causing my problems.

My history:

-Last year pulling out of a parking lot my ESC activated causing the Jeep to stutter/stall and brake to one side. After turning the Jeep off and on the problem went away. The dealership could not find a problem.

-A few months ago while testing my e-lockers I had problems with the rear locker light not turning off right away. On another outing it took 45 minutes for it to disengage. The dealer got it stuck and could not disengage the locker at all. They said it was physically jammed. They ended up replacing the rear locker.

- After the e locker issue, my e-disconnect light would come on and start flashing randomly after driving on bumpy roads. Then my ESC light would turn off and on. Next my ABS, Brake, ESC e-disconnect, and downhill assist lights would flash off and on at the same time. I notice that my GPS, which was plugged into the power invertor, was turning off and on with the lights. One time my radio clock reset itself. Another time after one of these incidences, my trip computer went crazy and stated I was getting 138 MPG. My ESC light then would turn on and stay on until turning the Jeep off and on.

Bumpy roads would set this problem off, but the bumps themselves would not cause the lights to come on. They seem to come off and on random and the power converter seems to mostly switch on and off with the lights.

I had the JK into the dealer 3 times . They are seeing a number of error codes generated. The first time they thought it was a control module for the dash lights. The second time they called Chrysler. They told them to replace the brake sensor. The third time they said it might be the TIPM. They plan on replacing the TIMP on Monday.

I am wondering if this problem caused my rear locker damage. I hope it fixes the other problems. I can work on my own Jeep, but Iím starting to wonder if I should buy a life time warranty before I canít just for the part cost and time. I have 22K on the JKU so far.
They replaced my TIPM. I just got back from a short test drive and so far so good. I will do more extensive testing this weekend. I was told I got one of the newer TIPM models. Hopefully this solves the issues.The dealer has been very good about trying to get it fixed so hats off to them.
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Well, I tested out my Jeep on 4x4 roads this weekend and everything is working great. So it looks like it was a TIPM failure causing the problem.
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Wow...
So after having jeep towed in they claimed it was starter. Wait time on starter was a week since it was labor day weekend. Brought damn jeep home fixed ourselves and what do u know fricken jeep is back to blowing the damn horn all over again. There is no warranty on this jeep.and I am so fed up I am about ready to just sell it .
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I have to bring mine into dealer this week while under warranty. Several weeks ago I was leaving for work and after I started my jeep no dash lights came on and I couldn't put it into gear. I flipped the headlights on and off and everything came on and I haven't had an issue since, really weird.

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