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Old 10-26-2010, 05:49 PM   #1
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Snorkel Necessary????

So this past weekend I met up with a group of guys that I met to do some wheeling. They all drove JK's and I was the only one without a snorkel. They all said that I needed one pretty badly.

While I don't have anything against the snorkel, I have other things that I want to do to my jeep first. My question is, is having a snorkel on a jk really that necessary. I have heard many people say that because of how the air intake is water can bounce off the hood and go straight in. While this makes sence to me, I have gotten water in my air box, didn't the TJ's have the same style air box. I haven't heard alot of horror stories about the TJ.

And while doing some looking around online I heard alot of stories from people saying they have seen JK's hydrolock in low water at low speeds, but I haven't heard anyone say that they have done it themselves.

So my question is, what do you think?

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Let me guess, were you wheeling the pine barrens? I wouldn't take anything in there without a snorkel and extended breather tubes.

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Yep in the pines. I raised my breather the second week I had it. Had water flowing through (where my doors should have been) a week after that.
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I've heard lots of horror stories on the forums and trails about hydrolocking JK's, and only seen one. Seen a few sputter from light splashes, too. The OEM airbox is pretty poorly sealed- if you seal up the holes in the bottom, it makes a big difference. Also, adding a splash shield (I ran a piece of plastic off of an old kitchen spatula!) helps. But I ultimately went with a snorkel. Because one popped motor costs a WHOLE lot more than the snorkel! Mark W.
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I thought the holes in the bottom allowed the rain water to drain out.
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I thought the holes in the bottom allowed the rain water to drain out.
I normally wouldnt argue with you mark but crocodile dundee has a point.
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Snorkels look sweet to which is a bonus and gets you hot girlfriends. Just don't drive into a lake submerge your jeep and lose it the locnus monster
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Old 10-27-2010, 01:02 AM   #8
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I too have been considering a snorkel. Any specific ones you guys recommend?
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Snorkels look sweet to which is a bonus and gets you hot girlfriends. Just don't drive into a lake submerge your jeep and lose it the locnus monster
Snorkels get you hot girlfriends? Haha that's a new selling point for snorkels that I don't think I've ever heard... And not being a dick but it's the loch ness monster bud... That was just so horrible I couldn't let it slide. But thanks for the snorkel plusses!
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Snorkels get you hot girlfriends? Haha that's a new selling point for snorkels that I don't think I've ever heard... And not being a dick but it's the loch ness monster bud... That was just so horrible I couldn't let it slide. But thanks for the snorkel plusses!
Obviously you've never met Chadwick.
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Obviously you've never met Chadwick.
Nah but I've been regaled with stories of his misadventures...

However, I sure wish I had been there...
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I've heard ofs Chad wick. What's the big deal with that guy? Back on subject snorkel is the next thing on my list.
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It took 10 post to mention Chadwick? I am disappointed
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I thought the holes in the bottom allowed the rain water to drain out.
But that which lets water out, also lets it in

If your main concern is submergence, sealing these up is a good idea. After talking for some time with Kenny at River Raider, he recommended doing this, with or without his snorkel. I saw the logic, and did it. Lately, after some rather gnarly rains, I've not yet found more than MILD condensation under the filter, and none above. I did the same in the wifey's JK, without a snorkel, and same result.

Now, after hitting the mud HARD at Rausch back in June, my sealed airbox had ZERO mud in it, and only a BIT of dirt. Hers had mud splashed all over the air filter (thankfully, none apparent on the other side- take that, K&N haters! ), which was pre-sealing, by the way. So I like my sealed airboxes Mark W.
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What did you use to seal it?
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Sillicone goop. Picked it up at Autozone. Forget what the package looked like. It comes out silver, and works like a charm Mark W.
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I thought the holes in the bottom allowed the rain water to drain out.
if it's sealed up, you don't really have to worry about rain water getting in anymore. Therefore, no need to have it drain out.
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I am not worried so much about submerging my jeep up to the airbox. If that happens I have other issues. I am more worried about water splashing into the intake.

By the way. If you seal those holes at the bottom of your airbox, when water does splash in it won't go anywhere. If you go splash enough in you are going to fill you airbox up with water. No thank you.
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I've never heard of Chadwick...


Please someone fill me in.
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LOL....I was gonna ask that too. I'm betting he has a good snorkle story. LOL
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I am not worried so much about submerging my jeep up to the airbox. If that happens I have other issues. I am more worried about water splashing into the intake.

By the way. If you seal those holes at the bottom of your airbox, when water does splash in it won't go anywhere. If you go splash enough in you are going to fill you airbox up with water. No thank you.
If you're only worried about splashes, a snorkel is overkill. They're for people who are submerging their vehicles. For splash worries, as I mentioned in my first post, make a splash shield.

However, if the amount of water you're splashing up worries you about flooding your airbox, a snorkel may be a wise investment. Sealing it is, as I've said, more for fording and suchlike. Kenny still said it's not a bad idea to seal it, as the engine bay heat will evaporate most of the water anyway- Mark W.
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Personally I've been through some pretty deep water, Deeper than I care to admit, and I have never had any problems at all. That being said a snorkel is still on the lost.
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Snorkel Rec

I like the look of the AEV JK Snorkel with Air Ram or Pre-Filter for 07-11 Jeep« Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 3.8L V6 Engine

I would also get the AEV heat reduction hood as well.

It will run you about $1,100 but if will looks flippin sweet. I plan to do that down the road

AEV = Quality
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I've heard lots of horror stories on the forums and trails about hydrolocking JK's, and only seen one. Seen a few sputter from light splashes, too. The OEM airbox is pretty poorly sealed- if you seal up the holes in the bottom, it makes a big difference. Also, adding a splash shield (I ran a piece of plastic off of an old kitchen spatula!) helps. But I ultimately went with a snorkel. Because one popped motor costs a WHOLE lot more than the snorkel! Mark W.
duke which snorkel did you put on, and would you use the same one agaian? tks. steve
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The Chadwick story is one of my all-time favorites. I remember the first time I stumbled upon the story, I just couldn't stop reading.
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Steve- I run the River Raider snorkel. I love it. Looks killer, and aluminum means no rust I sprayed it with spray-on bedliner, and I love the look/texture. The only downside is that you have to relocate your radio antenna, which I still haven't done. Other than that, Kenny is a good guy- give him a buzz- Mark W.

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