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Old 12-11-2011, 03:15 PM   #1
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Skids Installed Finally

Installed my RockHard4x4 skids yesterday. The install was a little cumbersome wielding the steel plates around by myself until I cold get them positioned correctly. I used my motorcycle lift to hold the gas tank skid in place while I bolted it on.

I'm still thinking about replacing my stock Evap Skid with something more stout, but here are my engine, transfer case, and gas tank skids installed.
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are they as stout as they look. how was the install.

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Old 12-11-2011, 06:28 PM   #3
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How do you handle fluid changes with all that on there?
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Did you notice any sagging with all the added weight? How much do you think all the skids weighed?
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to the sagging or weight?
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rock hard is a local company about 20 min away from were i live.was thinking about there skid plates and frnt and rear bumper.
I've heard their stuff's pretty stout made for serious off roading not just looks. Let me know how you like it. Thanks
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Old 12-12-2011, 08:05 AM   #9
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are they as stout as they look. how was the install.
Yes they are as stout as they look. Everything is 3/16" steel plate and they came powder coated. The install was easy if you can find a way to keep the skids in place while you bolt them in. Everything was a bolt in operation using factory holes except for 3 places that I had to use a 3/8" drill on the rear part of the gas tank skid plate. If you do this install on a 2 door JK, you only need to drill 2 holes instead of 3 for the gas tank skid.

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How do you handle fluid changes with all that on there?
There is an opening in the engine skid under the oil drain plug to change the oil (top photo). The transmission is an auto and according to Chrysler, the fluid is lifetime. I doubt that I'd go a lifetime without changing it, but I have a dipstick that I can use to siphon the fluid out if necessary. Worst case, I'd have to remove a skid or two, but that shouldn't happen very often.

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Did you notice any sagging with all the added weight? How much do you think all the skids weighed?
I have a 3.5" lift and if I did get any sagging, I didn't notice it because I had more than 3.5" of lift when the suspension was installed. A nice thing about getting a quality lift is that you get what you pay for. I don't have a budget lift. I have a complete suspension under my Jeep that replaced the stock track bars, tie rod, springs, drag link, shocks, and all of the control arms.

With that said, I'm sure that it probably will sag. I put the 3.5" lift on it instead of the 2.5" lift because I knew that I was adding front and rear steel bumpers, a winch, and the skids. Even if I do get sagging, I still have plenty of clearance to run my 35" tires. I'm sure my wife hopes that it will sag to make it easier for her to get in and out of it.

As far as skid weight, I'm not sure. If I had to guess, I'd say probably about 150-200 pounds. At least that is what my sore body is telling me after I installed them over the weekend. I'll know the weight for sure later today and I can post my findings when I get the info.
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Did you notice any sagging with all the added weight? How much do you think all the skids weighed?
Since I was guessing on the skid weight that I posted earlier, I called RockHard4x4 to ask the question. I was told that the 3 skids add about 140 pounds.
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Heh Heh, you probably didn't see my previous post on my JKUR weight, but

One of the reasons my jeep weighs 4945 lbs is because of ROCKHARD skids/cages, they make Heavy Duty stuff-



My jeep is ready for a minimum thermonuclear attack, also works off-road !

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Jimbox, In your opinion do the Rockhards cause any concern for excess heat buid-up for the tranny, engine oil, etc, etc? I currently live in the desert heat, but in a few years will be wheeling Colorado so the heat concern at least for now may, or may not be an issue for me using these. Thx
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Yeah, I live in the desert also, but I didn't get the Rockhard tranny skid--I still use the stocker--

If you have an aux cooler, you shouldn't have trouble under normal conditions, but you should have a way of monitoring your tranny temps-


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Jimbox, In your opinion do the Rockhards cause any concern for excess heat buid-up for the tranny, engine oil, etc, etc? I currently live in the desert heat, but in a few years will be wheeling Colorado so the heat concern at least for now may, or may not be an issue for me using these. Thx
There are several plugin monitors available, but I don't know which ones, I use two tranny temp guages synch'd in the main cooler lines--

The aux coolers (B & M) are usually about $75 bucks and simple to install, I've got two in line and my auto temp never exceeds 200° F, under hill climbs in 215F-desert air-





I'd advise at least the radiator mounted aux cooler--google --JK aux cooler--

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Thanks for the quick response Jimbox! Great idea on the cooler and gauge.
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Operating temperatures are something that I wondered about. I only have the stock temp guage for monitoring the engine. I have the aux auto tranny cooler, but I don't know if that is adequate or not to keep the transmission temps down. I guess I'll find out in the Texas heat next summer.
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You probably have the "Hot OIL" alarm when the auto temp gets over 250° F--so you know what to do when that happens !


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Operating temperatures are something that I wondered about. I only have the stock temp guage for monitoring the engine. I have the aux auto tranny cooler, but I don't know if that is adequate or not to keep the transmission temps down. I guess I'll find out in the Texas heat next summer.
The best op temp for the 42rle is 180° F and the flash point for ATF-4 is 374° F and the auto gets to 300°F easy--without an aux cooler !!--so

Be careful and use 4lo more than needed, when off-road, especially when climbing, if that bothers you, just put the tranny in "D"-when in 4lo--for cruising up to about 18 mph-

If you're driving off-road on a lotta fairly level grounf--goto 4hi !

Stay away from sand, without an aux cooler !

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