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Old 11-07-2013, 04:52 PM   #1
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Snow and ice!

Anybody else notice the jeep handles horribly in winter conditions, running low psi on stock sport S tires. Their all season, but my rear end seems to be absolutely squirrelly on all winter road conditions, and god forbid I hit an incline on packed snow roads.. Back end loves to swing. Even at 60kmh 5th gear. 2 door sport S here.

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Old 11-07-2013, 04:59 PM   #2
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I suspect the stock tires are part of the problem. Look into some duratracs or other winter tires with the snowflake symbol.

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Nope. Even with stock non-siped KMs mine felt totally planted and better than my Subaru Legacy even in 2WD.

Looking forward to driving through some huge snow with my new Duratracs now
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I suspect going fast enough to need 5th gear on packed snow roads might be part of the problem.
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I suspect going fast enough to need 5th gear on packed snow roads might be part of the problem.
Please don't ever come drive in AK...
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Anybody else notice the jeep handles horribly in winter conditions, ... 2 door sport S here.
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Nope. Even with stock non-siped KMs mine felt totally planted ...
2-door vs. 4-door. Big difference in stability... as demonstrated by the two different experiences here...

Speed may be a problem for the OP, too. Slow the heck down!
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Back end comes out real easy with the SRAs in 2H. Even in the wet. But, it doesn't skip a beat in 4WD.
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Yikes, SR-A ratings on Tirerack place the SR-As even below the BFG KM MTs in ice, light and deep snow. Get rid of those things
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Please don't ever come drive in AK...
Wait I'm confused are you telling me not drive in Alaska or the guy i quoted? Lol
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Back end comes out real easy with the SRAs in 2H. Even in the wet. But, it doesn't skip a beat in 4WD.
This. Or, Duratracs or both.
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Nope. Even with stock non-siped KMs mine felt totally planted and better than my Subaru Legacy even in 2WD.

Looking forward to driving through some huge snow with my new Duratracs now
Those KMs are absolutely horrible on ice or packed snow. An outstanding mud tire, I've owned 3 sets. I hate seeing posts like this because I really think some folks are going to go out and not realize just how bad those stock KM's are in certain conditions.

As for the OP, ya know nothing is really good on the ice except studded snow tires or chains. You can get by with other choices, but don't kid yourself.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:16 PM   #12
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Those KMs are absolutely horrible on ice or packed snow. An outstanding mud tire, I've owned 3 sets. I hate seeing posts like this because I really think some folks are going to go out and not realize just how bad those stock KM's are in certain conditions.

As for the OP, ya know nothing is really good on the ice except studded snow tires or chains. You can get by with other choices, but don't kid yourself.
The KMs are terrible on ice/snow, this is pretty common knowledge. I was just saying "even with" those terrible tires it still felt decent and I survived a CO high-country winter with them. Have Duratracs this season though
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:24 PM   #13
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Just put on my brand new Studded Duratracs last night. Best of both worlds... well... at least til spring comes and I have to take them off again
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Last winter was my first w/ my JK, and it was the best winter (driving wise) I've had in years. I was completely stock w/ the P255/70R18 Bridgestone Dueler A/Ts, and I was very impressed. I upgraded to 33" DuraTracs a week ago. I expect my performance to be even better. I'm driving a 4 door and the longer wheel base makes a difference. My Jeep has changed my driving style a lot and that's helped as well.
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The KMs are terrible on ice/snow, this is pretty common knowledge. I was just saying "even with" those terrible tires it still felt decent and I survived a CO high-country winter with them. Have Duratracs this season though
No worries. Some folks swear their mud tires are the perfect winter tires, I am glad you clarified what you meant. I mean maybe I'm just getting old and fuddy-duddy-fied, but I always envision some 25 y/o going to pick up his Rubicon and thinking he can drive over a pass in a winter ice storm like Superman because he has such a kick-*ss ride.
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No worries. Some folks swear their mud tires are the perfect winter tires, I am glad you clarified what you meant. I mean maybe I'm just getting old and fuddy-duddy-fied, but I always envision some 25 y/o going to pick up his Rubicon and thinking he can drive over a pass in a winter ice storm like Superman because he has such a kick-*ss ride.
From my experience driving in the mountains, the biggest culprit are people with huge RAM trucks. They all drive like complete idiots in the snow. There is something about the RAM truck specifically that draws that kind of person, who knows
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From my experience driving in the mountains, the biggest culprit are people with huge RAM trucks. They all drive like complete idiots in the snow. There is something about the RAM truck specifically that draws that kind of person, who knows
YES. With the big stupid douchebag exhaust stacks. May as well fly a banner in the bed of your truck that screams "INADEQUATELY ENDOWED."
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I suspect going fast enough to need 5th gear on packed snow roads might be part of the problem.
5 th gear to reduce tourqe.. At 60kmh... That's not very fast on a 110kmh road. Even for conditions.
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Please don't ever come drive in AK...
Please don't ever come drive in Alberta.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:46 PM   #20
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Didn't see it mentioned so I will...2dr wranglers are a short wheelbase vehicle...and while great off road and in deep snow....you can not defeat physics in 2wd it will trade ends in a heartbeat....the idiot controls help but it still is possible for it to get out of line.

IMO slow down or use 4wd or get better tires...I went with Duratracs for my old TJ and when the tires need replaced on the JK and JKU I will be getting 2 more sets...THEY ARE THAT GOOD!!!
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Please don't ever come drive in Alberta.
Why not? Someone's got to get out and enjoy all that winter driving if you're too scared to... :-)
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:10 PM   #22
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Those KMs are absolutely horrible on ice or packed snow. An outstanding mud tire, I've owned 3 sets. I hate seeing posts like this because I really think some folks are going to go out and not realize just how bad those stock KM's are in certain conditions. As for the OP, ya know nothing is really good on the ice except studded snow tires or chains. You can get by with other choices, but don't kid yourself.
Too late. Almost drove my one week old Rubicon off the mountain side.
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YES. With the big stupid douchebag exhaust stacks. May as well fly a banner in the bed of your truck that screams "INADEQUATELY ENDOWED."
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My 2 door jk with 33" duratracs is planted. Haven't used 4hi on the road, and we got nearly 200 inches last winter. This is a absolute tank in the snow.
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My 2 door jk with 33" duratracs is planted. Haven't used 4hi on the road, and we got nearly 200 inches last winter. This is a absolute tank in the snow.
That's what I like to hear. As the new owner of a 2 door I was getting a little concerned.
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FYI sport s comes stock with Goodyear wranglers. Some of you should also read that this is KM/H not MPH. Added this isn't my first rodeo for a winter. Have some respect before you go bashing a poster who's looking for others who've shared similar experiences. Thanks.
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Get you a set of the Holy Grail of all tires and God's gift to Jeepers everywhere, the mighty Duratrac. Then go climb Mt. Everest in 2WD while laughing at all those fools with lesser tires. If some candy ass suggests getting real winter tires, you point to those Duratracs on all four corners while staring them down. They will then know the caliber of man they are dealing with
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Get you a set of the Holy Grail of all tires and God's gift to Jeepers everywhere, the mighty Duratrac. Then go climb Mt. Everest in 2WD while laughing at all those fools with lesser tires. If some candy ass suggests getting real winter tires, you point to those Duratracs on all four corners while staring them down. They will then know the caliber of man they are dealing with
Is it the fairy dust that goodyear puts in those duratracs? The ground up unicorn horn? Perhaps the blood of virgin elves? Will we ever really know?
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FYI sport s comes stock with Goodyear wranglers. Some of you should also read that this is KM/H not MPH. Added this isn't my first rodeo for a winter. Have some respect before you go bashing a poster who's looking for others who've shared similar experiences. Thanks.
Which wranglers? Goodyear wrangler duratrac? Goodyear wrangler AT? Good year wrangler ST? These are three completely different tires with the wrangler name.
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Old 11-08-2013, 03:52 AM   #30
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When I lived in a snowy climate thank god I don't anymore (Florida) I used to buy 3-4 bags of sand and put it in the back.of my Cj-7. Jeep is to light it can't be good in the snow. The sand really helped

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