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Old 01-15-2014, 10:13 PM   #1
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So Now that we Discussed Sliders Next Topic - Skid Plates and Under Armor

I am going down this weekend and just going to get the guys at 4 Wheel Parts take off my crushed steps - they really are a hazard on passenger side if anyone steps on them. I don't think I am taking any of my real work to them, but I don't think they can go far wrong just undoing a few bolts. I want these off before someone gets hurt, and they can fit me in quickly in and pretty cheaply too. I suspect if I had the right tools and a garage even I could figure out how to unbolt them for free-but I don't so I won't.

I have an off-road shop lined up that I think I will be taking my "real" work to. On the rails, I am still angling toward LOD with Rubi/Ace as a solid second - will see if I get any other recs from them and report back.

While I am disposing of disposable income and have the Jeep up, I think as suggested in the steps/rails/sliders post I will just go ahead and conquer some skids now. That transmission line is sort of beyond scarey.

Recs welcome for skids - is AEV the be all end all? Or are any just as good as the other? I know Mopar does skids too. WHo else? What are my other options? (As in my signature line, 2013 auto JKU). Do I need to think about upgrading the rear diff cover too, or is that capable of a good whack with the stock cover? Anywhere else I am very vulnerable? Most of my terrain will be rocks so I need stuff that can take good solid rock whacks and keep right on ticking.

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I personally highly recommend the Evo protek skids. Excellent protection, perfect fitment, and best of all, oil changes are still a breeze to do. Price is great as well. Another thing I love about them is the belly skid is redundant with the tranny skid, making the tranny literally impossible to hit.

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Here's a really good thread on your new topic...
JK Skid and Undercarriage Armor Options

I have the rock hard skids... but for what ever reason when I moved it from my 2011 to my current 2013... I couldn't get the bolts to line up at the frame cross over... so after several hrs I gave up and modified it to fit..
If yo go with the Rock Hard I would ask and make sure they know that you have a 2013 just in case there is a slight change....

as for diffs... the OEM diff cover is very thin and could be easily damaged if hit hard enough...
a lot of the after market diffs will hit the track bar while articulating.. this usually is fixed once the Jeep is lifted.
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I personally highly recommend the Evo protek skids. Excellent protection, perfect fitment, and best of all, oil changes are still a breeze to do. Price is great as well. Another thing I love about them is the belly skid is redundant with the tranny skid, making the tranny literally impossible to hit.

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Old 01-16-2014, 08:02 AM   #6
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I went the individual skid route. I have a RR front skid, Skid Row evap skid, Rancho oil pan skid, and ARB differential covers. Looking back on it, a full skid is much more cost effective.
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That's what i got under my jeep and it is holding up fine and easy access for oil changes
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Thanks! Will see if anyone else chimes in. EVO are the ones I meant in my first post that I had heard.of All the letters sort of came out wrong tho lol unless AEV makes them too.

So far there is Rock Hard, Rancho, ARB and EVO. And that I should also deal with the rear diff.

I will read the linked post in a few as I gotta get ready for work soon.
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x2! A bit of a bear to install on your back with the Jeep just on two jack stands but well worth it.
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I personally highly recommend the Evo protek skids. Excellent protection, perfect fitment, and best of all, oil changes are still a breeze to do. Price is great as well. Another thing I love about them is the belly skid is redundant with the tranny skid, making the tranny literally impossible to hit.

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See, I am not too sure about using the lower engine block as a mounting point for the skid. Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sit too well for my liking. I just picture me coming down hard on a rock, and a third of the stress falling on the block itself. Sure, you are rather protected on punctures, but I don't know about the stress factor there. This is the only reason I haven't purchased this skid. I love everything else about it, but can't get over that point...
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x2! A bit of a bear to install on your back with the Jeep just on two jack stands but well worth it.
I agree. I helped install one. It was also like doing a giant upside down jigsaw puzzle.
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Another vote for the Rock Hard skid. I have come down on many a rock with nothing more than scratches on it. It's durable as all h**l and offers a lot of protection.
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I went with tntcustoms complete belly armor. Covers pretty much everything.

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I agree. I helped install one. It was also like doing a giant upside down jigsaw puzzle.
Did you use a tranny jack or just manhandle it into place?

Pulling and reinstalling a C6 with the transfer case attached pi$$ed me off a few years ago so I went ahead & bit the bullet & got one. Wish I had done it years ago now.
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See, I am not too sure about using the lower engine block as a mounting point for the skid. Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sit too well for my liking. I just picture me coming down hard on a rock, and a third of the stress falling on the block itself. Sure, you are rather protected on punctures, but I don't know about the stress factor there. This is the only reason I haven't purchased this skid. I love everything else about it, but can't get over that point...
Huh? Where do you see the evo skids using the lower engine block? They use the frame and the crossmember.
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see, i am not too sure about using the lower engine block as a mounting point for the skid. Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sit too well for my liking. I just picture me coming down hard on a rock, and a third of the stress falling on the block itself. Sure, you are rather protected on punctures, but i don't know about the stress factor there. This is the only reason i haven't purchased this skid. I love everything else about it, but can't get over that point...
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I personally highly recommend the Evo protek skids. Excellent protection, perfect fitment, and best of all, oil changes are still a breeze to do. Price is great as well. Another thing I love about them is the belly skid is redundant with the tranny skid, making the tranny literally impossible to hit.

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Huh? Where do you see the evo skids using the lower engine block? They use the frame and the crossmember.
Maybe I'm missing something, and have been for a while, but it sure looks bolted to the oil pan here:

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you are correct. it goes on over the oil pan. just like the rancho one.

this is okay because if needed the block can take the hit. but you RARELY hit this area because it will be substantially higher than other skids because of how it mounts.
my crossmemeber skid is bashed to hell and is holding up great. the other two have never been scuffed.

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Did you use a tranny jack or just manhandle it into place?

Pulling and reinstalling a C6 with the transfer case attached pi$$ed me off a few years ago so I went ahead & bit the bullet & got one. Wish I had done it years ago now.
Manhandled it.

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I see Brian d concern... any large impact does go into the oil pan/engine block.
I would rather that go into a skid and get transferred across and up into engine mount pts...etc.
I did pick the Hard Rock skid based off that reasoning...

probably minor differences...

at this point 3 yrs of owning it... it's been nice to have.
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Maybe I'm missing something, and have been for a while, but it sure looks bolted to the oil pan here:

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Thats the oil pan skid. It gets bolted to the oil pan using ALL the bolts and is basically covers the oil pan perfectly. most oil skids that bolt under the oil pan can still buckle, puncturing the oil pan and grenading your motor. This is a stronger solution as it essentially doubles the tickness of your oil pan, making it MUCH more difficult to puncture. It is also higher up than most other skids, making a hit less probable. I was confused when you said it was bolted to the engine block.
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X4 on the EVO oil pan skid I also AEV skid on rear Diff.

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I suggest replacing the thin diff covers with Solid covers. Very strong and not as expensive as most.
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Thats the oil pan skid. It gets bolted to the oil pan using ALL the bolts and is basically covers the oil pan perfectly. most oil skids that bolt under the oil pan can still buckle, puncturing the oil pan and grenading your motor. This is a stronger solution as it essentially doubles the tickness of your oil pan, making it MUCH more difficult to puncture. It is also higher up than most other skids, making a hit less probable. I was confused when you said it was bolted to the engine block.
Yeah that's what I meant. I guess I shouldn't worry about it as much as I do. I do have another question. What about the movement of the motor. We all know that a motor is not Ridgely mounted in the bay, so what effect does the skid have on that movement? Geeze I over think things.
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Yeah that's what I meant. I guess I shouldn't worry about it as much as I do. I do have another question. What about the movement of the motor. We all know that a motor is not Ridgely mounted in the bay, so what effect does the skid have on that movement? Geeze I over think things.
You will have no issues with the motor mounts flexing and the skids. I've been running mine on 2 rigs already without any issues. I did have to modify the tranny skid to accommodate my AFE Y pipe though.
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You will have no issues with the motor mounts flexing and the skids. I've been running mine on 2 rigs already without any issues. I did have to modify the tranny skid to accommodate my AFE Y pipe though.
Copy that. I will give this skid a second thought now. I guess it would help to see one in real life and if I had a cookie.
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I went with the full River Raider set. Everyone will tell you how expensive it is, but when considering the coverage & pricing it out individually it was cheaper. Plus Jason at Krawl got me a much better price than what they list. They are bad ass - I don't worry about a thing. I did have to modify the evap skid to fit, I'd assume they've fixed it since I bought them in 2011 for my '12. It does rattle a tiny bit - I think it's the exhaust but don't care enough to bother. Click image for larger version

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I also went with SOLID diff covers. Way cheaper than anything else out there, just as strong but not nearly as cool looking as say the poison spyder ones!

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I did the EVO weld on LCA & shock mount skids, front & back. I wanted weld on & they are good but I did drill a hole on the rears because they tend to hold water.

I know, wrong thread, but if I knew the wheeling I was gonna do I wouldn't have gone with the ace rails. They will be replaced eventually with something much sturdier - not mounted with the 2 body mount bolts. As much as Ace says you can high lift off them - its crap. It's fine with the rubi rails, but on my old jeep they ended up messing up the pinch seam. Torqued to spec & all. With the rubi rails it doesnt matter because they protect the pinch seam.

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I went with the Synergy full skid system, Poison Spyder Bombshell diff covers and added a Rock Hard exhaust skid. The Synergy was a recommendation from the shop that does all my work, they are built here locally and I have their lift so I was all for supporting the local business.

My husbands TJ has a Genright gas skid and I think Skid Row for the oil skid. They've taken a good beating pretty well.

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