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Old 11-20-2010, 11:26 AM   #31
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On the snow tire side...

Had blizzaks on an old sunbird up in northern ontario, the difference was like night and day. Most roads always had a base of snow, so without them a bunch of roads were impassable.

I keep hearing/reading the duratracs do really well in the snow, are they some what comparable to a blizzak?

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Old 11-20-2010, 11:43 AM   #32
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I just did a ton of research on this very topic for my new rubi, ended up that duratracs were definitely the way to go...haven't been able to try them in snow yet, but we are supposedly getting some snow this weekend, can't wait! But in the rain they have been noticeably better than stock, they just grip like crazy in slippery wet conditions.
I dealt with the same situation last month, was gonna get the duratracs but after alot of research i discovered that the duratracs are great for snow and any other conditions and thats why they are mountain snow flake winter rated but the rubber compound is not the same as a real winter dedicated tire therefore below 7 degrees the rubber hardens and becomes extremely slippery on wet icy and slushy conditions which dangerous as in winter yes there is snow but 80% of the time its only cold and wet icy road conditiond after they clean up the snow

Just for you to consider

My sources are from tirerack, i actually called them and thats what they explained me

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Old 11-20-2010, 11:46 AM   #33
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This Post by mistake please read above
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7 fer? or 7 celsius? I was wondering how the duratracs could remain flexible in the really cold stuff, and not affect wear when it gets warm. Just hadn't seen anything on that as I was reading, GoodYear really does seem to promote them as a winter tire...
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:28 PM   #35
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7 fer? or 7 celsius? I was wondering how the duratracs could remain flexible in the really cold stuff, and not affect wear when it gets warm. Just hadn't seen anything on that as I was reading, GoodYear really does seem to promote them as a winter tire...
7 degrees celcius

They promote them as all terrain all year round tires that are great in heavy deep snow not ice and wet cold, if the rubber compound was softer for better ice traction like real winter tires, they would wear out after one or two hot summers
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Old 11-20-2010, 03:28 PM   #36
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Ahh, right.
Yeah, 7 Celsius... that sucks :P

So if you're in Vancouver you're good to go....
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Old 11-20-2010, 09:41 PM   #37
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Here in montreal, at -40 celcius, were NOT good to go, we need the winter tires with soft rubber tires or else were screwed
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:23 PM   #38
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Take it from a Canadian, get snow tires!!!!!!!! Better handling, check! Peace of mind, yep! And in the end the cost is negligible if you swap them properly, your two sets will last twice as long.... But... If you don't buy an extra set of rims, your mount and balance costs will add up if ya have to swap them every time. The nokian hakkipiliita is the best winter tire on the market, then the blizzak

Hakkipiliita tires are the best, but definately pricey....My brother will only run Hakkis on his Range Rovers...they are phenomenal in the snow and ice, and can also be studded.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:30 PM   #39
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I have the stock wrangler sr/a - first jeep, havent seen snow yet. previous trucks, I always had BFG - KO all terrain tires. worked very well in all snow/ice - not real good in rain but ok.. / i dont know what I will end up with if I change these ?? Wrangler duratack - cooper/ or BFG ko/ or maybe Dick Cepek fun country.. ??? not sure myself .
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:30 PM   #40
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I live in the snowbelt of NW Pennsylvania, I drive daily into the Allegheny Mountains. Many hills, curves, springs running across roads and freezing, etc.

The only thing that I did, was to air down the BFG M/t's and slow down, especially on curves. The ESP works very well on JK's, and with good driving habits, you should be good.

I dropped the pressure to 25psi, I think. Just get a nice bulge in the tire so that ALL the tread and some of the side biters are in contact w/the road, this Jeep will do fine for you with those tires.
They did fine through an 11 inch snow and some smaller ones. Crawled up the hills with never a slip or slide. Thanks so much to everyone who commented.
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They did fine through an 11 inch snow and some smaller ones. Crawled up the hills with never a slip or slide. Thanks so much to everyone who commented.
I bet the JK with MTs did better than your camaro did with snows, even in RWD
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I'm also on the snow tire bandwagon. I have 3 s10's at my store. 2 of them are identical. 1 has blizzaks and 1 just regular cooper's. The one with the snow tires grips much better and has less wheel spin with out a question. Great investment. I try to keep that truck parked for the most part and only use it for bad weather driving so I dont wear the tires out early. The snow grooves and tread pattern are cool looking on the snow tires and you can see how they bite and clean at the same time. From what I understand you need snow on snow traction to a point and thats why MT's dont always cut it. I know auto parts not tires, but from buying a lot of tires lately i'm starting to catch on. Lots of options on tires and thought they may look the same or similar there are many differences in the technology behind the design and function.
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Lightbulb jeeps do in fact SUCK in the snow without the right equipment

Hey there, i did the same as you with the snow and took my chances. I DO NOT recommend doing that. I drive an '05 wrangler manual transmission, and keep in mind that i had just bought it same day, so this was a bummer. It was one of the last snows in april, (I live in Colorado and it snows for 8/12 months) and I was driving back to Glenwood over the pass and maybe going about 45 at the most and had 4wd, but someone was stopped ahead of me. I braked, and as you know braking in the winter is kind of a joke. Thankfully, i didn't hit the person ahead of me, but rather glided into the guard rail and the flare and the bumper took the brunt of the damage. With other cars, this would have been a much safer bet, i believe. That being said, I have heard that studded snow tires almost prevent slipping and sliding entirely (never say never) but my primary concern is for my safety. I've since fixed my jeep and she looks beautiful, shiny, red and badass, but im getting studded snow tires and these super awesome looking chains and I'm hoping to regain my confidence with driving in the snow.

here are the chains im saving up for

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Old 08-26-2014, 10:15 AM   #44
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I'm looking at Nokian tires, Blizzaks as second choice. On 16" steel wheels.

Can't beat dedicated winter tires on any vehicle if you get real snow.
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I'm looking at Nokian tires, Blizzaks as second choice. On 16" steel wheels.

Can't beat dedicated winter tires on any vehicle if you get real snow.
WoW! Pulled this one up from the grave!

Like a previous poster said...I'll x2 on the Nokian Hakkapeliitta snow tires. I had them in Canada and never had any issues in the snow! Some may disagree with me, but I'm also looking at the BF Goodrich Rugged Terrains for the winter. I put a set on my wife's '13 Ford Explorer and she never had any issues.
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:29 AM   #46
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....I discovered that the duratracs.....are mountain snow flake winter rated but the rubber compound is not the same as a real winter dedicated tire therefore below 7 degrees the rubber hardens and becomes extremely slippery on wet icy and slushy conditions...
While the dedicated snow-only tires are more flexible, the Duratracs did not harden and become slippery for me in sub zero temps in The Midwest nor my ventures to Canada the past 2 winters. Had to laugh at the "extremely slippery" part as I don't need 4wd on the snowy icy streets of Chiraq when running Duratracs. Sure Blizzaks would be somewhat better UNTIL the snow gets to be 6" deep or more then the Duratracs will be way better. During a blizzard I'll take Duratracs over any snow tire made for pavement.
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Get a cheap rim and have snow tires mounted.

If you never had dedicated snow tires before,, you will simply be amazed!

And its not just going,, its turning and stopping. Those mud tires you have might not cut it. Look at the thread blocks, how big they are. Then take a look at dedicated snow tires.

Its also how the rubber in the tire is made... Snow tires dont get hard like hockey pucks.

You really need to try them,,, then you will never be without an extra winter tire and rim set up.
what he said, if you can have studs on them, they will take you just about anyplace. I have Durteks on my Jeep and have a set of studded snow tires for winter.

any person who hasn't driven on modern snow tires they would be amazed when they do.
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Old 08-26-2014, 11:17 AM   #48
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Just another voice to those who are recommending dedicated snow tires; where I live they are a necessity and required by law.

However, as the OP was from Lawerence Kansas, it could suffice to have something like the Cooper Discoverer M+S or ST Maxx or a number of the 'other good ATs that have a lot of siping. But that is if, and only if, he is able to stay off the roads when windy and icy - otherwise I have to say dedicated severe winter rated snow tires.
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I'm in Canada too and have found that when it gets really down in the -30s that the snow tires really come into their own but then this is my first winter in a Jeep (unlimited) so I need to ask for some help to choose a proper tire. I was looking at the Cooper Discoverer winter and wondered if anyone has run these and what they thought of them: CooperTiresCanada - Discoverer M+S™

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