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Old 06-01-2012, 12:53 PM   #1
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Sick of the crappy stock soft top

Takes the wife and I ten minutes and we get filthy in the process. I just got soaked again today and I'm done.

Whats out there that is quick and keeps the interior dry? I have the unlimited model.

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Old 06-01-2012, 12:56 PM   #2
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maybe get an emeergency top to put over your jeep when parked...

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Old 06-01-2012, 12:57 PM   #3
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It takes me 5 minutes by myself and I could do it wearing white. My suggestion is a Toyota FJ.
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Takes the wife and I ten minutes and we get filthy in the process. I just got soaked again today and I'm done.

Whats out there that is quick and keeps the interior dry? I have the unlimited model.
Is that 10 minutes with both of you putting it up together? And is that from all the way down or just the sun rider folded back.

In general I am keeping the 3 rear windows out of mine (rain or no rain). If it looks like rain could happen I have just the sun rider folded back. If it starts to rain it takes less than 60 seconds to put it up by myself and less than that if someone is with me. From completely down it is still only maybe 2 minutes total. But again I'm not messing with the rear windows.
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It takes me 5 minutes by myself and I could do it wearing white. My suggestion is a Toyota FJ.


It's really not a problem. Five to maybe 10 minutes. And I don't get dirty either. Not quite sure why the OP is having a problem.
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I only get dirty if the top is covered with crap when I take it down. But isn't that to be expected?
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:30 PM   #7
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I have a 4 door hardtop and i think i am going to get Best top Trektop NX to go along with the hardtop. You might check that out. I think there is a long delivery wait for them though.
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look at some utube vids and practice a few times. Should not take that long or get you dirty. Only had mine a week and can do it alone in 5 minutes and stay clean. Maybe the Freedom Top is best for you?
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:22 PM   #9
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If messing with windows, I could see time running longer. I run without windows rain or no rain as someone else said.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:25 PM   #10
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Is that 10 minutes with both of you putting it up together? And is that from all the way down or just the sun rider folded back.

In general I am keeping the 3 rear windows out of mine (rain or no rain). If it looks like rain could happen I have just the sun rider folded back. If it starts to rain it takes less than 60 seconds to put it up by myself and less than that if someone is with me. From completely down it is still only maybe 2 minutes total. But again I'm not messing with the rear windows.
Its all the way down.

When your Jeep starts to age in a high salt environment the zipper turns to shit and it takes much longer to get the rear window out.

The sun also dries out the hard rubber flaps you slide under the top and they lose their flexibility which also causes filthy hands and broken fingernails.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:32 PM   #11
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Here's my solution, take of the top permanently then you'll always be too hot, too wet, too covered in dirt/mud to care. Oh and you'll know what to expect when driving your jeep.
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power wash it good, then use zipper ease on the zippers and... only remove them when you abolutely have to. We used to take the entire soft top off with the windows still in it and fold it up rather then trying to take the windows in and out. Went from 10 minutes to 2 minutes and saved so much trouble...
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:00 PM   #13
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power wash it good, then use zipper ease on the zippers and... only remove them when you abolutely have to. We used to take the entire soft top off with the windows still in it and fold it up rather then trying to take the windows in and out. Went from 10 minutes to 2 minutes and saved so much trouble...
Did that cause any creasing problems in the window?
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It's really not a problem. Five to maybe 10 minutes. And I don't get dirty either. Not quite sure why the OP is having a problem.

I know, right? Ten minutes with two people? Are they midgets or something? No way. Now way.

And dirty? From what? Yeah, I would get my pants dirty at first, but that was from the tons of tire wet I put on my tires.

Just think, this is the type of guy who will go around to everyone he knows and spout off about how Jeeps suck, or the soft tops suck, when in reality, it's some sort of problem with him.

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Now that I think about it, one time it took me longer than two minutes to put up the top and that is when I took off the plastic sub frame it hooks onto. That doesn't come off anymore lol
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:12 PM   #15
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Its all the way down.

When your Jeep starts to age in a high salt environment the zipper turns to shit and it takes much longer to get the rear window out.

The sun also dries out the hard rubber flaps you slide under the top and they lose their flexibility which also causes filthy hands and broken fingernails.

So, because you didn't properly maintain your zippers and top it's automatically the Jeep's fault, right?

Gotta love the new American way, "It's not my fault!11!!!"
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I know, right? Ten minutes with two people? Are they midgets or something? No way. Now way.

And dirty? From what? Yeah, I would get my pants dirty at first, but that was from the tons of tire wet I put on my tires.

Just think, this is the type of guy who will go around to everyone he knows and spout off about how Jeeps suck, or the soft tops suck, when in reality, it's some sort of problem with him.

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Now that I think about it, one time it took me longer than two minutes to put up the top and that is when I took off the plastic sub frame it hooks onto. That doesn't come off anymore lol
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So, because you didn't properly maintain your zippers and top it's automatically the Jeep's fault, right?

Gotta love the new American way, "It's not my fault!11!!!"
Why are you acting like an asshole? The top is five years old. Shit falls apart. I just want to know if there is an easier top to live with.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:57 PM   #17
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yeh old forum bums are impossible to talk to. People need to lighten up and stop being a$$ holes. In general I feel like all the soft tops that are made are ehh, even the after market ones. My buddy bought a bestop trecktop. I like the look of it but it's a pain to initially put on. We haven't taken it off since installation. crap i just realized this is the JK forum. Well I'm assuming the tops don't change much. I hear lots of people in florida run these:

Amazon.com: Bestop 81040-09 Charcoal All Weather Trail Cover: Automotive

or something similar. It's not to be used while driving though, just used to quickly cover the jeep in a random down pour then take it off and go back to life haha. You could aslo run safari tops which only act as a roof with no windows. Some people like that all summer, water will still come in the sides. As for actual softtops, they don't really differ that much from what I've seen sorry :/ I mean they have frameless ones

Amazon.com: Rampage 109517 Trail Top - Frameless/Bowless TJ: Automotive

but it's still an unzip, fold down process. I don't see the benefit of new softtops besides it being newer.
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Did that cause any creasing problems in the window?
In general, yes it will. I did the same with my old Jeep. Roll up the rear window and just fold the top down with the side windows still in.
But, like sevesservices, I had an older YJ. My windows wre already scratched up pretty bad before I started doing that.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:24 PM   #19
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Takes the wife and I ten minutes and we get filthy in the process. I just got soaked again today and I'm done.

Whats out there that is quick and keeps the interior dry? I have the unlimited model.
If your soft top is really in poor condition, then just buy a replacement. It clearly sounds like yours has outlived its usefulness.

Salt is tough on cars and soft tops. I've got a buddy who bought a 911 Carrera from a Florida couple who lived on the coast. Long story short, at only 18 months old and less than 10,000 miles, the top mechanism had to be gutted and replaced because it was parked out in salt too often. He had a hell of a time getting them to warranty it.

I have an unlimited and I can do it by myself in less than 5 minutes, including bringing the windows out from inside the house. When I had a regular TJ, I could literally do it all in 2 minutes.
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I just went out and farted around with the top, now the zipper is stuck on the lower right side and the rear window won't come off.

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If your soft top is really in poor condition, then just buy a replacement. It clearly sounds like yours has outlived its usefulness.

Salt is tough on cars and soft tops. I've got a buddy who bought a 911 Carrera from a Florida couple who lived on the coast. Long story short, at only 18 months old and less than 10,000 miles, the top mechanism had to be gutted and replaced because it was parked out in salt too often. He had a hell of a time getting them to warranty it.

I have an unlimited and I can do it by myself in less than 5 minutes, including bringing the windows out from inside the house. When I had a regular TJ, I could literally do it all in 2 minutes.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:24 PM   #22
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Just a thought - maybe zipper wax would help with that part of your problem? I'm a diver & use it on my dry suit to keep my expensive zipper working smoothly. A quick search online & I see they sell similar zipper wax for other purposes, including boat canvases. I'm not sure if it would help with a zipper that's already having problems, but figured I'd offer the suggestion. (I'm a total jeep newbie, so it's rare I even have a suggestion I can offer on this forum. Figured I'd take advantage of the opportunity...)
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I got mopar zipper lubricant, and it helped quite a bit. The zippers move faster, and they don't get stuck (anymore). I got it from quadratec for less than $10
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Tops are usually recommended to be changed every 5 years unless that's changed with the new ones. TBH, I haven't read an owners manual since I bought my TJ back in '01.

But I still don't really understand how it's taking you so long to put the top up. I'm 5'4" and I do it by myself in under 5 minutes when it's fully folded down. (Only tricky part for me is the initial lift b/c between my height and the lift on the Jeep, it's a bit of a reach for me.) If you're having that much trouble the top is either completely trashed, and/or you're doing something wrong.

I would guess maybe consider one of the bowless tops, Like a Trektop. But I'm not sure if they fold any faster. I personally prefer the stock ones b/c they fold up and down so quick....

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