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Old 11-18-2010, 09:11 AM   #1
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snow tires for daily driver

My JK is my daily driver. It is an Islander, and came with the Mud Terrain TAs (LT255/75R17). I've been reading on this forum that they are no good for snow, so I'm looking for suggestions on the best snow tires to get. I have some very steep hills to negotiate to get to work. I'd like to keep the same "look" of the Mud Terrains, and still be able to climb hills in snow and ice. I'd also like to get plain wheels to go with them, so I can easily switch from summer tires to winter tires. Suggestions on brand, size and where to get them would sure be appreciated.

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Old 11-18-2010, 09:32 AM   #2
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driving in snow, depending on depth and consistency-can be done very well with your BFG's, sometimes a drop in air pressure might be the trick-but

The drivers ability can make all the diff. in the world, however-

If you've got to CLIMB HILLS in ICE, no tire will help you, you'll need studs/chains, ice doesn't care who made the tire-

Don't know if you've gota stick/auto, but the auto and ebrake can do A LOT !

Don't change tires, untill you're ready to go bigger or change wheels-add lift, but not just for snow-

Might not be a bad ide to get a set of studed tires, if your snow/icve is REALLY BAD !

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Old 11-18-2010, 09:38 AM   #3
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^What he said.^

I've driven snow covered roads since I was 14, starting in Chicago where snow is fairly serious. Even in passenger cars I never change tires, as long as they're in good condition. If you have worn tires you can use the pending snows as a reason to get new.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:03 AM   #4
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I wouldn't get rid of the BFG MT's....those are some of the best tires around.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:03 AM   #5
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I ran Blizzaks in 265/70/17 on my Mopar steelies. They got me through a nice, icy upstate NY winter last year with no problems- just drive smart, and you'll be fine- Mark W.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:18 PM   #6
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Get a cheap rim and have snow tires mounted.

If you never had dedicated snow tires before,, you will simply be amazed!

And its not just going,, its turning and stopping. Those mud tires you have might not cut it. Look at the thread blocks, how big they are. Then take a look at dedicated snow tires.

Its also how the rubber in the tire is made... Snow tires dont get hard like hockey pucks.

You really need to try them,,, then you will never be without an extra winter tire and rim set up.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:01 PM   #7
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I picked up five stock rims on craigs list for $175 and put dedicated snow tires on those. I used to run my trans am with all seasons since I was 16 so driving without snow tires can be done, but I prefer having dedicated snows.
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Throw a couple hundred pounds of sand in the back in sand bags. The weight on the tires will do wonders. That and if you get stuck, you can use the sand as a traction aid as well.
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Heh Heh, yea if you get stuck !!

Although it shouldn't happen if you've got an AUTO !

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Old 11-18-2010, 03:43 PM   #10
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i'll keep mentioning this where it comes up...

I have five stock 16" steel wheels off my 2007 JK for sale. They would be perfect for you yankees that want an extra set of rims for your snow tires.

i am not really advertising them at hard in the for sale section or craig's list. But I read threads like this and it reminds me that I need to get them out of my garage.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:02 PM   #11
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Well, thanks for all the suggestions. I had a Camaro years ago when I lived in the Chicago area and had a dedicated set of snows for it. Made a huge difference. Haven't had a set since. Wasn't worried about it until I started reading on this forum about how bad the Mud Terrains were on snow and ice. Last year I had a VW New Beetle that started sliding backwards down one of the hills I do each day. So, I got a Jeep, 6 speed manual. I really don't care for automatics. Greese, I'll keep your wheels in mind if I decide to change tires. Maybe I should just wait until the first snow and see what happens. Thanks, all, for your help.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:10 PM   #12
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I live in the snowbelt of NW Pennsylvania, I drive daily into the Allegheny Mountains. Many hills, curves, springs running across roads and freezing, etc.

The only thing that I did, was to air down the BFG M/t's and slow down, especially on curves. The ESP works very well on JK's, and with good driving habits, you should be good.

I dropped the pressure to 25psi, I think. Just get a nice bulge in the tire so that ALL the tread and some of the side biters are in contact w/the road, this Jeep will do fine for you with those tires.
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I live at a ski resort and everyone here runs Blizzaks for a dedicated winter tire or GY Duratracs for a year round tire.
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I live at a ski resort and everyone here runs Blizzaks for a dedicated winter tire or GY Duratracs for a year round tire.
x2 on the Blizzaks. I have them on both of my YJ plow jeeps, and my wife's TJ as dedicated snow tires for the lovely winter season here in NW PA. On my old J10 that I sold, I had a set of re-tread winter tires with studs in them for 8 years...and they are still in use on the old beast by the new owner and you can hear em coming with the studs clicking away...re-treads rocked!!
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Mud tires are really not perfect for snow, as someone said look at the mud tread versus a dedicated snow and you will see the vast difference. Mud tires are going to clean the snow out of the treads pretty well but the blocks / pattern are probably not going to grab too great in really tough situations.

Narrower tires will dig right down to the road surface better with the cost being reduced surface area. Wider tires will float on top with a lot of surface area but won't dig in and grab in most conditions.

Airing down for traction is a good idea in bad conditions, I wouldn't drive around all winter like that unless you are literally never going on the highway or on dry surfaces etc.

Sand in the back is a good old standby for traction but remember you are also stopping that extra 100 pounds each and every time you hit the brake. It's also an extra 100 pounds that wants to swing your ass end around to where you want the front end to be (those who've done it know what I mean).

Bottom line is you have 4wd, getting up and going is probably going to be less of a problem than say cornering, breaking, staying in your lane, little stuff like that.
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Not to hijack this thread, how are the stock Bridgestone Dulers that come on the 2010 Sahara in the snow ? Thanks
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I would say don't get a designated snow tire. If you off road at all thru mud don't get rid of the M/Ts either. If you only do dirt and gravel off roading you can ditch the MTs and get a good all terrain tire. You can try the Duratrac. That is excellent in the snow and ice. I just got the Yokohama geolandar A/T-S and I'll see my first snow/ice in them tomorrow when I go up to NH. Ill let you know how they work. My friend has them on his TJ and loves them. In a wrangler snow tires are overkill unless you live in Alaska or within 30 min of Canada. A good all terrain and some driving skills will get you through any winter. Mud tires shine in deep snow but on ice or thin snow they are not as good as all terrains and winter tires
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My friend had them on his and they were great in the snow. As long as you know how to drive in the snow almost any tire will get you where you want to go. Its always good to know your tires snow limits tho so at your first 4-6 inches go to an unplowed parking lot and just see how the jeep handles in 2x4 and 4x4. You are in a parking lot so if you spin out it's not a problem
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:33 PM   #19
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Take it from a Canadian, get snow tires!!!!!!!! Better handling, check! Peace of mind, yep! And in the end the cost is negligible if you swap them properly, your two sets will last twice as long.... But... If you don't buy an extra set of rims, your mount and balance costs will add up if ya have to swap them every time. The nokian hakkipiliita is the best winter tire on the market, then the blizzak
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Reminds me of this JKU snow video
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Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor are rated for severe winter weather.
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Yep, I'm with the 'dedicated snow tire' voices on this:
You'll only run them for a few months a year, so a set of snow tires will last you several seasons.
So, take the price for a set of, say, Blizzaks, divide that by 4 (you should get that many seasons out of them), then ask yourself if your safety and peace of mind in wintertime is worth that much.

THAT BEING SAID, I am running M/T's. Where I live, we rarely get more than 3 inches of snow at a time, and it's usually gone in a day or two. If I want good, deep, fun snow I have to go looking for it.
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Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor are rated for severe winter weather.
I had those on my TJ Unlimited... I loved those tires. They worked really well in the snow. Better than any other tire I have had.
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This'll be my third season. Thinking about rims and studded snows. Lots of hills in Western Mass. The idea is definitely appealing. And duke (mark) I am looking at Blizzarks. Do they accept studs? I wouldn't dedicate a set without studs.
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I just did a ton of research on this very topic for my new rubi, ended up that duratracs were definitely the way to go...haven't been able to try them in snow yet, but we are supposedly getting some snow this weekend, can't wait! But in the rain they have been noticeably better than stock, they just grip like crazy in slippery wet conditions.
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Ha ha ha! Yeah!
I love the custom paint too. Flames in the snow, pretty cool!
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Snow??? What is that?

Actually, I spent a year in Iceland and just used chains as required. The rest of the time, we had M+S rated tires on our GOV (government owned vehicles).
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My friend had them on his and they were great in the snow. As long as you know how to drive in the snow almost any tire will get you where you want to go. Its always good to know your tires snow limits tho so at your first 4-6 inches go to an unplowed parking lot and just see how the jeep handles in 2x4 and 4x4. You are in a parking lot so if you spin out it's not a problem
True. I'm just a bit concerned. I was driving a BMW with 20' sport wheels and couldn't drive it with 1 inch of snow on the road. When I switched them out with 17' snow's it was no problem.
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The Canadian a few posts up mentioned the best snow tires, but I've never seen those for sale in the states but heard great things about them. I'm running skinny Blizzaks and once you get past the fact that they are tiny (225) you will love these tires. it's worth getting them, they will last forever, even though they are a softer material because they are usually driven on wet or snow which is low wear. My other car has blizzaks and is going on it's 8th season with tons of tread left. I know it's past the time to get rid of the tires just due to age, but it's so hard to toss them when they have so much tread left.

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