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Old 07-26-2013, 11:05 AM   #31
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x2 about both the hitchhiker and the glock as carry weapon of choice
Thanks for not axe murdering the poor kid ... errrr or getting axed yourself. LOL, Where's the fear of the driver killing the hitchhiker? That's a thing in the movies too.

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Old 07-26-2013, 11:22 AM   #32
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I can well believe it. It suits all sorts of political and commercial agendas to have us living in fear of bogeymen, it makes it much easier to sell us ideas and products. Happy people who aren't scared of each other don't need to run to the warm, comforting embrace of political dogma and profiteering businesses in order to feel safe.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:46 AM   #33
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I can well believe it. It suits all sorts of political and commercial agendas to have us living in fear of bogeymen, it makes it much easier to sell us ideas and products. Happy people who aren't scared of each other don't need to run to the warm, comforting embrace of political dogma and profiteering businesses in order to feel safe.
We've gone from an innocuous hitchhiker story to black helicopter land.


So Haliburton is manufacturing hitchhiker murder stories for....???

I for one don't think anyone is competent enough for such a conspiracy. Try Occam's Razor.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:56 AM   #34
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We've gone from an innocuous hitchhiker story to black helicopter land.


So Haliburton is manufacturing hitchhiker murder stories for....???

I for one don't think anyone is competent enough for such a conspiracy. Try Occam's Razor.
I think we can all agree that the government (either side) is a joke. Now, back to important things like beer, bacon, chainsaws and jeeps.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:12 PM   #35
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I think we can all agree that the government (either side) is a joke. Now, back to important things like beer, bacon, chainsaws and jeeps.
Dude! Where are your priorities???? Seriously.
You make that list of important things? And you forget...

BOOBIES?


Now, we have listed all the important things.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:28 PM   #36
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We've gone from an innocuous hitchhiker story to black helicopter land.


So Haliburton is manufacturing hitchhiker murder stories for....???

I for one don't think anyone is competent enough for such a conspiracy. Try Occam's Razor.
That's not what I said. I said that we should be less afraid of other people and give them a chance to be good, as the vast majority of people inherently are.

If you don't believe that fear sells then that's your call, but people don't buy firearms and political rhetoric because they hear stories about nice hitchhikers who buy you lunch as thanks for the ride, or hardworking immigrants who sit outside your house for two hours after they have finished work because you forgot to close your front door, or who take a bus across town to return the wallet you left on the patio where they work. (All of these things have happened to me.)
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That's not what I said. I said that we should be less afraid of other people and give them a chance to be good, as the vast majority of people inherently are.
I agree.

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If you don't believe that fear sells then that's your call, but people don't buy firearms and political rhetoric because they hear stories about nice hitchhikers who buy you lunch as thanks for the ride, or hardworking immigrants who sit outside your house for two hours after they have finished work because you forgot to close your front door, or who take a bus across town to return the wallet you left on the patio where they work. (All of these things have happened to me.)
All emotions sell. Your stories don't receive widespread attention because of collusion with gun manufactures, politicians and news outlets, but because news outlets want to maximize viewership. "If it bleeds, it leads" isn't a news adage because that's what they want to publish. It's what the public WANTS (as evidence to us watching).

Like I said, Occam's Razor. It's easier and more profitable to react to market demand, than shape it.


Here's a bacon apple pie, as proof!


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Well, I guess I can be the a$$hole:

Humans are NOT inherently good. I go so far as to say the opposite is true. Humans, like any animal, are opportunistic. We are omnivorous predators by nature with a historical dependency on stealth, guile and deceit to gain advantage over our prey (whether that be a business competitor, the cross town little league team or enemy combatants). Look at the way we attempt to weave information asymmetry into pretty much EVERYTHING we do.

I've only been alive for 32 years, but I have witnessed people do some truly terrible things to one another simply because a.) they could and b.) they wanted to or were curious to see how it would turn out. An appreciation for law and order, values, respect for others - these things are learned/taught within a society or culture. I do not for a second think they are inherent to humans as a species.
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Well, I guess I can be the a$$hole:

Humans are NOT inherently good. I go so far as to say the opposite is true. Humans, like any animal, are opportunistic. We are omnivorous predators by nature with a historical dependency on stealth, guile and deceit to gain advantage over our prey (whether that be a business competitor, the cross town little league team or enemy combatants). Look at the way we attempt to weave information asymmetry into pretty much EVERYTHING we do.

I've only been alive for 32 years, but I have witnessed people do some truly terrible things to one another simply because a.) they could and b.) they wanted to or were curious to see how it would turn out. An appreciation for law and order, values, respect for others - these things are learned/taught within a society or culture. I do not for a second think they are inherent to humans as a species.
I agree and disagree. IMO the majority of how we become as people stems from parenting. Just as genetics may have something to do with it, so does how we are raised.

As Dave Matthews put it (so eloquently) even "Hitler came crying out of someone's vagina."

My dog is a evolved predator/carnivore that I lay with, his face mere inches from my face. He could attack me at any time, but he chooses not to. Just in the same way people can choose to do the right thing. And I believe most people do.

But the media is not filled with reports of "Woman pumps gas, nothing happens" headlines. We hear about the .000000001% likelihood stories, and the media makes it sound like a pattern or ongoing issue.

That, IMO is where the mindf**k happens. We only hear about the bad in people and it is amplified socially.
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I agree and disagree. IMO the majority of how we become as people stems from parenting. Just as genetics may have something to do with it, so does how we are raised.

As Dave Matthews put it (so eloquently) even "Hitler came crying out of someone's vagina."

My dog is a evolved predator/carnivore that I lay with, his face mere inches from my face. He could attack me at any time, but he chooses not to. Just in the same way people can choose to do the right thing. And I believe most people do.

But the media is not filled with reports of "Woman pumps gas, nothing happens" headlines. We hear about the .000000001% likelihood stories, and the media makes it sound like a pattern or ongoing issue.

That, IMO is where the mindf**k happens. We only hear about the bad in people and it is amplified socially.
I'm gonna have to disagree with your disagreement. People are inherently bad. I was on this forum but one day and was told by a member that my 4 door isn't a real jeep Just kidding. Anywho...I love bacon.
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Who the hell ever heard of a Russian snowboard team? Ever see a ruskee climbin the medals stand in an Olympics? Fail #1

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I agree and disagree. IMO the majority of how we become as people stems from parenting. Just as genetics may have something to do with it, so does how we are raised.

As Dave Matthews put it (so eloquently) even "Hitler came crying out of someone's vagina."

My dog is a evolved predator/carnivore that I lay with, his face mere inches from my face. He could attack me at any time, but he chooses not to. Just in the same way people can choose to do the right thing. And I believe most people do.

But the media is not filled with reports of "Woman pumps gas, nothing happens" headlines. We hear about the .000000001% likelihood stories, and the media makes it sound like a pattern or ongoing issue.

That, IMO is where the mindf**k happens. We only hear about the bad in people and it is amplified socially.
You took the words out of my mouth. Well said.

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I think I missed the part about where in the woods you buried the body...

Kidding, of course.

I meant, where in the desert?

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PS Totally honest: I am not sure if this post is on topic or not, haha.

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