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Old 08-06-2014, 01:36 PM   #1
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So, you don't have a spare...why not?

I have seen these jeeps on the road enough times to cause me to ask the question. Why do jeepers take off their spare tire from the tailgate? It doesn't make sense to me. Am I missing something? Especially when going off-roading, for those that have no spare tire what is your reasoning?

Not enough mulah to buy the fifth tire? Too much weight in the back? Confidence in current tires? Magical force field around your jeep? Filled with magical air that will never leak out?

Please enlighten me, I'm quite confused.

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Old 08-06-2014, 01:37 PM   #2
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Because they are easy to steal.

and don't even think about one of those goofy lugnut locks (dumbest idea ever) Duh, tighten the other two and hand spin the locking one off. Tire/wheel fairy just visited for 15 seconds and drove away with your spare.

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Old 08-06-2014, 01:38 PM   #3
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I would also like to know.
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From what I've seen, it's usually a mixture of "can't afford all 5" and "magical force field around the Jeep"
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Because they are easy to steal.
Good point there, too. Although, a set of wheel locks for a Jeep will usually come with 5 locks- one for each wheel including the spare.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:41 PM   #6
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Good point there, too. Although, a set of wheel locks for a Jeep will usually come with 5 locks- one for each wheel including the spare.
I had an added comment about just that (before I read yours so no offense)
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:44 PM   #7
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I have been driving for 21 years and in those 21 years I have had 3 tires blow out on the road. I have road side assistance so if I do blow out a tire and I don't have my spare with me I can get towed to either my house or the nearest tire repair place. Yes it would be inconvenient but the odds are in your favor when it comes to blow outs. I always carry a spare when offroading though. A couple reasons. One is I don't like to make people wait while I repair a tire if I can simply change it. Second reason is sometimes a blow out on a trail cannot be fixed no matter how many plugs you have.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:50 PM   #8
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Personally an added benefit of the Jeep spare - I'll put anything I can get between Me and the idiot behind me with one hand texting and the other picking his/her nose by way of their anus.
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I don't get it either, especially on a Jeep. Having a full size spare at an easy to access location makes it so convenient to get yourself going in the case of a flat. Screw getting towed by roadside assistance, that'll be a 4+ hour ordeal by time you get back on the road.
For theft, I ran a thick cable lock through the wheel and to the frame of my tire carrier along with wheel locks.
Not to mention, it looks awesome.
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Old 08-06-2014, 02:24 PM   #10
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There is a company that makes a lock that fits over the lug nut that requires a key to remove. I can't remember the company.

The lock half goes around the lug, the nut goes on, and the top locks on top of it.
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Old 08-06-2014, 02:31 PM   #11
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From what I've been told, those that roll without a spare carrier just depend on roadside assistance and throw their spare in the back whenever they go offroad. It reduces weight, improves rear visibility, eliminates the chance of it getting stolen/damaged, and improves gas milage. All of that being said, I still roll with a spare. I'd rather change my tire than call for a tow truck any day of the week.
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gentlemen,

Thanks for the super quick responses. I just needed to make sure I wasn't missing anything. I'd rather make an informed decision then be a lemming and jump off the cliff with everyone else just because, "everyone else is doing it."

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gentlemen,

Thanks for the super quick responses. I just needed to make sure I wasn't missing anything. I'd rather make an informed decision then be a lemming and jump off the cliff with everyone else just because, "everyone else is doing it."

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I've seen a handful of Jeeps without the spare tire but I'll never remove it because my moms Jeep has been hit twice by idiots rear ending her and both times it could've been alot worse had the tire not been there.
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Old 08-06-2014, 02:46 PM   #15
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I've seen spare tires, even ones caged, punch right through the back window of hardtops. It's easier for the caged ones to destroy a rear window because the bottom bar decreases departure angle. Rear window destruction is most likely on the bottom of the list for why, but it happens.
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:14 PM   #16
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Only times I have rolled without #5 was when I had to take it off, for some reason, and was just too lazy to put it back on right away....usually goes back on within a few days though. If you don't have it...you will probably need it!
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My YJ was rearended by a guy driving a small pickup who was looking at the blond on the corner. I looked at her too, but I also saw the red flashing lights light up on the school bus in front of me. We were turning a corner and his left front fender hit my spare. No damage to my tire or tailgate but his fender was partially wrapped around his front tire and crumpled almost to his windshield.
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:42 PM   #19
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One of the reasons I haven't upgraded from my 2002 911 Turbo is that after 2005 they started shipping the 911s with a can of fix-a-flat and a tiny compressor, but no spare. .

I haven't needed many spares in my life, but when I need them, I need them. And on a Jeep I've needed them more than any other vehicle, for whatever reason. No way I'm leaving it at home. Especially since it looks kinda nasty back there without the wheel installed. Just sayin'...
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Old 08-06-2014, 04:07 PM   #20
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I currently dont have one one....

1) $$ on a spare tire (wheel if you got those too) and a tire carrier was too tight at the time
2) I like the look
3) Most Jeepers roll with some kind of OBA and a repair kit and fix-a-flat will work just fine in most cases
4) I like to 5 tire rotate... and once I skip the 5th for too long, the wear on the other 3 (from a 4 tire rotation) is too much for my taste and makes it useless anyhow

Now... why I will be eventually getting one (either after going to 37's next year or super immediately if funds free up)

1) I like the look (yup, both ways)
2) I will be getting a tire carrier and spare as I do see its usefulness
3) 5 tire rotations are great insurance
4) I wouldnt trust wheeling after using a repair kit
5) once the wear is low enough any flat would require buying another full set rather than rotating in the one spare and dealing with it at that point
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Old 08-06-2014, 04:18 PM   #21
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I will NEVER go without a spare in a vehicle again. Here's why:

Once upon a time, I owned a 2007 Shelby GT500. It came with no spare, and only a can of fix-a-flat and a compressor in the spare well. One very hot late-June Sunday, I went to a car show with it. Late that afternoon on the trip home (on a remote highway with little traffic, I might add) I lost the right rear tire in a catastrophic failure (my guess is it was sudden ply separation at the sidewall). I herded it to a stop in a cloud of rubber dust and smoke thinking, "I have no f*cking spare." To make a long story short, I'm thankful for cell phones and a friend who happened to have a stack of old tires and wheels. Several sunburned (and grouchy) hours later and I was home.

I recently picked up a 2009 Bullitt GT, which also has no spare. Guess what it's getting before it ever goes on any trip?
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One of the reasons I haven't upgraded from my 2002 911 Turbo is that after 2005 they started shipping the 911s with a can of fix-a-flat and a tiny compressor, but no spare. .

I haven't needed many spares in my life, but when I need them, I need them. And on a Jeep I've needed them more than any other vehicle, for whatever reason. No way I'm leaving it at home. Especially since it looks kinda nasty back there without the wheel installed. Just sayin'...
Rolling with no spare is like just "running out for a minute" without a carry gun. That's tempting fate that you'll need it when you don't have it. To each his own, but I would rather have it and not need it than vice-versa.
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Old 08-06-2014, 04:28 PM   #23
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Two of my cars don't have a spare tire.

One came with a can of fix a flat. The other came with runflats. The one with runflats also has free roadside assistance. When the runflats wear out I'll swap them for traditional tires.

I've made 1300 mile trips without a spare in other vehicles and it didn't make me worry at all. (and this is in Texas where there is lots and lots of nothing between cities.) Still not a concern in my mind. Pay attention to tire pressures and tire failures will be an extremely rare occurrence (on road).

Having said all that: I can't justify not running a spare on the Jeep. Something in my head says it's wrong. The Jeep has a real spare, it will always have a real spare. Enjoy the double negative.

I 100% agree with American Jeeper. A Spare and a Carry gun have a lot in common. Of course I can't carry at work (legally)...so I'm "naked" sometimes...That's a decision a person has to make for themselves and probably a topic for another thread.
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I do a 5 tire rotation and keep my spare with me. Now, its heavy being a 33x12.5x15. Thats where the trouble comes in. After four years running a spare back there, the tailgate hinges are shot. They wiggle like hell and I have to strap the tire with a ratchet strap on the trails because the banging of the heavy tire on whopped out hinges drives me crazy. I need a $450 rear bumper with a tire carrier to take the weight off before I invest in new hinges.

That being said, I won't hit the trails without a spare. If its on the carrier, I strap it to stop the shaking. If its just the wife and I, we fold the back seat down, set the tire inside and strap it down to anchor points w/a strap incase we tip or roll it won't kill us in the front.
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I don't carry a spare daily as I run E rated 35s so flats are simply a non issue as a DD. Spare is too heavy for the tailgate so it sits in the garage until it's time to rotate. On wheeling trips the spare is strapped down in the back. There is simply no point in carrying all that extra weight running back and forth to town.

On occasion I do run the factory wheels and tires in which case the spare stays in the Jeep all the time. Factory carrier is gone.
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I have had several blow outs while driving in the middle of no where on interstates. I just got out and put on the spare and went on my way. I cannot imagine having to just sit there for hours until I could either get someone to come get me to take the wheel to a shop to get a new tire or spend hundreds on a tow truck and then hundreds more for a new tire. I would NEVER leave home without a spare. A can of Fix a Flat will do no good when your tire is in shreds.
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My spare is mounted also. Another possible reason why some don't is the increased visibility out of the rearview mirror without the spare.
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Because they are easy to steal.

and don't even think about one of those goofy lugnut locks (dumbest idea ever) Duh, tighten the other two and hand spin the locking one off. Tire/wheel fairy just visited for 15 seconds and drove away with your spare.

to be fair you could get all locking..

that said i like the look of off better.. sure some would agree
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to be fair you could get all locking.. that said i like the look of off better.. sure some would agree
Except there is a special socket that will easily take off any of these locking lugs.
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I was thinking the other day - I wonder how many people are rolling around with a lift and a 35 inch spare... and the factory jack.

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