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Old 03-12-2014, 10:25 PM   #181
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Yup that's it
Now I'm sure jeep sent me wrong hardware (plastic) door components I have 4 in the box and on that jeep there are only 2 1 each side for the doors even says jku on the box
That's why I am confused with this set up
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I don't think it's been mentioned so if it has, forgive me for missing it.... is the head room the same with the dual tops on the 2012 JKU? I'm 6'4" and have lots of room with the hard top. I want to be sure that won't be an issue before I drive 3 hours to where I'm going to store my top for the summer.
I have a 2-door, but I'm 6'3". I haven't noticed any difference in headroom between the hardtop and the soft top. I have plenty of room in both cases with a 2-door.

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Even better. Then I can say from experience that it will improve. It's never taken me more than 5-10 min to put the top up or down, once you've got the process down.

Here's what works best for me (warm or cold):

Lift the top and frame up towards the front (best to have help with this but it can be done alone with practice and due care) until the side bows click into the clips of each door surround (the clips that retain it for the sunrider feature).

Open the header clips and hook to the windshield mounts but do not latch closed as this will put too much tension on the top and make it difficult to get the rear corners under the body roll.

Pull the rear corners down gently and secure into body roll. When warm this should be easy. When cold, you may need to apply some gentle pressure onto the rear bow with one hand while securing the rear corner with the other. Repeat for other side.

Install side windows, starting by clipping into door surround, then start zipper toward rear. (Make sure that the door surround retaining channels, the plastic pieces that snap into the top of the door surround from the top, are pulled out from under the top fabric but NOT clipped in place yet).

Latch the header down securely.

Complete the side window install by closing the zipper down to the body, covering with the flaps and then snapping the top into the door surround. (On each side).

Install the rear window. This should be a snap now that the rest of the top is up and under tension.

If you're having trouble getting the rear bar into the body clips, roll them into place, then close the zipper from one side to the other. If cold, gentle down pressure on the rear bow will help get the zipper started across the top.

I'm sure everyone has their own way of doing it, but that's worked best for me, warm or cold, even alone and a downpour. lol

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Old 03-13-2014, 06:52 AM   #184
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Good post! It definitely helps to clip the front latches, but not clamp them down until you're done.

You can also monkey with the latches a bit if you need a bit more reach out of the hook... just try it and you'll see what I mean. I was confused at first because I needed about another inch, but pulling on the hook part caused it to yield that inch
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Thanks, colder! We all appreciate the feedback on the instructions!

ONE of these days spring is going to come to Texas and I AM going to learn how to open my soft top!
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Old 03-13-2014, 10:12 AM   #186
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MSRP for a brand new OEM premium top including all hardware for a 4-door is $1895. As far as the craigslist price, others will have to chime in
I just bought a Premium 4-door OEM top yesterday for $900. It's brand new, factory sealed (it came with the dual top group for a 2013 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon). I came in at $800, he countered with $950, and we settled on $900.

There's a guy selling one on Ebay for $1525 + $75 for shipping. I think he might be hard pressed to get $1600 total for it, but that's just me. Here's the link:

Brand New Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Premium Soft Top – Never Used | eBay

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I have a 2-door, but I'm 6'3". I haven't noticed any difference in headroom between the hardtop and the soft top. I have plenty of room in both cases with a 2-door.
Thanks, colder. I was hoping there wouldn't be much difference. The shape of the hard top provides a great amount of head room. As long as there isn't much of a loss with the soft top, I should be ok. Just didn't want to drive 3 hours to my parents' home, have a friend help me remove the hard top and then install the soft top just to find out that it wasn't going to work for me.
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Thanks, colder. I was hoping there wouldn't be much difference. The shape of the hard top provides a great amount of head room. As long as there isn't much of a loss with the soft top, I should be ok. Just didn't want to drive 3 hours to my parents' home, have a friend help me remove the hard top and then install the soft top just to find out that it wasn't going to work for me.
We have a 2013 hard top on Mike's jeep and I have a soft top on my 2014. Mike is 6'3", and he hasn't had any issues with headroom. I think it's comparable looking over at him when he's driving either jeep.
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Thanks, Star... good to know.
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Ok resident soft top experts, I found this top locally but the seller doesn't know if it includes all the hardware since he's never installed it and I don't yet know enough to know for sure. From the looks of it, it has everything minus 1 tailgate retainer bracket. Does everything look like it's there to you guys? Worth making an offer on? Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Soft Top
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Old 03-13-2014, 11:50 AM   #191
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I'm leaning towards a Trektop NX, but not in a rush so I'm watching craigslist for new OEM take offs just in case I can snag a deal.

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And if buying second hand(Craigslist, ebay, etc.) especially is it was a dual top option; make sure you get the rollbar brackets(photo).
I found a 2012 new take off for $500, but it's a couple hrs away. The lady doesn't seem to be too knowledgeable, so I wanted to check if there was anything else that comes installed on the jeep other than the rollbar brackets that I should be asking about??
I still don't have a clear answer if the surrounds are there either. Do these usually come in a separate box with the dual top?

I asked if it was the Premium or Standard and she just said it was Premium, but I'm not sure she knows the difference. She keeps saying it's the one that comes with the Arctic Edition, which I'm pretty sure is just the same as Dual Top option (standard). Any one know if Arctic comes with Premium? I'm happy with standard for $500 anyway, premium would just be a score at that price though!
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I'm leaning towards a Trektop NX, but not in a rush so I'm watching craigslist for new OEM take offs just in case I can snag a deal.



I found a 2012 new take off for $500, but it's a couple hrs away. The lady doesn't seem to be too knowledgeable, so I wanted to check if there was anything else that comes installed on the jeep other than the rollbar brackets that I should be asking about??
I still don't have a clear answer if the surrounds are there either. Do these usually come in a separate box with the dual top?

I asked if it was the Premium or Standard and she just said it was Premium, but I'm not sure she knows the difference. She keeps saying it's the one that comes with the Arctic Edition, which I'm pretty sure is just the same as Dual Top option (standard). Any one know if Arctic comes with Premium? I'm happy with standard for $500 anyway, premium would just be a score at that price though!
2013 was the first year of the Premium.

Yes, you'll need the roll bar brackets. Yes, the surrounds come in a box, as do the windows if she never had them installed.
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Ok resident soft top experts, I found this top locally but the seller doesn't know if it includes all the hardware since he's never installed it and I don't yet know enough to know for sure. From the looks of it, it has everything minus 1 tailgate retainer bracket. Does everything look like it's there to you guys? Worth making an offer on? Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Soft Top
Definitely missing one tailgate bar bracket.

I also don't see the roll bar brackets and screws. There should be a pair of those brackets and then 4 screws (a pair of two different type of screws).
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Definitely missing one tailgate bar bracket.

I also don't see the roll bar brackets and screws. There should be a pair of those brackets and then 4 screws (a pair of two different type of screws).
*They could still be attached to the frame (brackets) but we can't see because of the sailcloth is covering the frame in the pic.
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I'm leaning towards a Trektop NX, but not in a rush so I'm watching craigslist for new OEM take offs just in case I can snag a deal.
Just saw this NX today for a JKU - pretty nice deal. If I didn't just buy a Premium, I would've picked this one up. In Reno, though:

Bestop Trektop NX in Black - 07-14 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Soft Top
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Just saw this NX today for a JKU - pretty nice deal. If I didn't just buy a Premium, I would've picked this one up. In Reno, though:

Bestop Trektop NX in Black - 07-14 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Soft Top
Yes, that is an excellent deal. Just not sure if he would ship it to me. I could ask I guess. He said OBO. It kind of worries me that there are no actual pictures in the add either.

I just emailed the lady about the OEM top to make sure it has surrounds in a box and brackets. I found out she is moving to east coast and doesn't want to pack it. So....bet I can talk her down, especially when I tell here it's not a Premium top!
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Old 03-13-2014, 09:28 PM   #197
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Hey guys, be sure to check the zippers on your soft tops. I purchased my jk a month ago a found a zipper on the passenger floor board. Didn't think much of it at the time. Long story short was going to take the top off last weekend and found where I was missing a zipper.
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Note to anyone else, check your zippers if buying new...no pun intended.
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I had asked a bit back but didn't see that anyone answered...I just purchased a soft top and it has all the hardware minus the screws (MOPAR® M6 x 1.25" Round Head Screw) that attach the bracket to the roll bar. I would imagine you could find a similar/same sized screw to work...is that correct? 6 bucks a screw is nuts to me....
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Thanks. That's what I assumed and not really sure why I had to ask...pretty common sense there
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Could a moderator delete my post #146?

I want to re-write it because I have more information including more part numbers now, so I could make a post that is more complete, and I don't want to confuse anyone with two different posts. I've already copied it down to my computer so we can just delete it, and I'll post the follow-up when I'm able.
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Could a moderator delete my post #146?

I want to re-write it because I have more information including more part numbers now, so I could make a post that is more complete, and I don't want to confuse anyone with two different posts. I've already copied it down to my computer so we can just delete it, and I'll post the follow-up when I'm able.
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I had asked a bit back but didn't see that anyone answered...I just purchased a soft top and it has all the hardware minus the screws (MOPAR® M6 x 1.25" Round Head Screw) that attach the bracket to the roll bar. I would imagine you could find a similar/same sized screw to work...is that correct? 6 bucks a screw is nuts to me....
This morning, I purchased four 6MM X 16MM bolts from Home Depot. Attached are some pics. Total cost for all 4 bolts was exactly $2.12. No need to pay the crazy Mopar price!

I suppose you could also go with 6MM X 20MM or even 6MM X 25MM, but the 16MM length is just fine.

Also, these are Allen Wrench type bolts, not Hex type bolts, which it perfectly fine, too.

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I am looking to find a soft top that won't break the bank too much. This is going to be my first soft top as I bought my 2014 JKU with a hardtop. I plan on switching out my tops between the seasons; soft top - Spring/Summer, hard top - Late Fall/Winter. The Bestop Trektop NX seems to be the way to go after reading multiple reviews but I wanted to see what you guys have to say about it before I make this purchase. And I also want a top that isn't too difficult to install (maybe 15-20 min installation).

If there are any other tops out there that you would recommend I would love to hear that also!

Bestop Trektop NX Soft Top with Tinted Side & Rear Windows, Doors Not Included - Black Diamond - 56823-35

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This morning, I purchased four 6MM X 16MM bolts from Home Depot. Attached are some pics. Total cost for all 4 bolts was exactly $2.12. No need to pay the crazy Mopar price! I suppose you could also go with 6MM X 20MM or even 6MM X 25MM, but the 16MM length is just fine. Also, these are Allen Wrench type bolts, not Hex type bolts, which it perfectly fine, too. Hope this helps!
Perfect. Thanks!
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Well, finally was able to attempt to install the Premium on a 2009 JKUX. Let's just say it was a battle, which I prevailed, but haven't won the war yet (still need to install the windows). Got a little too cold too even consider trying. Getting the sailcloth stretched from the front to the rear was like wrestling a dragon covered in baby oil...eh.

I'll do a more thorough report later, including a few little tips that helped.

My immediate feedback; find a friend to help, I didn't and it was hard.
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Here's a straight side view of the Trektop NX on my 2 door showing the angle of the slanted fastback window. We see lots of these on 4 doors but not as many on 2 doors. Pics a little dark but works ok to show how it changes the profile of the JK, I think for the better.



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Here's a straight side view of the Trektop NX on my 2 door showing the angle of the slanted fastback window. We see lots of these on 4 doors but not as many on 2 doors. Pics a little dark but works ok to show how it changes the profile of the JK, I think for the better.



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Here's a straight side view of the Trektop NX on my 2 door showing the angle of the slanted fastback window. We see lots of these on 4 doors but not as many on 2 doors. Pics a little dark but works ok to show how it changes the profile of the JK, I think for the better.



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<snip> ... a battle, which I prevailed, but haven't won the war yet (still need to install the windows).
Suggestion, before you install windows, since it sounds like this top may have been sitting around awhile: lightly coat the zippers with a plastic-safe lube, something like Superlube or the Mopar stuff. It will make it a lot easier to close new zippers if they are not dry, especially around the curves.

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Got a little too cold too even consider trying. Getting the sailcloth stretched from the front to the rear was like wrestling a dragon covered in baby oil...eh.
You are one intrepid Jeeper! Can't believe you did this in Tahoe this time of year. Hope it was at least a sunny day!

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My immediate feedback; find a friend to help, I didn't and it was hard.
Good advice! I did mine solo too. From the unassembled kit. Definitely agree on having a patient helper.

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